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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2022 6:29:53 GMT
Scotland is a sovereign country. A Sovereign country would not be reliant on the permission of England to do anything. That is the point. The UK is not a 'forced' union it is a union of, supposedly, like minded countries. This is not how it is playing out though and the Scottish people are beginning to see it. The UK unilaterally left the union of Europe but will not afford the same right to Scotland and are 'forcing' them to remain. That 'force' is all Sturgeon needs to get a whopping majority at the next GE This will come back to haunt 'England' at the next GE, because let's face it Scotland looks at England and sees us for what we are. I don't want Scotland to leave our union, but I can accept that they have the right to do so, should they wish. |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 27, 2022 7:00:28 GMT
A Sovereign country would not be reliant on the permission of England to do anything. That is the point. The UK is not a 'forced' union it is a union of, supposedly, like minded countries. This is not how it is playing out though and the Scottish people are beginning to see it. The UK unilaterally left the union of Europe but will not afford the same right to Scotland and are 'forcing' them to remain. That 'force' is all Sturgeon needs to get a whopping majority at the next GE This will come back to haunt 'England' at the next GE, because let's face it Scotland looks at England and sees us for what we are. I don't want Scotland to leave our union, but I can accept that they have the right to do so, should they wish. Scotland have already been granted a referendum. SNATs are like remainers. They keep wanting a referendum until they get the 'correct' answer. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 27, 2022 7:04:49 GMT
A Sovereign country would not be reliant on the permission of England to do anything. That is the point. The UK is not a 'forced' union it is a union of, supposedly, like minded countries. This is not how it is playing out though and the Scottish people are beginning to see it. The UK unilaterally left the union of Europe but will not afford the same right to Scotland and are 'forcing' them to remain. That 'force' is all Sturgeon needs to get a whopping majority at the next GE This will come back to haunt 'England' at the next GE, because let's face it Scotland looks at England and sees us for what we are. I don't want Scotland to leave our union, but I can accept that they have the right to do so, should they wish. Red rum your missing out on a couple of things. 1 We had a referendum and the vote was leave so the govenment left to wish of the Majority of people who d a referemdum for scotland to leave the uk most voters voted remain so the Govenment allowed them to remain . 2 Had a referendum to leave the uk most people who voted , voted to remain so the Govenment allowed scotland to remain not that i think the referemdums was totaly Democratic has the referemdums was treated like a GE instead of a regional election like council elections. if trated like council elections Scotland , Ni ireland and even london would been able to remain in the Eu because thats what the marjorty of people wanted in them regions . Also if traeted like a council election morre citizens of the uk would been able to vote. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 27, 2022 7:19:37 GMT
That is the point. The UK is not a 'forced' union it is a union of, supposedly, like minded countries. This is not how it is playing out though and the Scottish people are beginning to see it. The UK unilaterally left the union of Europe but will not afford the same right to Scotland and are 'forcing' them to remain. That 'force' is all Sturgeon needs to get a whopping majority at the next GE This will come back to haunt 'England' at the next GE, because let's face it Scotland looks at England and sees us for what we are. I don't want Scotland to leave our union, but I can accept that they have the right to do so, should they wish. Red rum your missing out on a couple of things. 1 We had a referendum and the vote was leave so the govenment left to wish of the Majority of people who d a referemdum for scotland to leave the uk most voters voted remain so the Govenment allowed them to remain . 2 Had a referendum to leave the uk most people who voted , voted to remain so the Govenment allowed scotland to remain not that i think the referemdums was totaly Democratic has the referemdums was treated like a GE instead of a regional election like council elections. if trated like council elections Scotland , Ni ireland and even london would been able to remain in the Eu because thats what the marjorty of people wanted in them regions . Also if traeted like a council election morre citizens of the uk would been able to vote. Buccaneer the remainers want a another referemdum because It was won on lies remain want a referemdum because leaving has turned into a total disasater . Remains want a referendum because polls suggest the marjority of people to remain after 6 yrs |
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Post by Toreador on Nov 27, 2022 7:48:19 GMT
Red rum your missing out on a couple of things. 1 We had a referendum and the vote was leave so the govenment left to wish of the Majority of people who d a referemdum for scotland to leave the uk most voters voted remain so the Govenment allowed them to remain . 2 Had a referendum to leave the uk most people who voted , voted to remain so the Govenment allowed scotland to remain not that i think the referemdums was totaly Democratic has the referemdums was treated like a GE instead of a regional election like council elections. if trated like council elections Scotland , Ni ireland and even london would been able to remain in the Eu because thats what the marjorty of people wanted in them regions . Also if traeted like a council election morre citizens of the uk would been able to vote. Buccaneer the remainers want a another referemdum because It was won on lies remain want a referemdum because leaving has turned into a total disasater . Remains want a referendum because polls suggest the marjority of people to remain after 6 yrs Remainers want another referendum because they're still pissed off at losing, whether it was 6 years, six months or six hours. They spend their time whinging in newspapers and on forums, you are a major whinger. |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 27, 2022 7:55:10 GMT
