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Post by jonksy on May 7, 2024 14:46:50 GMT
Well that is partly my point: the number of seats a party get is NOT even remotely linked to the % share of the vote they get. The Tories have rigged the Constituency Boundaries in their favour, and have tried to disenfranchise the poor and minority demographics by introducing Voter ID - and they still get wiped out at the Local Elections. They are so Toxic they can even win when they rigged the game. All The Best You don't believe that those on the electoral role should not have their photo ID officially verified when casting their vote? Do you not accept that producing a valid passport for checking on entry at border control (airports/ports/international stations ) is a necessary requirement? Accepted voting photo ID is available completely FOC so no crap needed from you about paying for passports/driving licences etc - it's free www.gov.uk/apply-for-photo-id-voter-authority-certificateEven the dead got a vote in some labour areas there is enough proof on the net if you use Google.... |
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Post by patman post on May 7, 2024 14:54:10 GMT
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Post by witchfinder on May 7, 2024 15:44:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2024 15:49:26 GMT
Apparently, the antisemites in Labour still maintain their propaganda that the Tories are Conservative.
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Post by jonksy on May 7, 2024 15:53:45 GMT
Apparently, the antisemites in Labour still maintain their propaganda that the Tories are Conservative. Poor old fiddles you have to admire his pesistence in making a total prick of himself... |
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Post by johnofgwent on May 7, 2024 16:29:48 GMT
Well that is partly my point: the number of seats a party get is NOT even remotely linked to the % share of the vote they get. The Tories have rigged the Constituency Boundaries in their favour, and have tried to disenfranchise the poor and minority demographics by introducing Voter ID - and they still get wiped out at the Local Elections. They are so Toxic they can even win when they rigged the game. All The Best You don't believe that those on the electoral role should not have their photo ID officially verified when casting their vote? Do you not accept that producing a valid passport for checking on entry at border control (airports/ports/international stations ) is a necessary requirement? Accepted voting photo ID is available completely FOC so no crap needed from you about paying for passports/driving licences etc - it's free www.gov.uk/apply-for-photo-id-voter-authority-certificateTo add to the points you make When Boris implemented the need for photo id it was not clear TO ME whether i would have any as the reality today regarding acceptance of EXPIRED id was unclear TO ME I therefore applied for and got a free Voter Authentication Certificate. It was no more difficult than the process to get my bus pass (which i could have used, actually) and the photo was from my webcam. It took about 10 min to apply for, took a week to come and all our public libraries put adverts in bus stations saying you could use THEIR computers to apply if you didn't have one. So they did bend over backwards to make getting one easy On turning up to vote, the guy in tbe polling station did not know what to do with it though, it being the firdt they had seen 😂😂 |
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Post by ratcliff on May 7, 2024 16:55:27 GMT
disenfranchise the poor and minority demographics by introducing Voter ID -You don't believe that those on the electoral role should not have their photo ID officially verified when casting their vote? Do you not accept that producing a valid passport for checking on entry at border control (airports/ports/international stations ) is a necessary requirement? Accepted voting photo ID is available completely FOC so no crap needed from you about paying for passports/driving licences etc - it's free www.gov.uk/apply-for-photo-id-voter-authority-certificate To add to the points you make When Boris implemented the need for photo id it was not clear TO ME whether i would have any as the reality today regarding acceptance of EXPIRED id was unclear TO ME I therefore applied for and got a free Voter Authentication Certificate. It was no more difficult than the process to get my bus pass (which i could have used, actually) and the photo was from my webcam. It took about 10 min to apply for, took a week to come and all our public libraries put adverts in bus stations saying you could use THEIR computers to apply if you didn't have one. So they did bend over backwards to make getting one easy On turning up to vote, the guy in tbe polling station did not know what to do with it though, it being the firdt they had seen 😂😂 My sister did a polling station shift last week (there were 54 pages of training beforehand to be completed) so I asked her - checking the id is done by handing it to the clerk who checks validity and whilst holding it asks the voter their name which must match the name on the id . |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 7, 2024 18:08:45 GMT
