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Post by jonksy on Apr 29, 2024 8:03:12 GMT
UK will 'not take back asylum seekers from Ireland until France takes back Channel migrants' Ireland's government is pledging emergency legislation to send asylum seekers that cross into the country from Northern Ireland back to the UK in the wake of the Rwanda bill. The UK will not take back asylum seekers who cross the border into Ireland "until the EU accepts that we can send them back to France", according to a government source. The comment comes amid an escalating row between Dublin and Westminster over the Irish government's plans for new legislation to enable asylum seekers who cross the border from Northern Ireland to be sent back to the UK. Irish justice minister Helen McEntee told a parliamentary committee last week that more than 80% of recent arrivals in Ireland came via the land border with Northern Ireland.
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Post by wapentake on Apr 29, 2024 8:17:54 GMT
Doubles (standards) all round,it's all just for the media we won’t do anything the eu won’t except talk a lot of hot air,and they will keep coming.
Nero fiddles whilst Rome burns springs to mind.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 29, 2024 8:19:39 GMT
Well maybe Ireland have just found a solution to our problem, it will take Irish (Mick) lawyers to find a law in one week to send back illegals that's taken the English lawyers years and years, and they still haven't found one ........... Wonder who the thick Micks are.
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 29, 2024 8:36:28 GMT
Well maybe Ireland have just found a solution to our problem, it will take Irish (Mick) lawyers to find a law in one week to send back illegals that's taken the English lawyers years and years, and they still haven't found one ........... Wonder who the thick Micks are. The High Court in Ireland ruled a while back that Ireland couldn't return asylum seekers back to the UK because they don't consider Rwanda a 'safe country'. Of course, the Irish government will try and work around this, but they seem to want their cake and eat it. After all, they wanted the border open during Brexit negotiations but don't want the responsibility (like France who traffic illegals over here), to deal with it. Maybe these illegals can help support Leprechaun economics, and multiculturalism in Ireland as there surely are too many white folk over there. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 29, 2024 8:42:15 GMT
Well maybe Ireland have just found a solution to our problem, it will take Irish (Mick) lawyers to find a law in one week to send back illegals that's taken the English lawyers years and years, and they still haven't found one ........... Wonder who the thick Micks are. The High Court in Ireland ruled a while back that Ireland couldn't return asylum seekers back to the UK because they don't consider Rwanda a 'safe country'. Of course, the Irish government will try and work around this, but they seem to want their cake and eat it. After all, they wanted the border open during Brexit negotiations but don't want the responsibility (like France who traffic illegals over here), to deal with it. Maybe these illegals can help support Leprechaun economics, and multiculturalism in Ireland as there surely are too many white folk over there. They didn't realise that taking a swipe at the Rwanda plan just so they could play politics with Sunak has spectacularly backfired on them, they were trying to be outraged lefties by saying Rwanda was unsafe, now they've shot themselves in the foot ........ LOL |
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Post by wapentake on Apr 29, 2024 8:57:12 GMT
The High Court in Ireland ruled a while back that Ireland couldn't return asylum seekers back to the UK because they don't consider Rwanda a 'safe country'. Of course, the Irish government will try and work around this, but they seem to want their cake and eat it. After all, they wanted the border open during Brexit negotiations but don't want the responsibility (like France who traffic illegals over here), to deal with it. Maybe these illegals can help support Leprechaun economics, and multiculturalism in Ireland as there surely are too many white folk over there. They didn't realise that taking a swipe at the Rwanda plan just so they could play politics with Sunak has spectacularly backfired on them, they were trying to be outraged lefties by saying Rwanda was unsafe, now they've shot themselves in the foot ........ LOL In the kneecap surely  |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 29, 2024 13:15:27 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 29, 2024 13:17:55 GMT
Wait and see, there will be a news/media blackout on what's going on in Ireland, because they don't want it spreading and causing unrest all over the UK. |
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Post by patman post on Apr 29, 2024 13:38:59 GMT
Wait and see, there will be a news/media blackout on what's going on in Ireland, because they don't want it spreading and causing unrest all over the UK. I'm not saying you're wrong — but who is going to impose or orchestrate "a news/media blackout on what's going on in Ireland"...? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 29, 2024 13:46:24 GMT
Wait and see, there will be a news/media blackout on what's going on in Ireland, because they don't want it spreading and causing unrest all over the UK. I'm not saying you're wrong — but who is going to impose or orchestrate "a news/media blackout on what's going on in Ireland"...? The 'Establishment', the same establishment who isn't even being truthful or honest about how many illegals are actually entering this country, there is a lot of unrest all over the country with these illegal migrants, and the only way you'll hear of it is through Facebook or social media outlets, the mainstream news/media outlets have had orders to NOT report the unrest for fear of violence and civil unrest .....( In my opinion) |
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Post by patman post on Apr 29, 2024 14:07:45 GMT
I'm not saying you're wrong — but who is going to impose or orchestrate "a news/media blackout on what's going on in Ireland"...? The 'Establishment', the same establishment who isn't even being truthful or honest about how many illegals are actually entering this country, there is a lot of unrest all over the country with these illegal migrants, and the only way you'll hear of it is through Facebook or social media outlets, the mainstream news/media outlets have had orders to NOT report the unrest for fear of violence and civil unrest .....( In my opinion) But who is giving these orders?
