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Post by ProVeritas on May 23, 2024 20:14:12 GMT
Do you understand how logic works? That you have "done well enough out of it" does not negate the fact that you could have lost everything. It is the fact that you could have lost everything that makes it gambling. All The Best I've crossed a busy road today without being run over , but I 'could' have been run over and lost my life Is that gambling iyo? Well, it is not "gambling with money" so is not relevant to this discussion. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 23, 2024 20:20:33 GMT
In general terms the bookmaker makes the odds and those work on how much money is placed on specific horses and his book is always over rounded so he wins... Is exactly my point. Funny enough, it is also my point. The Bookmaker wins more than he loses because he ensures the house has a margin. The same is true of the Stock Market, unless you are one of the select few who protect the house margin (the house being the really, really big investors) you run the risk of losing everything. The stock market is as much a rigged game, as any bookies, or the gambling tables in Las Vegas. They are all rigged in favour of "the house"; and if you ain't "the house" you run the risk of losing everything. Stocks and shares may be more of an "informed gamble" than betting in the 2:30 at Chepstow, but it is still a gamble. Then again, it might not, there are race fans who meticulously make sure they are informed about the form of runners and riders. All The Best |
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Post by zanygame on May 23, 2024 20:56:35 GMT
Funny enough, it is also my point. The Bookmaker wins more than he loses because he ensures the house has a margin. The same is true of the Stock Market, unless you are one of the select few who protect the house margin (the house being the really, really big investors) you run the risk of losing everything. The stock market is as much a rigged game, as any bookies, or the gambling tables in Las Vegas. They are all rigged in favour of "the house"; and if you ain't "the house" you run the risk of losing everything. Stocks and shares may be more of an "informed gamble" than betting in the 2:30 at Chepstow, but it is still a gamble. Then again, it might not, there are race fans who meticulously make sure they are informed about the form of runners and riders. All The Best One bit you might miss in your comparison is how much rigging goes on in the stock market. Far more than the horses.  |
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Post by witchfinder on May 23, 2024 21:18:25 GMT
Its not been a very good two days for Conservative fortunes has it ?
Firstly, we get the announcement from a dripping wet Prime Minister, with "Things Can Only Get Better" belting out in the background.
Then, the tee-total upper class Prime Minister asks some brewery workers in Wales if they are looking forward to the football ( Wales did not qualify for the Euros ).
Then, he picks out two people in a crowd of workers, who ask the perfect questions that he had the perfect answer to .... later its discovered the two people are "plants" and dont even work there.
Nothing much seems to be going right for poor old Rishi, there are rumours that he went for a snap election because the votes of no confidence were piling up on Sir Graham Brady's desk.
One leading Tory MP who would not be named told a Radio 4 reporter that he thinks his party will win 260 seats, and Labour 290 seats, is he an optomist. ?
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Post by Pacifico on May 23, 2024 21:19:38 GMT
Funny enough, it is also my point. The Bookmaker wins more than he loses because he ensures the house has a margin. The same is true of the Stock Market, unless you are one of the select few who protect the house margin (the house being the really, really big investors) you run the risk of losing everything. The stock market is as much a rigged game, as any bookies, or the gambling tables in Las Vegas. They are all rigged in favour of "the house"; and if you ain't "the house" you run the risk of losing everything. Stocks and shares may be more of an "informed gamble" than betting in the 2:30 at Chepstow, but it is still a gamble. Then again, it might not, there are race fans who meticulously make sure they are informed about the form of runners and riders. All The Best One bit you might miss in your comparison is how much rigging goes on in the stock market. Far more than the horses. maybe - maybe not. But it is a sight safer betting on the stock market than the horses. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2024 21:19:58 GMT
Have you noticed how desperate Starmer's drones are to portray the Tories as some sort of opposition. It's almost embarrassing to read lol. Stick to hating Israel, kid.
