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Post by morayloon on Apr 29, 2024 19:27:53 GMT
Indeed, but now McYousaf is history, perhaps the racism spewing out of Holyrood and Bute House will be toned down? Yes quite, we live in hope rather than expectation. What racism is that? Provide evidence |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 29, 2024 19:29:43 GMT
30% is not the view of the Scottish people. No, but I was making the point that, despite all that has gone on, the SNP remains the strongest supported party. Anyway support for the SNP does not equate to support for Independence, which is around 50%. Or, were you conflating the figure with support for ending devolution. If that is the case, you are way off the mark. The most recent Scottish Social Attitudes Study (2021) found only 8% wanted back to direct rule en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_Scottish_independence#Scottish_Social_Attitudes_SurveyThe dream for independence is over. Scotland dismissed the idea in a once in a lifetime referendum, the first since 1707.
And with the SNP pissing money up the wall, Scotland is fucking glad to still be in the UK.
If there were a referendum on devolution, devolution would be abolished and the infantile anglophobic SNAT fringe party would go back to the political wilderness.
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Post by morayloon on Apr 29, 2024 19:30:47 GMT
What a racist comment. What difference does the colour of someone's skin make? If you are going to comment on Scottish politics, please be sure of your facts (there's a first for everything). Stephen Flynn could not stand, even if he wanted to! He's an MP not an MSP The colour of their skin seemed very important to many in the MSM only a few months ago, in Wales the FM was at pains to direct everyone to the colour of his skin. AS regards Sunak most 'community leaders' talked as if it was the only important thing he had going for him. According to Nayaz Qazi, director of the Conservative Friends of India organisation, Sunak’s elevation is “a very proud moment for British Indians and all ethnic minority communities”. And, you have a problem with that? |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 29, 2024 19:37:53 GMT
Meanwhile the cost of devolution per year just for the extra politicians is over £10m. That's £10m which could have gone on housing the homeless, food banks, fixing potholes, imprisoning paedos and other scum. Devolution delivers nothing of benefit. Wastes taxpayers money all over the place. Requires extra civil servants to cover the red tape generated by it. Cost of the Scottish civil service? Gone up by over £600m www.heraldscotland.com/news/23709895.cost-scotlands-growing-army-civil-servants-soars-600m/Fucking scrap it. |
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Post by morayloon on Apr 29, 2024 19:53:11 GMT
There is in England because it is costing us a fortune. If 30% of the Scottish Electorate support the SNP is just goes to show how successful the lowering of educational standards in Scotland has been for the SNP. According to the latest (2022) BritishSocial Attitudes study, only 15% of English respondents favoured the ending of Devolution. Just how is it costing youa fortune? Only a fraction of money raised in Scotland returns to Scotland. |
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Post by morayloon on Apr 29, 2024 19:55:48 GMT
Typical!!! Ignore the views of the Scottish people. And, you wonder how the SNP is so popular (even the recent mishaps, support remains in the mid 30%) There is no appetite in Scotland for ending Devolution. The Scottish people are pissed off with the SNATS not the English... Whatever Scots think, about the SNP, they do not support any moves toward dissolving the Holyrood Parliament |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 29, 2024 19:58:35 GMT
The colour of their skin seemed very important to many in the MSM only a few months ago, in Wales the FM was at pains to direct everyone to the colour of his skin. AS regards Sunak most 'community leaders' talked as if it was the only important thing he had going for him. According to Nayaz Qazi, director of the Conservative Friends of India organisation, Sunak’s elevation is “a very proud moment for British Indians and all ethnic minority communities”. And, you have a problem with that? I have a problem with people saying the colour of the skin is not important when the world and his wife say that it is very important and make an issue of it. If we elect or choose people on merit the skin colour is of no import, if we look to have a diversity and inclusion it is important but we cannot have it all ways. Either skin colour has no bearing on attributes or it does; but diversity says exactly the opposite that skin color brings with it differences in terms of problem solving and ability to see things from a different perspective but those differences may in fact be negatives and no one seems to accept that possibility. |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 29, 2024 20:00:33 GMT
Indeed, but now McYousaf is history, perhaps the racism spewing out of Holyrood and Bute House will be toned down? Yes quite, we live in hope rather than expectation. What racism is that? Provide evidence I think we have all seen the clip, white white white. He obviously has a problem with that. |
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Post by morayloon on Apr 29, 2024 20:04:38 GMT