I am aware that most of the print and commercial broadcast news media are Tory and Right supporting, but that's the choice of their proprietors. They're the ones that give orders to their staffs.
Even the government can only advise and request the media's cooperation if, for example, coverage and/or speculation on some topic be judged damaging to national security...
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 29, 2024 14:14:41 GMT
The 'Establishment', the same establishment who isn't even being truthful or honest about how many illegals are actually entering this country, there is a lot of unrest all over the country with these illegal migrants, and the only way you'll hear of it is through Facebook or social media outlets, the mainstream news/media outlets have had orders to NOT report the unrest for fear of violence and civil unrest .....( In my opinion) But who is giving these orders?
I am aware that most of the print and commercial broadcast news media are Tory and Right supporting, but that's the choice of their proprietors. They're the ones that give orders to their staffs.
Even the government can only advise and request the media's cooperation if, for example, coverage and/or speculation on some topic be judged damaging to national security...
I've already told you the 'Establishment' and I don't mean weak as piss water Sunak, I mean the REAL powers.
" The Establishment a group or class of people having institutional authority within a society, esp those who control the civil service, the government, the armed forces, and the Church: usually identified with a conservative outlook".
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Post by sandypine on Apr 29, 2024 14:17:17 GMT
Wait and see, there will be a news/media blackout on what's going on in Ireland, because they don't want it spreading and causing unrest all over the UK. I'm not saying you're wrong — but who is going to impose or orchestrate "a news/media blackout on what's going on in Ireland"...? We can see it in action, that was a big turnout at Newton Mount Kennedy and if there has been unrest with riot police in attendance that seems to get little coverage on the MSM which seems to be wall to wall Gaza and its associated repercussions. Ireland is our neighbour with whom we have had, and still have, a special relationship. If Irish people are unhappy it should be big news in the UK. When Biden was there we got the works, when referenda have happened we hear all about it, when Brexit has an 'effect' and the Taoiseach speaks it is news. Who does it realistically at the moment is not critical but noticing our news, and its editorial importance, is being directed seems too obvious to deny. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 29, 2024 14:21:03 GMT
Even though no planes have taken off yet the Rwanda plan is already working as a deterrent, much to the annoyance of the French and Irish. And to add to their annoyance, Denmark The Netherlands and Germany who have seen it's working as a deterrent, are also considering a UK style Rwanda plan of their own.
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Post by patman post on Apr 29, 2024 14:33:15 GMT
But who is giving these orders?
I am aware that most of the print and commercial broadcast news media are Tory and Right supporting, but that's the choice of their proprietors. They're the ones that give orders to their staffs.
Even the government can only advise and request the media's cooperation if, for example, coverage and/or speculation on some topic be judged damaging to national security...
I've already told you the 'Establishment' and I don't mean weak as piss water Sunak, I mean the REAL powers.
" The Establishment a group or class of people having institutional authority within a society, esp those who control the civil service, the government, the armed forces, and the Church: usually identified with a conservative outlook".
That's just a dictionary definition of a word.
Although I dislike the guy, I think Owen Jones got it when he wrote:
Definitions of "the establishment" share one thing in common: they are always pejorative. Rightwingers tend to see it as the national purveyor of a rampant, morally corrupting social liberalism; for the left, it is more likely to mean a network of public-school and Oxbridge boys dominating the key institutions of British political life.
[.........................] Today's establishment is made up – as it has always been – of powerful groups that need to protect their position in a democracy in which almost the entire adult population has the right to vote. The establishment represents an attempt on behalf of these groups to "manage" democracy, to make sure that it does not threaten their own interests. In this respect, it might be seen as a firewall that insulates them from the wider population.
In other words, depending on the concern, various groups that share similar opinions do what they can to counter opposition...
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