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Post by jonksy on May 22, 2024 12:30:07 GMT
People who work hard, make a contribution, keep their noses clean and look after their families have my respect regardless of who they vote for. But you do you. Why respect people who live a decent conservative lifestyle but are so dumb that they would vote Labour? Labour will only rob them blind and brainwash their kids. Aint that the truth... |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 22, 2024 12:30:35 GMT
Perhaps if the Tory press and social media had stopped bleating about the luxurious life handed out to immigrants and asylum seekers by the UK we might have found that more remained in countries like France, Germany the Netherlands, etc, which each treat (the greater number of) immigrants they take better than the UK does... Compared to what the EU and French hand out to illegals, they are handed a luxury lifestyle in this country. Perhaps if we issued them with a tent or a prison bed in a container, as the EU/French do, they may be less inclined to cross the channel. |
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Post by patman post on May 22, 2024 12:49:28 GMT
Perhaps if the Tory press and social media had stopped bleating about the luxurious life handed out to immigrants and asylum seekers by the UK we might have found that more remained in countries like France, Germany the Netherlands, etc, which each treat (the greater number of) immigrants they take better than the UK does... Compared to what the EU and French hand out to illegals, they are handed a luxury lifestyle in this country. Perhaps if we issued them with a tent or a prison bed in a container, as the EU/French do, they may be less inclined to cross the channel. That's crap and you know it — all through their asylum seeking process, an asylum seeker in France is entitled to health insurance (allowing them to access medical care), accommodation (housing), monthly allowance (financial assistance each month), and bank account... |
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Post by ratcliff on May 22, 2024 13:03:01 GMT
Compared to what the EU and French hand out to illegals, they are handed a luxury lifestyle in this country. Perhaps if we issued them with a tent or a prison bed in a container, as the EU/French do, they may be less inclined to cross the channel. That's crap and you know it — all through their asylum seeking process, an asylum seeker in France is entitled to health insurance (allowing them to access medical care), accommodation (housing), monthly allowance (financial assistance each month), and bank account... Just looked up gov.uk for asylum seekers - seems they get plenty www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get#:~:text=Cash%20support,cash%20from%20a%20cash%20machine. What you'll get
You can ask for somewhere to live, a cash allowance or both as an asylum seeker.
Housing
You’ll be given somewhere to live if you need it. This could be in a flat, house, hostel or bed and breakfast.
You cannot choose where you live. It’s unlikely you’ll get to live in London or south-east England.
Cash support
You’ll usually get £49.18 for each person in your household. This will help you pay for things you need like food, clothing and toiletries.
Your allowance will be loaded onto a debit card (ASPEN card) each week. You’ll be able to use the card to get cash from a cash machine.
If your accommodation provides your meals
You’ll get £8.86 for each person in your household instead.
If you’ve been refused asylum but you’re still eligible for support
You’ll be given:
somewhere to live
£49.18 per person on a payment card for food, clothing and toiletries (or £8.86 per person if your accommodation provides your meals)
You will not be given:
the payment card if you do not take the offer of somewhere to live
any money
Extra money for mothers and young children
You’ll get extra money to buy healthy food if you’re pregnant or a mother of a child aged 3 or under. The amount you get will depend on your situation.
Your situation Extra payment per week
Pregnant mother £5.25
Baby under 1 year old £9.50
Child aged 1 to 3 £5.25
Maternity payment
You can apply for a one-off £300 maternity payment if your baby is due in 11 weeks or less, or if your baby is under 6 months old.
Applying for the maternity grant
You apply for the maternity grant in the same way whether you’re still an asylum seeker or you’ve been refused asylum.
You’ll need to request form MAT B1 from your doctor to apply for the payment. You can apply for the maternity payment at the same time you apply for asylum support.
If you get pregnant after you’ve applied for asylum support, you can apply to Migrant Help.
Healthcare
You may get free National Health Service (NHS) healthcare, such as to see a doctor or get hospital treatment.
You’ll also get:
free prescriptions for medicine
free dental care for your teeth
free eyesight tests
help paying for glasses
Education
Your children must attend school if they are aged 5 to 17. All state schools are free and your children may be able to get free school meals. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 22, 2024 13:04:56 GMT
Compared to what the EU and French hand out to illegals, they are handed a luxury lifestyle in this country. Perhaps if we issued them with a tent or a prison bed in a container, as the EU/French do, they may be less inclined to cross the channel. That's crap and you know it — all through their asylum seeking process, an asylum seeker in France is entitled to health insurance (allowing them to access medical care), accommodation (housing), monthly allowance (financial assistance each month), and bank account... These are the facilities put on by the EU/French authorities, containers and tents.  These are the facilities put on by the UK government, luxury hotels.  If I were an illegal living in a tent or container in the EU state of Frog, I'd want to get to the UK, wouldn't you? If illegals were treated the same in this country as they are in the EU/France, perhaps they wouldn't be so keen to cross the channel. |
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Post by patman post on May 22, 2024 13:51:20 GMT
That's crap and you know it — all through their asylum seeking process, an asylum seeker in France is entitled to health insurance (allowing them to access medical care), accommodation (housing), monthly allowance (financial assistance each month), and bank account... Just looked up gov.uk for asylum seekers - seems they get plenty www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get#:~:text=Cash%20support,cash%20from%20a%20cash%20machine. What you'll get
You can ask for somewhere to live, a cash allowance or both as an asylum seeker.
