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Post by om15 on May 3, 2024 17:10:13 GMT
Out of curiosity, and this is a genuine question, is/was your career in the public sector? People who work in the private sector do tend to be more practical in their political beliefs.
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Post by see2 on May 3, 2024 17:25:51 GMT
Incidentally "the nutters" have never run a Labour government.No, but we are seeing a minority SNP government being run by the Greens, even down to selecting their leader for them. What evidence do you have of this "ridiculous new employment conditions that Raynor has tried to get in".www.personneltoday.com/hr/employment-rights-bill-labour-angela-rayner-tuc-2023/Vat on private schooling will provide funds for the very important state education system.VAT on private schools will result in many of them closing and thus increasing demand on public schooling, in the unlikely event it does raise any revenue Labour will piss it up the wall with public sector pay rises. Why the insinuated lie about 'national bankruptcy"?Wait and see and all will be revealed. Not particularly interested in devolved issues in Scotland. Don't want any more cookies. so as the issue has already been dropped it probably doesn't matter. If you want to copy and paste a small example then please do. I suppose some private schools might close down others will just pass the extra cost onto parents. But that's capitalism for you. State schools, especially the early years are important for the country. A good early start lays the foundation for future academic success. "all will be revealed". Like the fact that Labour could enter the government when the previous Conservative government has failed again. That is the lesson from history. |
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Post by see2 on May 3, 2024 17:38:55 GMT
You are a product of your imagination. Like most self deluded Tories you don't live in the real world. I have always been centre-left in politics, long before New Labour came on the scene. I am still centre Left. I started my adult life with very little in financial terms, got married, fathered children, work my way up from a mediocre income to eventually just over tripling my early income, own my splendid bungalow with an extra large garage, in a desirable village along with two bank accounts. And I am still very much centre left in my political outlook. The more so thanks to the experience of New Labour in office. Why are you thanking 'Labour in office'? The Tories have been in office for the last 14 years, is that why you have a 'splendid bungalow, with a extra large garage in a leafy village, with two bank accounts, sounds like you're doing well under the Tories.  I am doing well because I pulled myself up by my own bootstraps. I was I suppose helped by Thatcher, she closed down so many factories on her way to creating 4 million unemployed the engineering work I used to do dried up, so instead of traveling ever increasing mileage in order to find work, I retrained into a professional position. A move I would recommend to anyone thinking about retraining into a better position. PS. There are apparently plenty of young females in training to be brickies looking forward to earning £30,000 a year. If I could have done no better I think I might have become a Brickie  |
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Post by see2 on May 3, 2024 17:40:59 GMT
Out of curiosity, and this is a genuine question, is/was your career in the public sector? People who work in the private sector do tend to be more practical in their political beliefs. I was self employed, offering my knowledge and training within the private sector. |
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Post by jonksy on May 3, 2024 19:19:58 GMT
Labour set to 'fall short of overall majority' as Keir Starmer dealt brutal blow..... Latest figures from the local elections have revealed that while Labour is on course to be the largest party, it is set to fall short of gaining an overall majority at the next general election. Provisional National Share Estimate has revealed that the Tories are on just 26 percent of the vote, a 19-point drop compared with the 2019 general election.
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Post by Bentley on May 3, 2024 19:33:16 GMT
After Reform splits the ‘ Conservative ‘ vote and tanks the Tories , we will have at least one term of identity politics and EU arse licking .
Hopefully it will galvanise the centre right into voting for a true centre right party next time around.
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Post by witchfinder on May 3, 2024 20:05:07 GMT
Labour set to 'fall short of overall majority' as Keir Starmer dealt brutal blow..... Latest figures from the local elections have revealed that while Labour is on course to be the largest party, it is set to fall short of gaining an overall majority at the next general election. Provisional National Share Estimate has revealed that the Tories are on just 26 percent of the vote, a 19-point drop compared with the 2019 general election.
This SKY News theory / ananysis has already been trashed by amongst other Sir John Curtis Its based entirely upon voting in todays elections and not on voting intentions in a general election. It also takes absolutely no account of Scotland, where the SNP vote has colapsed with Labour been the biggest winner of disaffected SNP voters. |
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Post by jonksy on May 3, 2024 21:03:07 GMT
Labour set to 'fall short of overall majority' as Keir Starmer dealt brutal blow..... Latest figures from the local elections have revealed that while Labour is on course to be the largest party, it is set to fall short of gaining an overall majority at the next general election. Provisional National Share Estimate has revealed that the Tories are on just 26 percent of the vote, a 19-point drop compared with the 2019 general election.
This SKY News theory / ananysis has already been trashed by amongst other Sir John Curtis Its based entirely upon voting in todays elections and not on voting intentions in a general election. It also takes absolutely no account of Scotland, where the SNP vote has colapsed with Labour been the biggest winner of disaffected SNP voters. FFS fiddles only a third of the electorate bothered to vote....There is only one election that counts and fishy rishy has yet to name the day... |
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Post by Pacifico on May 3, 2024 21:24:12 GMT
Labour set to 'fall short of overall majority' as Keir Starmer dealt brutal blow..... Latest figures from the local elections have revealed that while Labour is on course to be the largest party, it is set to fall short of gaining an overall majority at the next general election. Provisional National Share Estimate has revealed that the Tories are on just 26 percent of the vote, a 19-point drop compared with the 2019 general election. This SKY News theory / ananysis has already been trashed by amongst other Sir John Curtis Sir John Curtis forecasts that Labour have a 9% lead over the Tories - 9% is not insurmountable in a General Election.  |
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Post by witchfinder on May 3, 2024 21:40:01 GMT
This SKY News theory / ananysis has already been trashed by amongst other Sir John Curtis Sir John Curtis forecasts that Labour have a 9% lead over the Tories - 9% is not insurmountable in a General Election. No, that is not what John Curtis said, he said that basing a prediction on SKY News method is too simplistic, and he went on to explain why. This prediction is not based on opinion polling for a general election, and takes no account of them. The prediction is based purely on local elections in only England and Wales. Electoral Calculous for example now has its update for May, and it now predicts a Labour win in a general election with a majority of 294. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 3, 2024 21:49:42 GMT
Sir John Curtis forecasts that Labour have a 9% lead over the Tories - 9% is not insurmountable in a General Election. No, that is not what John Curtis said, he said that basing a prediction on SKY News method is too simplistic, and he went on to explain why. This prediction is not based on opinion polling for a general election, and takes no account of them. The prediction is based purely on local elections in only England and Wales. Electoral Calculous for example now has its update for May, and it now predicts a Labour win in a general election with a majority of 294. Sorry but that is EXACTLY what he said. I dont mind if you disagree with the guys analysis but trying to lie about what he said is rather daft.  |
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Post by witchfinder on May 3, 2024 22:10:29 GMT
He was commenting on SKY News predictions that Labour would not necessarily win with a majority, and he disagreed with their methodology.
Remember that basing any predictions on todays results excludes Scotland, where the SNP vote has colapsed and Labour is the main winner.
Electoral Calculos predictions are based on voting intentions at a general election ( not in local elections ) and they include the whole of the UK.
Their percentages are thus ... Conservatives 22.9% - Labour 43.4%
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Post by Pacifico on May 4, 2024 6:32:29 GMT
He was commenting on the BBC prediction - a 9% lead for Labour.
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Post by andrewbrown on May 4, 2024 6:43:06 GMT
I'd love a Labour LibDems coalition. Think that would be my ideal scenario.
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Post by jonksy on May 4, 2024 6:47:23 GMT
I'd love a Labour LibDems coalition. Think that would be my ideal scenario. The scenario of a madman.....More like...
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