Well that is partly my point: the number of seats a party get is NOT even remotely linked to the % share of the vote they get. The Tories have rigged the Constituency Boundaries in their favour, and have tried to disenfranchise the poor and minority demographics by introducing Voter ID - and they still get wiped out at the Local Elections. They are so Toxic they can even win when they rigged the game. All The Best Total billocks.....Funny how you neglect to mention the RED WALL... Well, the Red Wall is not relevant to the discussion at hand; in case you don't understand why, let me explain - the Red Wall votes are already counted in the 43% vote share the Tories got. The Tories won only 43% of the vote - not a majority. But did somehow end up with a majority of seats. That is why we desperately need PR in this country. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 7, 2024 18:14:01 GMT
Exactly. 193 Cases of voter fraud - the VAST MAJORITY of which led to no prosecution at all. Even the UK Parliaments' own investigation says as many as 8 MILLION people could be disenfranchised. Therefore the alleged cure (Voter ID) will negatively affect 41,000 TIMES more people than the alleged disease (Voter Fraud). I doubt there's even a handful of Tories dumb enough to think that was a good idea (willing to bet most of them are here though). All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 7, 2024 18:20:19 GMT
Well that is partly my point: the number of seats a party get is NOT even remotely linked to the % share of the vote they get. The Tories have rigged the Constituency Boundaries in their favour, and have tried to disenfranchise the poor and minority demographics by introducing Voter ID - and they still get wiped out at the Local Elections. They are so Toxic they can even win when they rigged the game. All The Best You don't believe that those on the electoral role should not have their photo ID officially verified when casting their vote? Do you not accept that producing a valid passport for checking on entry at border control (airports/ports/international stations ) is a necessary requirement? Accepted voting photo ID is available completely FOC so no crap needed from you about paying for passports/driving licences etc - it's free www.gov.uk/apply-for-photo-id-voter-authority-certificateIn principle I don't have many issues with the need for Voter ID, though the extremely low levels of voter fraud would suggest that introducing it was using a wrecking-ball to crack a nut. My actual issue was in how it was implemented: Bus Pass is fine to use to vote, Young Person's Rail Card was not. That clearly indicates a desire to make it harder for younger people to vote than older people, and funny enough older people tend to vote Tory and younger people tend not to vote Tory. The two things taken together make it clear this was cynical plan to disenfranchise those least like to vote Tory. That, and ONLY that, was why I was, and remain, opposed to it. All The Best |
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Post by sheepy on May 7, 2024 18:28:30 GMT
Personally, I don't believe we should hang all of them, maybe just one or two so to set an example.
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Post by jonksy on May 7, 2024 18:43:05 GMT
Total billocks.....Funny how you neglect to mention the RED WALL... Well, the Red Wall is not relevant to the discussion at hand; in case you don't understand why, let me explain - the Red Wall votes are already counted in the 43% vote share the Tories got. The Tories won only 43% of the vote - not a majority. But did somehow end up with a majority of seats. That is why we desperately need PR in this country. All The Best That's funny the redwall was very relevant until labour lost it. Or were you lying then? |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 7, 2024 19:01:27 GMT
Well, the Red Wall is not relevant to the discussion at hand; in case you don't understand why, let me explain - the Red Wall votes are already counted in the 43% vote share the Tories got. The Tories won only 43% of the vote - not a majority. But did somehow end up with a majority of seats. That is why we desperately need PR in this country. All The Best That's funny the redwall was very relevant until labour lost it. Or were you lying then? Mmmmm, I thought that might be too difficult for you to grasp; let's try a bit different approach: THE REDWALL VOTES ARE ALREADY COUNTED IN THE 43% VOTE SHARE THE TORIES WON THEREFORE THERE IS NO NEED TO MENTION THEM AGAIN AS THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR I can only hope only having one word per line makes it easier for you to grasp. If you have any problems with some of the bigger words look them up in a dictionary. All The Best |
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Post by jonksy on May 7, 2024 19:40:19 GMT
That's funny the redwall was very relevant until labour lost it. Or were you lying then? Mmmmm, I thought that might be too difficult for you to grasp; let's try a bit different approach: THE REDWALL VOTES ARE ALREADY COUNTED IN THE 43% VOTE SHARE THE TORIES WON THEREFORE THERE IS NO NEED TO MENTION THEM AGAIN AS THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR I can only hope only having one word per line makes it easier for you to grasp. If you have any problems with some of the bigger words look them up in a dictionary. All The Best Usual ploy of lefty remainers...They think they are the onlyones who understand FFS....And I don't need a dictionary to see through your usual lefty bullshit...As unlike you I have a grasp on reality..
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Post by witchfinder on May 7, 2024 19:57:33 GMT
Apparently, the antisemites in Labour still maintain their propaganda that the Tories are Conservative. Poor old fiddles you have to admire his pesistence in making a total prick of himself... Are you incapable of debate, or of putting forward any political opinion without resorting to offensive or insulting remarks. ? |
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