Housing
You’ll be given somewhere to live if you need it. This could be in a flat, house, hostel or bed and breakfast.
You cannot choose where you live. It’s unlikely you’ll get to live in London or south-east England.
Cash support
You’ll usually get £49.18 for each person in your household. This will help you pay for things you need like food, clothing and toiletries.
Your allowance will be loaded onto a debit card (ASPEN card) each week. You’ll be able to use the card to get cash from a cash machine.
If your accommodation provides your meals
You’ll get £8.86 for each person in your household instead.
If you’ve been refused asylum but you’re still eligible for support
You’ll be given:
somewhere to live
£49.18 per person on a payment card for food, clothing and toiletries (or £8.86 per person if your accommodation provides your meals)
You will not be given:
the payment card if you do not take the offer of somewhere to live
any money
Extra money for mothers and young children
You’ll get extra money to buy healthy food if you’re pregnant or a mother of a child aged 3 or under. The amount you get will depend on your situation.
Your situation Extra payment per week
Pregnant mother £5.25
Baby under 1 year old £9.50
Child aged 1 to 3 £5.25
Maternity payment
You can apply for a one-off £300 maternity payment if your baby is due in 11 weeks or less, or if your baby is under 6 months old.
Applying for the maternity grant
You apply for the maternity grant in the same way whether you’re still an asylum seeker or you’ve been refused asylum.
You’ll need to request form MAT B1 from your doctor to apply for the payment. You can apply for the maternity payment at the same time you apply for asylum support.
If you get pregnant after you’ve applied for asylum support, you can apply to Migrant Help.
Healthcare
You may get free National Health Service (NHS) healthcare, such as to see a doctor or get hospital treatment.
You’ll also get:
free prescriptions for medicine
free dental care for your teeth
free eyesight tests
help paying for glasses
Education
Your children must attend school if they are aged 5 to 17. All state schools are free and your children may be able to get free school meals.And that's what amounts to Red's Luxury Lifestyle...?
As we exit hotels, we will continue to demand that local authorities deliver on their mandated commitments to their regional dispersal plans. Dispersal accommodation is cheaper to the taxpayer and more manageable for communities. We will also continue to deliver the ramp up of the Bibby Stockholm and our large sites as accommodation to ensure we can reduce reliance on hotel accommodation. |
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Post by ratcliff on May 22, 2024 14:15:22 GMT
Just looked up gov.uk for asylum seekers - seems they get plenty www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get#:~:text=Cash%20support,cash%20from%20a%20cash%20machine. What you'll get
You can ask for somewhere to live, a cash allowance or both as an asylum seeker.
Housing
You’ll be given somewhere to live if you need it. This could be in a flat, house, hostel or bed and breakfast.
You cannot choose where you live. It’s unlikely you’ll get to live in London or south-east England.
Cash support
You’ll usually get £49.18 for each person in your household. This will help you pay for things you need like food, clothing and toiletries.
Your allowance will be loaded onto a debit card (ASPEN card) each week. You’ll be able to use the card to get cash from a cash machine.
If your accommodation provides your meals
You’ll get £8.86 for each person in your household instead.
If you’ve been refused asylum but you’re still eligible for support
You’ll be given:
somewhere to live
£49.18 per person on a payment card for food, clothing and toiletries (or £8.86 per person if your accommodation provides your meals)
You will not be given:
the payment card if you do not take the offer of somewhere to live
any money
Extra money for mothers and young children
You’ll get extra money to buy healthy food if you’re pregnant or a mother of a child aged 3 or under. The amount you get will depend on your situation.
Your situation Extra payment per week
Pregnant mother £5.25
Baby under 1 year old £9.50
Child aged 1 to 3 £5.25
Maternity payment
You can apply for a one-off £300 maternity payment if your baby is due in 11 weeks or less, or if your baby is under 6 months old.
Applying for the maternity grant
You apply for the maternity grant in the same way whether you’re still an asylum seeker or you’ve been refused asylum.
You’ll need to request form MAT B1 from your doctor to apply for the payment. You can apply for the maternity payment at the same time you apply for asylum support.
If you get pregnant after you’ve applied for asylum support, you can apply to Migrant Help.
Healthcare
You may get free National Health Service (NHS) healthcare, such as to see a doctor or get hospital treatment.
You’ll also get:
free prescriptions for medicine
free dental care for your teeth
free eyesight tests
help paying for glasses
Education
Your children must attend school if they are aged 5 to 17. All state schools are free and your children may be able to get free school meals.And that's what amounts to Red's Luxury Lifestyle...?