Ignorance yet again. Yousaf has been FM for over a year Which I admitted. So what's your excuse to wave his flag?....But of course any racists will do as long as they hate the English.. I keep asking all you Brit Nat posters where the racism or hatred lies within the movement. A trope you, and they, continually come up with but can't produce any evidence to back the accusations. Come on, give it a try. |
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Post by morayloon on Apr 29, 2024 20:38:47 GMT
Whenever I've thought about Scottish politics — which, admittedly, hasn't been often — the SNP has seemed to be a one-trick pony. Nevertheless, prompted by today's coverage of Humza Yousaf's resignation, I've been wondering who'd benefit. The thought that Scottish Labour is likely to pick up seats (as might Alba, the Conservatives and Greens) would destroy the Thomas predictions that Labour is facing a wipe out north of the Border, does make me smile... Well the first issue is of course that now he's gone the TORY motion of confidence in HIM as First Minister is toast
The only issue now is whether his departure will pull the teeth from te Labour one which was a constittional vote of no confidence in the government that would by definiton if lost precipitate a general election
The reality then is whether the SNP's divergence into green wokery and gender crap will find a home elsewhere (labour, certainly, Alba maybe not so much) and the obvious recipient of independence minded voters disgusted at Hamza's party, if there are any, is Alba
Of course, if they find a rousing replacement (where's the lol icon) then the SNP may find an election provides an INCREASED number of seats and a majority in the parliament, wouldn't that be interesting.
A thoughtful post, in amongst the rubbish spouted by the usual suspects. The Libs and a couple of Tories as well as Labour backed GRR. It wasn't just the SNP (7 voted against) and the Greens www.parliament.scot/chamber-and-committees/votes-and-motions/S6M-06459I don't think the Greens will vote on the motion. They'll probably abstain. The SNP doesn't need much of a push to widen the gap between them and Labour. A new leader could be the catalyst that will bring success from the present dismal outlook. To me, John Swinney, who seems to be being touted as the favourite to become FM, is not the man who will take the party back to the heady heights it rose to after the Referendum |
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Post by morayloon on Apr 29, 2024 20:49:38 GMT
What racism is that? Provide evidence I think we have all seen the clip, white white white. He obviously has a problem with that. I reckon you only see those remarks as racist because that is what you are looking for. He was pointing out that all, or most, top jobs were held by white people that is fact, not racist. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 29, 2024 21:01:16 GMT
The Scottish people are pissed off with the SNATS not the English... Whatever Scots think, about the SNP, they do not support any moves toward dissolving the Holyrood Parliament As we haven't had a vote yet, you are clueless on this matter. Hold the referendum. There hasn't been a referendum on devolution since the late 90's, many people paying for this abysmal waste of cash weren't old enough to vote at the time, and some weren't even born. It's been forced upon so many of us without our democratic consent. Hold a national vote. All of the UK. All the facts to hand including how much money we will save. Invite an abolition vote. Scrap devolution. Repeal all the laws produced by devolution. |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 29, 2024 21:16:08 GMT
I think we have all seen the clip, white white white. He obviously has a problem with that. I reckon you only see those remarks as racist because that is what you are looking for. He was pointing out that all, or most, top jobs were held by white people that is fact, not racist. Which is what I said he obviously has a problem with that which is peculiar in a country with 96% white population. If he named 20 senior positions then on chance alone they would all be white in fact the odds of a non white in a senior role is much smaller as ten years earlier Scotland was 98% white and to be in a senior role now would require at least that number of years experience. He obviously did not think it through in any detail. Now if he had said English, English, English then parliament would have been in uproar |
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Post by morayloon on Apr 29, 2024 21:32:19 GMT
Whatever Scots think, about the SNP, they do not support any moves toward dissolving the Holyrood Parliament As we haven't had a vote yet, you are clueless on this matter. Hold the referendum. There hasn't been a referendum on devolution since the late 90's, many people paying for this abysmal waste of cash weren't old enough to vote at the time, and some weren't even born. It's been forced upon so many of us without our democratic consent. Hold a national vote. All of the UK. All the facts to hand including how much money we will save. Invite an abolition vote. Scrap devolution. Repeal all the laws produced by devolution. As we have seen time and again, you are the clueless one. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 29, 2024 21:54:26 GMT
Says the man who loves dodgy polls and anglophobic parties.
You can produce any results you like with leading questions.
What matters are actual votes. And you've already lost.
Meanwhile shit devolution is costing the British taxpayer a fortune. Hold a nationwide referendum to scrap it.
Kill off the SNAT movement once and for all.
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