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Post by witchfinder on May 25, 2024 12:10:35 GMT
The mass resignation has nothing to do with "suspending democracy" when Sunak was appointed Tory Leader. It has everything to do with the Johnson, Truss and Sunak eroding any faith the electorate had left in tired, oft discredited, Tory tropes. All The Best The people who have lost faith are Tory supporters who have decamped in increasing numbers to Reform or None of the Above. They certainly have not flocked to Labour who have actually lost support since Sunak became PM. Seems that One Nation wet Toryism is not a vote winner. When Labour began to rise sharply in the polls in 2022, the polling organisation Electoral Calculous produced a chart based on their own findings and on other data as to where voters were migrating. For every 15 votes which were moving from the Conservatives, 7 of those votes were going to Labour, 4 to Not Voting, 3 to Reform and 1 to the Lib Dems. |
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Post by zanygame on May 25, 2024 14:25:47 GMT
The people who have lost faith are Tory supporters who have decamped in increasing numbers to Reform or None of the Above. They certainly have not flocked to Labour who have actually lost support since Sunak became PM. Seems that One Nation wet Toryism is not a vote winner. When Labour began to rise sharply in the polls in 2022, the polling organisation Electoral Calculous produced a chart based on their own findings and on other data as to where voters were migrating. For every 15 votes which were moving from the Conservatives, 7 of those votes were going to Labour, 4 to Not Voting, 3 to Reform and 1 to the Lib Dems. Interesting, but not surprising. There are very many non died in the wool Tory voters who switch between the two leading parties to try and maintain the centre ground. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 25, 2024 17:02:32 GMT
The people who have lost faith are Tory supporters who have decamped in increasing numbers to Reform or None of the Above. They certainly have not flocked to Labour who have actually lost support since Sunak became PM. Seems that One Nation wet Toryism is not a vote winner. When Labour began to rise sharply in the polls in 2022, the polling organisation Electoral Calculous produced a chart based on their own findings and on other data as to where voters were migrating. For every 15 votes which were moving from the Conservatives, 7 of those votes were going to Labour, 4 to Not Voting, 3 to Reform and 1 to the Lib Dems. But Labour support fell at the same time as support for the Tories - if they were getting 50% of the ex-Tory vote then they were losing support from their existing voters. |
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Post by zanygame on May 25, 2024 17:52:37 GMT
When Labour began to rise sharply in the polls in 2022, the polling organisation Electoral Calculous produced a chart based on their own findings and on other data as to where voters were migrating. For every 15 votes which were moving from the Conservatives, 7 of those votes were going to Labour, 4 to Not Voting, 3 to Reform and 1 to the Lib Dems. But Labour support fell at the same time as support for the Tories - if they were getting 50% of the ex-Tory vote then they were losing support from their existing voters. I'm pretty confident they get in with a good majority, though a coalition with the greens would be very pleasing. Mostly people will be saying Tories? Who were they. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 25, 2024 18:04:11 GMT
But Labour support fell at the same time as support for the Tories - if they were getting 50% of the ex-Tory vote then they were losing support from their existing voters. I'm pretty confident they get in with a good majority, though a coalition with the greens would be very pleasing. Mostly people will be saying Tories? Who were they. A Lab/Green coalition! Good god, the very thought. That's exactly what Putin and Jinping would wish for. |
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Post by sandypine on May 25, 2024 18:05:34 GMT
But Labour support fell at the same time as support for the Tories - if they were getting 50% of the ex-Tory vote then they were losing support from their existing voters. I'm pretty confident they get in with a good majority, though a coalition with the greens would be very pleasing. Mostly people will be saying Tories? Who were they. We know what a coalition with the greens means, green panic with Labour following and darker, colder winters in the homes of many. |
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Post by zanygame on May 25, 2024 18:19:23 GMT
I'm pretty confident they get in with a good majority, though a coalition with the greens would be very pleasing. Mostly people will be saying Tories? Who were they. A Lab/Green coalition! Good god, the very thought. That's exactly what Putin and Jinping would wish for. I'm sure Putin can be as cuffed as the insane little rat hole he calls a brain would want and I couldn't care less. What I do care about is helping people and not fucking the planet. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 25, 2024 18:26:07 GMT