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Post by jonksy on May 23, 2024 21:22:11 GMT
Its not been a very good two days for Conservative fortunes has it ? Firstly, we get the announcement from a dripping wet Prime Minister, with "Things Can Only Get Better" belting out in the background.Then, the tee-total upper class Prime Minister asks some brewery workers in Wales if they are looking forward to the football ( Wales did not qualify for the Euros ). Then, he picks out two people in a crowd of workers, who ask the perfect questions that he had the perfect answer to .... later its discovered the two people are "plants" and dont even work there. Nothing much seems to be going right for poor old Rishi, there are rumours that he went for a snap election because the votes of no confidence were piling up on Sir Graham Brady's desk. One leading Tory MP who would not be named told a Radio 4 reporter that he thinks his party will win 260 seats, and Labour 290 seats, is he an optomist. ? That welsh arsehole should have been arrested FFS Fiddles....Thats the same pratt we had to hear and endure on every political broadcast after Brexit drowning out live reports.. |
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Post by zanygame on May 24, 2024 7:20:13 GMT
One bit you might miss in your comparison is how much rigging goes on in the stock market. Far more than the horses. maybe - maybe not. But it is a sight safer betting on the stock market than the horses. Indeed. And not every company in the stock market is in a race. So more like buying a share in a stud horse than a bet on a single race. |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 24, 2024 22:27:36 GMT
Its not been a very good two days for Conservative fortunes has it ? Firstly, we get the announcement from a dripping wet Prime Minister, with "Things Can Only Get Better" belting out in the background. Then, the tee-total upper class Prime Minister asks some brewery workers in Wales if they are looking forward to the football ( Wales did not qualify for the Euros ). Then, he picks out two people in a crowd of workers, who ask the perfect questions that he had the perfect answer to .... later its discovered the two people are "plants" and dont even work there. Nothing much seems to be going right for poor old Rishi, there are rumours that he went for a snap election because the votes of no confidence were piling up on Sir Graham Brady's desk. One leading Tory MP who would not be named told a Radio 4 reporter that he thinks his party will win 260 seats, and Labour 290 seats, is he an optomist. ? And today he held an event in the Titanic Quarter and had his picture taken on the plane over next to the exit sign. His aides are really writing the script for him. The polls usually narrow during the election campaign, but he's really going to have to do better than this. |
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Post by sheepy on May 25, 2024 5:27:17 GMT
Its not been a very good two days for Conservative fortunes has it ? Firstly, we get the announcement from a dripping wet Prime Minister, with "Things Can Only Get Better" belting out in the background. Then, the tee-total upper class Prime Minister asks some brewery workers in Wales if they are looking forward to the football ( Wales did not qualify for the Euros ). Then, he picks out two people in a crowd of workers, who ask the perfect questions that he had the perfect answer to .... later its discovered the two people are "plants" and dont even work there. Nothing much seems to be going right for poor old Rishi, there are rumours that he went for a snap election because the votes of no confidence were piling up on Sir Graham Brady's desk. One leading Tory MP who would not be named told a Radio 4 reporter that he thinks his party will win 260 seats, and Labour 290 seats, is he an optomist. ? The Tories are leaving in droves just like Labour did, they know they have been caught, basically not running a country on behalf of the electorate as a whole or standing by anything they said they would or indeed what people had voted for. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 25, 2024 6:43:21 GMT
Quite amusing that Sunak was installed as Leader by the Parliamentary Party against the wishes of the Party Membership - and yet here we are just 2 years later with the greatest mass resignation in the history of UK politics.. Suspending democracy worked out well..  |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 25, 2024 7:55:46 GMT
Quite amusing that Sunak was installed as Leader by the Parliamentary Party against the wishes of the Party Membership - and yet here we are just 2 years later with the greatest mass resignation in the history of UK politics.. Suspending democracy worked out well.. The mass resignation has nothing to do with "suspending democracy" when Sunak was appointed Tory Leader. It has everything to do with the Johnson, Truss and Sunak eroding any faith the electorate had left in tired, oft discredited, Tory tropes. All The Best |
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Post by happyhornet on May 25, 2024 8:35:04 GMT
Quite amusing that Sunak was installed as Leader by the Parliamentary Party against the wishes of the Party Membership - and yet here we are just 2 years later with the greatest mass resignation in the history of UK politics.. Suspending democracy worked out well.. The mass resignation has nothing to do with "suspending democracy" when Sunak was appointed Tory Leader. It has everything to do with the Johnson, Truss and Sunak eroding any faith the electorate had left in tired, oft discredited, Tory tropes. All The Best Yeap, Sunak has been a disaster so far but he can't take all blame, they were already polling through the floor when he took over thanks to the antics of his predecessors. A lot of people are still literally paying for the dismal Truss experiment failure. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 25, 2024 10:45:27 GMT
Quite amusing that Sunak was installed as Leader by the Parliamentary Party against the wishes of the Party Membership - and yet here we are just 2 years later with the greatest mass resignation in the history of UK politics.. Suspending democracy worked out well.. The mass resignation has nothing to do with "suspending democracy" when Sunak was appointed Tory Leader. It has everything to do with the Johnson, Truss and Sunak eroding any faith the electorate had left in tired, oft discredited, Tory tropes. All The Best The people who have lost faith are Tory supporters who have decamped in increasing numbers to Reform or None of the Above. They certainly have not flocked to Labour who have actually lost support since Sunak became PM. Seems that One Nation wet Toryism is not a vote winner. |
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Post by ratcliff on May 25, 2024 11:57:30 GMT
Funny enough, it is also my point. The Bookmaker wins more than he loses because he ensures the house has a margin. The same is true of the Stock Market, unless you are one of the select few who protect the house margin (the house being the really, really big investors) you run the risk of losing everything. The stock market is as much a rigged game, as any bookies, or the gambling tables in Las Vegas. They are all rigged in favour of "the house"; and if you ain't "the house" you run the risk of losing everything. Stocks and shares may be more of an "informed gamble" than betting in the 2:30 at Chepstow, but it is still a gamble. Then again, it might not, there are race fans who meticulously make sure they are informed about the form of runners and riders. All The Best
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