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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2024 8:51:27 GMT
‘We are determined’: George Galloway threatens to wreak havoc for Starmer: ‘We want a hung Parliament’George Galloway says he is determined to bring about a hung Parliament in a challenge to Sir Keir Starmer’s Labour.The Workers’ Party leader has already made clear his intention to stand candidates everywhere.
Labour are desperate to win over Hamas supporters, but they know they can't be as obvious about it as the last Labour leader. The Labour party dunces have little on offer except propaganda and insults, and claims that a vote for Galloway is a vote for the Tories. They think they're being sly.  |
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Post by sheepy on May 5, 2024 8:55:57 GMT
‘We are determined’: George Galloway threatens to wreak havoc for Starmer: ‘We want a hung Parliament’George Galloway says he is determined to bring about a hung Parliament in a challenge to Sir Keir Starmer’s Labour.The Workers’ Party leader has already made clear his intention to stand candidates everywhere.
Labour are desperate to win over Hamas supporters, but they know they can't be as obvious about it as the last Labour leader. The Labour party dunces have little on offer except propaganda and insults, and claims that a vote for Galloway is a vote for the Tories. They think they're being sly. Just one or two things Einstein, for one that makes the thousands of Israelis protesting for a ceasefire Hamas supporters, for two if they were Hamas supporters, they would be turning to terrorist tactics which nowhere around the world has that occurred. Well only in two places so far can you guess where those might be? |
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Post by witchfinder on May 5, 2024 9:01:52 GMT
‘We are determined’: George Galloway threatens to wreak havoc for Starmer: ‘We want a hung Parliament’George Galloway says he is determined to bring about a hung Parliament in a challenge to Sir Keir Starmer’s Labour.The Workers’ Party leader has already made clear his intention to stand candidates everywhere.
Labour are desperate to win over Hamas supporters, but they know they can't be as obvious about it as the last Labour leader. The Labour party dunces have little on offer except propaganda and insults, and claims that a vote for Galloway is a vote for the Tories. They think they're being sly. Twisting the truth again I see, making things up, telling fibs. Do you actually know the difference between "a Hamas supporter" and a person who does not support what Hamas did on October 7th, but who opposes what Israel is doing in Gaza. I AM SUCH A PERSON ... I do not condone any form of terrorism which involves killing / murdering innocent people, including innocent Israeli's. But I condemn totally the cowardly, inhuman and unjustified actions of the IDF in Gaza. Branding the entire British Muslim electorate as "Hamas Supporters" means your not fit to debate anything, because you are deranged. |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 5, 2024 9:03:04 GMT
The SKY estimates / figures cannot be taken seriously at all, firstly because the elections were not Westminster elections ( except Blackpool ), secondly the elections were only in certain areas, not in others. But also just as important is the fact that many people vote for personalities in local elections, and vote differently in a General Election. As for George Galloway, well lets take the region where I live, he would have virtually no effect on any constituency within 60 miles of where I live, but of course he COULD affect the result in SOME areas with particularly large Muslim populations. The George Galloway / Gaza effect had little or no effect for Andy Burnham, or in the West Midlands where the Tories were certain they could hold on, or in London where Labours Sadiq Khan won comfortably, same in Leeds, Liverpool, the Northeast and most places. When a General Election comes, people will go to vote in the knowledge that a vote for Galloway helps the Tories. That isn't right. Here in the West Mids the independent (he didn't run on a Worker's Party ticket, but on a pro-Gaza one) got 69,000 votes, 42,000 which were in Birmingham. Given that Labour's majority was 1508, that's a huge impact. More than twice as many as Reform. Labour has much work to do to win these votes back. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2024 9:10:39 GMT
Labour are desperate to win over Hamas supporters, but they know they can't be as obvious about it as the last Labour leader. The Labour party dunces have little on offer except propaganda and insults, and claims that a vote for Galloway is a vote for the Tories. They think they're being sly. Twisting the truth again I see, making things up, telling fibs. Do you actually know the difference between "a Hamas supporter" and a person who does not support what Hamas did on October 7th, but who opposes what Israel is doing in Gaza. I AM SUCH A PERSON ... I do not condone any form of terrorism which involves killing / murdering innocent people, including innocent Israeli's. But I condemn totally the cowardly, inhuman and unjustified actions of the IDF in Gaza. Branding the entire British Muslim electorate as "Hamas Supporters" means your not fit to debate anything, because you are deranged.^^ Offers little else except lies, propaganda and insults and he still can't spell basic words properly. |
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Post by witchfinder on May 5, 2024 9:13:27 GMT
I get your point, but I could say that Labour did win the West Midlands DESPITE (1) the Tories been hopeful of retaining it, and (2) the Gaza effect.