A Lab/Green coalition! Good god, the very thought. That's exactly what Putin and Jinping would wish for. I'm sure Putin can be as cuffed as the insane little rat hole he calls a brain would want and I couldn't care less. What I do care about is helping people and not fucking the planet. ZG, you truly are a saint. I'm choking on tears of virtuous pride. Putin and Jinping need people like you, in the west. |
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Post by witchfinder on May 25, 2024 18:28:42 GMT
When Labour began to rise sharply in the polls in 2022, the polling organisation Electoral Calculous produced a chart based on their own findings and on other data as to where voters were migrating. For every 15 votes which were moving from the Conservatives, 7 of those votes were going to Labour, 4 to Not Voting, 3 to Reform and 1 to the Lib Dems. But Labour support fell at the same time as support for the Tories - if they were getting 50% of the ex-Tory vote then they were losing support from their existing voters. If the numbers of people declaring that they would vote Labour increased, how do you arrive at the conclusion that Labour were "losing support from their existing voters" ? At the end of 2022 Labour were averaging between 45% and 50% At the begining of 2022 Labour were averaging between 38% and 45% At the begining of 2021 Labour were averaging between 35% and 40% |
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Post by zanygame on May 25, 2024 18:29:13 GMT
I'm sure Putin can be as cuffed as the insane little rat hole he calls a brain would want and I couldn't care less. What I do care about is helping people and not fucking the planet. ZG, you truly are a saint. I'm choking on tears of virtuous pride. Putin and Jinping need people like you, in the west. Thanks Red. So glad you've finally seen it. I expect you'll be upping your charity donations and getting your heat pumps installed next week. Or will you keep fucking your country and blaming Pakistanis for another week or to yet. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 25, 2024 18:37:17 GMT
ZG, you truly are a saint. I'm choking on tears of virtuous pride. Putin and Jinping need people like you, in the west. Thanks Red. So glad you've finally seen it. I expect you'll be upping your charity donations and getting your heat pumps installed next week. Or will you keep fucking your country and blaming Pakistanis for another week or to yet. I no longer give to charity, apart from a foodbank, because charities have all gone woke. And the chances of me installing a heat pump are on par with Elvis winning the Derby riding Shergar. Blaming Pakistanis! Are we still saving the planet, or have you jumped to grooming gangs? |
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Post by zanygame on May 25, 2024 19:36:21 GMT
Thanks Red. So glad you've finally seen it. I expect you'll be upping your charity donations and getting your heat pumps installed next week. Or will you keep fucking your country and blaming Pakistanis for another week or to yet. I no longer give to charity, apart from a foodbank, because charities have all gone woke. And the chances of me installing a heat pump are on par with Elvis winning the Derby riding Shergar. Blaming Pakistanis! Are we still saving the planet, or have you jumped to grooming gangs?  |
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Post by sandypine on May 25, 2024 19:41:24 GMT
A Lab/Green coalition! Good god, the very thought. That's exactly what Putin and Jinping would wish for. I'm sure Putin can be as cuffed as the insane little rat hole he calls a brain would want and I couldn't care less. What I do care about is helping people and not fucking the planet. The trouble is it is going to be fucking the people in order to 'save' the planet. I would be more interested in saving the British from being fucked by those determined to 'save' the planet on the basis of numerous dodgy, much discredited models. They are as dangerous as any group of religious zealots. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 25, 2024 19:46:58 GMT
I no longer give to charity, apart from a foodbank, because charities have all gone woke. And the chances of me installing a heat pump are on par with Elvis winning the Derby riding Shergar. Blaming Pakistanis! Are we still saving the planet, or have you jumped to grooming gangs? Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa superb. I guess I'll be getting a heat pump then, lol, don't hold yer breath. |
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Post by sheepy on May 25, 2024 19:51:09 GMT
Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa superb. I guess I'll be getting a heat pump then, lol, don't hold yer breath. Chill out Rackham the amount of hot air you exhale would probably keep your whole road warm. |
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