Red rum your missing out on a couple of things. 1 We had a referendum and the vote was leave so the govenment left to wish of the Majority of people who d a referemdum for scotland to leave the uk most voters voted remain so the Govenment allowed them to remain . 2 Had a referendum to leave the uk most people who voted , voted to remain so the Govenment allowed scotland to remain not that i think the referemdums was totaly Democratic has the referemdums was treated like a GE instead of a regional election like council elections. if trated like council elections Scotland , Ni ireland and even london would been able to remain in the Eu because thats what the marjorty of people wanted in them regions . Also if traeted like a council election morre citizens of the uk would been able to vote. Buccaneer the remainers want a another referemdum because It was won on lies remain want a referemdum because leaving has turned into a total disasater . Remains want a referendum because polls suggest the marjority of people to remain after 6 yrs Remainers want a referendum until they get the desired result. They now want to soften the rest of the electorate up because they're telling all and sundry that every problem Britain faces is down to Brexit. Just like the SNATS they lost a democratic vote and want(ed) to run it again and again until they got/get the desired result. They (remainers) now know they won't get another referendum in the short-term at least, so they blame everything from Covid to the war in Ukraine on Brexit to sow doubt amongst the rest of the population. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 27, 2022 7:55:19 GMT
A Sovereign country would not be reliant on the permission of England to do anything. That is the point. The UK is not a 'forced' union it is a union of, supposedly, like minded countries. This is not how it is playing out though and the Scottish people are beginning to see it. The UK unilaterally left the union of Europe but will not afford the same right to Scotland and are 'forcing' them to remain. That 'force' is all Sturgeon needs to get a whopping majority at the next GE Which could not happen if they were a sovereign country. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 27, 2022 7:57:47 GMT
I think it's now clear that referenda are a bad idea since the losers immediately demand another.
Let's have no more of this nonsense, it's getting boring now.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 27, 2022 8:09:37 GMT
I think it's nowsilly clear that referenda are a bad idea since the losers immediately demand another. Let's have no more of this nonsense, it's getting boring now. If remainers want another referenda how can they think its a bad ides? Silly man. Also didnt fingerarge say Iif they lost he would keep trying upto they won |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 27, 2022 8:13:29 GMT
Buccaneer the remainers want a another referemdum because It was won on lies remain want a referemdum because leaving has turned into a total disasater . Remains want a referendum because polls suggest the marjority of people to remain after 6 yrs Remainers want another referendum because they're still pissed off at losing, whether it was 6 years, six months or six hours. They spend their time whinging in newspapers and on forums, you are a major whinger. Yea ok forget what the Marjority seem to want now thats a good anti democratic man . Can i ask you , you lived in france a number of years how long for and what age you come back |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 27, 2022 8:16:58 GMT
Buccaneer the remainers want a another referemdum because It was won on lies remain want a referemdum because leaving has turned into a total disasater . Remains want a referendum because polls suggest the marjority of people to remain after 6 yrs Remainers want a referendum until they get the desired result. They now want to soften the rest of the electorate up because they're telling all and sundry that every problem Britain faces is down to Brexit. Just like the SNATS they lost a democratic vote and want(ed) to run it again and again until they got/get the desired result. They (remainers) now know they won't get another referendum in the short-term at least, so they blame everything from Covid to the war in Ukraine on Brexit to sow doubt amongst the rest of the population. DINT fingerarge say he wanted REFERENDUM If we voted to stay? |
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Post by Toreador on Nov 27, 2022 8:18:33 GMT
I think it's nowsilly clear that referenda are a bad idea since the losers immediately demand another. Let's have no more of this nonsense, it's getting boring now. If remainers want another referenda how can they think its a bad ides? Silly man. Also didnt fingerarge say Iif they lost he would keep trying upto they won I'll let him know, he may change his name.   |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 27, 2022 8:33:44 GMT
If remainers want another referenda how can they think its a bad ides? Silly man. Also didnt fingerarge say Iif they lost he would keep trying upto they won I'll let him know, he may change his name. He should Its not a good British name old chap Bloody foreigners wanting to change our country to suit his needs. |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 27, 2022 9:49:31 GMT
Remainers want a referendum until they get the desired result. They now want to soften the rest of the electorate up because they're telling all and sundry that every problem Britain faces is down to Brexit. Just like the SNATS they lost a democratic vote and want(ed) to run it again and again until they got/get the desired result. They (remainers) now know they won't get another referendum in the short-term at least, so they blame everything from Covid to the war in Ukraine on Brexit to sow doubt amongst the rest of the population. DINT fingerarge say he wanted REFERENDUM If we voted to stay? No idea. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2022 10:08:35 GMT
That is the point. The UK is not a 'forced' union it is a union of, supposedly, like minded countries. This is not how it is playing out though and the Scottish people are beginning to see it. The UK unilaterally left the union of Europe but will not afford the same right to Scotland and are 'forcing' them to remain. That 'force' is all Sturgeon needs to get a whopping majority at the next GE This will come back to haunt 'England' at the next GE, because let's face it Scotland looks at England and sees us for what we are. I don't want Scotland to leave our union, but I can accept that they have the right to do so, should they wish. Scotland have already been granted a referendum. SNATs are like remainers. They keep wanting a referendum until they get the 'correct' answer. They were promised that the UK would remain in the EU. What do you think would happen if they exercised their 'right' as a free country to declare independence? |
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