"The Gaza Effect" is Labours nemesis, just as Reform UK is the Tories bogeyman, except that Reform could potentially affect every constituency, whereas "The Gaza Effect" would be limited.
British Muslims and others who want a change of policy on Gaza now have a huge dilema to face, do they vote as a protest, or do they vote FOR a Labour government, and to rid us of the Tories.
But I think your correct, I am certain that Starmer will now work with communities who are horrified at what they see on their TV screens, and MANY white, British non-Muslims are equally as disgusted.
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Post by witchfinder on May 5, 2024 9:15:20 GMT
Twisting the truth again I see, making things up, telling fibs. Do you actually know the difference between "a Hamas supporter" and a person who does not support what Hamas did on October 7th, but who opposes what Israel is doing in Gaza. I AM SUCH A PERSON ... I do not condone any form of terrorism which involves killing / murdering innocent people, including innocent Israeli's. But I condemn totally the cowardly, inhuman and unjustified actions of the IDF in Gaza. Branding the entire British Muslim electorate as "Hamas Supporters" means your not fit to debate anything, because you are deranged.^^ Offers little else except lies, propaganda and insults and he still can't spell basic words properly. You basically branded every British Muslim who are part of the electorate as "Hamas Supporters" Do you think that is right, do you stand by that statement. ? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 5, 2024 9:22:16 GMT
^^ Offers little else except lies, propaganda and insults and he still can't spell basic words properly. You basically branded every British Muslim who are part of the electorate as "Hamas Supporters" Do you think that is right, do you stand by that statement. ? No he didn't. That was a strawman that you invented. |
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Post by sheepy on May 5, 2024 9:23:31 GMT
The thing is, you all keep repeating the same mantras after every defeat for the Westminster party, millions don't return to the fold because the majority have sussed out it is a sham hiding behind the word democracy. The only time the Westminster party last saw a huge turnout was for a referendum which voted against their wishes, with Boris jumping on the bandwagon afterwards and making out he represented it. He never did he is an establishment troll if ever there were one. My paternal grandfather was a great sceptic when it came to "the establishment". He fought in WWII but immediately upon returning home burned his medals, said the war was a sham, and taught his children to distrust authority - especially any authority telling you that some other guy just like you, but in another country, was the enemy. I doubt he would have called himself a socialist, but IMO he was one. He died when I was 10 years old; but even so I remember often hearing him say "If voting had the power to change anything they would make it illegal". As much as I believe myself to be a democrat I also believe that, in this country especially, he was 100% correct. There have been 14 General Elections in my life time, 10 of which I have been able to vote it and numerous local and EU elections. In all that time one thing has been a constant: the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and the poor getting poorer is always blamed on Johnny Foreigner. Isn't it about time we woke up a bit and saw the real enemy: the system that perpetuates this no matter who we vote for. All The Best Let me tell what isn't alright, sending out their followers of fashion trying to convince everyone that a vote for them is the correct thing, when the majority of voters are sick and tired of them, while they have no idea of what is actually occurring outside the bubble, they have created for themselves, while they also dress up like Mr Ben in any uniform that suits them at any given time as though they have some level of understanding, amongst a few things. Probably the worst one of all though is trying to convince everyone it is all done in their names. Which is utter bullshit. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2024 9:26:33 GMT
^^ Offers little else except lies, propaganda and insults and he still can't spell basic words properly. You basically branded every British Muslim who are part of the electorate as "Hamas Supporters" Do you think that is right, do you stand by that statement. ? It's you who is associating every British Muslim with Hamas supporters. That is your propaganda and lies projected onto me. If Labour isn't supporting your hatred of Israel, where you once claimed they "reap what they sow" on your self-deleted account, a day after the terrorist attack, then you are in the wrong party. You can't just redefine something to suit your warped mind. Galloway is your man. |
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Post by witchfinder on May 5, 2024 9:29:35 GMT
You basically branded every British Muslim who are part of the electorate as "Hamas Supporters" Do you think that is right, do you stand by that statement. ? No he didn't. That was a strawman that you invented. wrote ... "Labour are desperate to win over Hamas supporters, but they know they can't be as obvious about it as the last Labour leader. The Labour party dunces have little on offer except propaganda and insults, and claims that a vote for Galloway is a vote for the Tories" The suggestion here is very clear, that George Galloway is a Hamas supporter, that his party supports Hamas, and that those who support his party, and vote for his party are Hamas supporters.