As we exit hotels, we will continue to demand that local authorities deliver on their mandated commitments to their regional dispersal plans. Dispersal accommodation is cheaper to the taxpayer and more manageable for communities. We will also continue to deliver the ramp up of the Bibby Stockholm and our large sites as accommodation to ensure we can reduce reliance on hotel accommodation. All for free with no obligation (and don't forget all the do-gooding groups who will bend over backwards to supply free everything and anything including free lawyers to sue government/DWP/media and start protests |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 22, 2024 14:40:59 GMT
It was only a short-term 3 year blip though. By 2011 the the trajectory of income equality was back on track.  Of course, it was fair that the rich who lost money on the stock-market did so, they had excess money to waste on gambling, they lost it. I am sure most people wouldn't give a damn if the John Scrote from the local council estate lost £20 on the 1pm race at Chepstow, so why should they give a damn when Rupert Bigwig loses it on the stock-market? If you can't afford to lose it you shouldn't gamble it in the first place.
All The Best
I am sure most people wouldn't give a damn if the John Scrote from the local council estate lost £20 on the 1pm race at Chepstow, so why should they give a damn when Rupert Bigwig loses it on the stock-market?Everyone who has a private pension and every ordinary worker is enrolled by law in a workplace pension which is invested in the stock market.
How vile that you should celebrate financial losses of ordinary workerswww.gov.uk/workplace-pensions/joining-a-workplace-pension#:~:text=Your%20employer%20must%20automatically%20enrol,least%20%C2%A310%2C000%20per%20year Well, that is just part of the great Stock-Market Scam - privatise the profits, socialise the liabilities. The purpose of which is to incentivise those who gain no real benefit from the stock-market to support measures that greatly benefit those who do. Keep the poor poor, make the rich richer - the underpinning principle of modern Capitalism. All The Best |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 22, 2024 14:47:42 GMT
Keep the poor poor, make the rich richer - the underpinning principle of modern socialism... There, fixed that for you. All The Best.  |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 22, 2024 15:01:14 GMT
Keep the poor poor, make the rich richer - the underpinning principle of modern socialism... There, fixed that for you. All The Best. Please do not LIE about my opinion by changing my quoted words. It is deeply dishonest. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 22, 2024 15:03:25 GMT
One good thing that will come from a Labour victory?
There's more than one good thing; maybe we can start to get a handle on fixing the Tories actual legacy:
Closed 600 police stations
Closed 800 public libraries
Closed 1300 children's centres
Cut council funding by 50%
Extra 600,000 kids in poverty
Extra 5 million people on NHS waiting list
Highest tax burden in 70 years
1000% increase in food banks
Trebled national debt
Trebled immigration
Stagnant economic growth
Dirty rivers
All The Best
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Post by ratcliff on May 22, 2024 15:07:19 GMT
Of course, it was fair that the rich who lost money on the stock-market did so, they had excess money to waste on gambling, they lost it.
I am sure most people wouldn't give a damn if the John Scrote from the local council estate lost £20 on the 1pm race at Chepstow, so why should they give a damn when Rupert Bigwig loses it on the stock-market?Everyone who has a private pension and every ordinary worker is enrolled by law in a workplace pension which is invested in the stock market.
How vile that you should celebrate financial losses of ordinary workerswww.gov.uk/workplace-pensions/joining-a-workplace-pension#:~:text=Your%20employer%20must%20automatically%20enrol,least%20%C2%A310%2C000%20per%20year Well, that is just part of the great Stock-Market Scam - privatise the profits, socialise the liabilities. The purpose of which is to incentivise those who gain no real benefit from the stock-market to support measures that greatly benefit those who do. Keep the poor poor, make the rich richer - the underpinning principle of modern Capitalism. All The Best You don't agree with employers having to provide a workplace pension to all workers by law? There's not much benefit to workers from a workplace pension ? You want to make all reliant on the pittance of an OAP state pension How telling , totally naïve and vile |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 22, 2024 15:19:57 GMT
Well, that is just part of the great Stock-Market Scam - privatise the profits, socialise the liabilities. The purpose of which is to incentivise those who gain no real benefit from the stock-market to support measures that greatly benefit those who do. Keep the poor poor, make the rich richer - the underpinning principle of modern Capitalism. All The Best You don't agree with employers having to provide a workplace pension to all workers by law? There's not much benefit to workers from a workplace pension ? You want to make all reliant on the pittance of an OAP state pension How telling , totally naïve and vile Never said any of that. Want to continue jumping to stupid conclusions? Workplace Pension is a great idea - gambling it all on the stock market not so great. Of course the State Pension being so pitiful is a Political choice made by the Conservatives so they could reduce NICs and taxes on big-business and the really rich. All The Best |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 22, 2024 15:59:21 GMT
There, fixed that for you. All The Best. Please do not LIE about my opinion by changing my quoted words. It is deeply dishonest. All The Best
Oh don't be so dramatic, Nulla - no one believes that I did anything of the sort.
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Post by ProVeritas on May 22, 2024 16:45:24 GMT
Please do not LIE about my opinion by changing my quoted words. It is deeply dishonest. All The Best
Oh don't be so dramatic, Nulla - no one believes that I did anything of the sort.
Then they are as stupid as you - because you clearly wilfully altered a quote by me the LIE about my opinion. All The Best |
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