The poster B-4 also clearly states that the Labour Party are keen to get the support / votes of Hamas supporters, DO YOU, or DOES ANYONE ELSE feel that is the kind of statement that an intelligent person would make. ? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 5, 2024 9:49:11 GMT
No he didn't. That was a strawman that you invented. wrote ... "Labour are desperate to win over Hamas supporters, but they know they can't be as obvious about it as the last Labour leader. The Labour party dunces have little on offer except propaganda and insults, and claims that a vote for Galloway is a vote for the Tories" The suggestion here is very clear, that George Galloway is a Hamas supporter, that his party supports Hamas, and that those who support his party, and vote for his party are Hamas supporters.
The poster B-4 also clearly states that the Labour Party are keen to get the support / votes of Hamas supporters, DO YOU, or DOES ANYONE ELSE feel that is the kind of statement that an intelligent person would make. ? Yawn...
Lie all you want, but he still didn't say what you claimed.
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Post by andrewbrown on May 5, 2024 10:05:22 GMT
You basically branded every British Muslim who are part of the electorate as "Hamas Supporters" Do you think that is right, do you stand by that statement. ? It's you who is associating every British Muslim with Hamas supporters. That is your propaganda and lies projected onto me. If Labour isn't supporting your hatred of Israel, where you once claimed they "reap what they sow" on your self-deleted account, a day after the terrorist attack, then you are in the wrong party. You can't just redefine something to suit your warped mind. Galloway is your man. I want the genocide stopped in Gaza. I don't hate Israel, but I do hate what Israel is doing. |
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Post by Bentley on May 5, 2024 10:08:19 GMT
Labour are desperate to win over Hamas supporters, but they know they can't be as obvious about it as the last Labour leader. The Labour party dunces have little on offer except propaganda and insults, and claims that a vote for Galloway is a vote for the Tories. They think they're being sly. Twisting the truth again I see, making things up, telling fibs. Do you actually know the difference between "a Hamas supporter" and a person who does not support what Hamas did on October 7th, but who opposes what Israel is doing in Gaza. I AM SUCH A PERSON ... I do not condone any form of terrorism which involves killing / murdering innocent people, including innocent Israeli's. But I condemn totally the cowardly, inhuman and unjustified actions of the IDF in Gaza. Branding the entire British Muslim electorate as "Hamas Supporters" means you’re not fit to debate anything, because you are deranged. Yup a ‘ never mind about Hamas , what about the IDF ? Hamas supporter. |
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Post by Bentley on May 5, 2024 10:10:45 GMT
It's you who is associating every British Muslim with Hamas supporters. That is your propaganda and lies projected onto me. If Labour isn't supporting your hatred of Israel, where you once claimed they "reap what they sow" on your self-deleted account, a day after the terrorist attack, then you are in the wrong party. You can't just redefine something to suit your warped mind. Galloway is your man. I want the genocide stopped in Gaza. I don't hate Israel, but I do hate what Israel is doing. Yup a virtue signalling ‘ hate the ‘ crime doesn’t mean hating the criminal ‘ Hamas supporter. |
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