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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 28, 2024 10:20:14 GMT
And silence of course from the usual lefty trolls... The lefties wont mind Ireland kicking them out, it's only England they hate, if we tried that move you'd hear the outraged lefties screaming. This may be the first time ever I have agreed with you. All The Best
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 28, 2024 10:23:17 GMT
As people like you who have been telling us for years, they've ended up in Eire via UK, like many of ours end up in the UK from France, and therefore it is our problem to deal with them. Therefore, going by this kind of logic (you can't have it both ways), they are Ireland's problem. People like me? Wow, I have an ilk! 😂 Actually my point is that you can't have a national solution to a global problem. Ireland's solution will be no more effective than our own. Rishi just looks like Canute trying to turn the tide. Oh, you didn't know. It's interesting that you have a dig at Rishi when it is the Irish government this thread is about who are up in arms now because they have alleged asylum seekers walking over their border. Then again, that's what you're ilk does.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 28, 2024 10:40:38 GMT
And silence of course from the usual lefty trolls... The lefties wont mind Ireland kicking them out, it's only England they hate, if we tried that move you'd hear the outraged lefties screaming. Good to see Ireland getting a dose of their own medicine for a change...See how the usual snowflakes from the left are keepong silent....LOL.....It couldn't happen to a better bunch of arseholes.....Haven't the right to demand anything they were the ones who wanted the border to supposedly protect them....Karma at it's best...
Furious Ireland demands UK takes back illegal migrants after influx sparked by Rwanda bill.....
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 28, 2024 11:00:07 GMT
The lefties wont mind Ireland kicking them out, it's only England they hate, if we tried that move you'd hear the outraged lefties screaming. Good to see Ireland getting a dose of their own medicine for a change...See how the usual snowflakes from the left are keepong silent....LOL.....It couldn't happen to a better bunch of arseholes.....Haven't the right to demand anything they were the ones who wanted the border to supposedly protect them....Karma at it's best...
Furious Ireland demands UK takes back illegal migrants after influx sparked by Rwanda bill.....
Wait and see this weak government crumbling and squirming to Ireland, Sunak will be saying .... 'yes send them all back to England on the next Ferry, or plane, the UK tax payers will foot the bill, don't worry' ... this government just like Blair and Labour are shit scared of upsetting Ireland and France, just wait and see, it's fuckin pathetic to watch.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 28, 2024 11:03:41 GMT
Good to see Ireland getting a dose of their own medicine for a change...See how the usual snowflakes from the left are keepong silent....LOL.....It couldn't happen to a better bunch of arseholes.....Haven't the right to demand anything they were the ones who wanted the border to supposedly protect them....Karma at it's best...
Furious Ireland demands UK takes back illegal migrants after influx sparked by Rwanda bill.....
Wait and see this weak government crumbling and squirming to Ireland, Sunak will be saying .... 'yes send them all back to England on the next Ferry, or plane, the UK tax payers will foot the bill, don't worry' ... this government just like Blair and Labour are shit scared of upsetting Ireland and France, just wait and see, it's fuckin pathetic to watch. Absolutely, and Sir Bum Licker will be falling over himself to appease when Labour get voted in.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 28, 2024 15:58:56 GMT
Structures built by the old enemy now being used by the new........This could have all been stopped in 1 week but they chose to ignore it, as a result our laws and traditions have been changed our streets are no longer safe, let them come but doctors , nurses and teachers not benefit takers. People smuggling gangs are hiding migrants in abandoned Nazi bunkers before treacherous journeys across the English Channel on overcrowded dinghies..... www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13359071/People-smuggling-gangs-hiding-migrants-abandoned-Nazi-bunkers.html
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Post by Bentley on Apr 28, 2024 16:03:21 GMT
If Ireland starts forcing illegal immigrants into the UK via the the non border then the UK should see it as a security issue and create a border .
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Post by sandypine on Apr 28, 2024 16:57:39 GMT
Is that not any Citizen of the republic? That was certainly not the case for Juan Charles De Menezes was it An Argentinian, in Britain on a TOURIST visa, working illegally in London as an electrician. Whether he was one or not i do not know. I will for the time being give his corpse the benefit of the doubt, and let us say he was, at the time, of sufficient skill and training to match my brother’s qualification as one gained through an apprenticeship at British Steel, Llanwern. The point here is that he was working in the UK illegally And the day after that useless piece of shit who rose to run the Met off the back of her order to shoot him gave that order, her boss IAN Blair stood up and denounced him as a terrorist who was both an illegal immigrant AND working in Lindon’s Black Economy Illegally He had to reverse all of that in a rather embarrassing fashion after it was revealed by several newspapers, but i must have read it in The Guardian, because i didn’t pay to read it, that he had, a month or so before his execution, heard from neighbours who also pursued work in the black and grey economy that he should, because he had got wind of having been rumbled as an illegal, find a way to enter the Irish Republic, and register his (re)entry to the UK from there, because the agreements then in place allowed anyone to enter the UK from Eire and use an arrangement in place from the days when we used Irish Navvies as unskilled manual labour to gain tbe tight to legally work in the UK for six months Those were the words i read, almost verbatim, and off the back of them the Met had to admit that he was neither a terrorist NOR at tbe time of his killing was he illegally in the UK I can’t imagine them saying that if their lawyers told them that only applied to Irish Citizens can you Not least because at the time we were in the EEC which allowed such movement, although admittedly not to the degree the infamous Lisbon treaty would permit a few years later While checking dates on that i tripped over a page revealing the lawyers trying to get a murder rap on the trigger happy buggers who shot him worked for Blair’s bitch Cherie What a fucking surprise that was. Not If he was on a tourist visa he was in the UK legally but he was working illegally. I think many of us fail to remember how difficult it was at the time so close to 7/7 and if he had turned out to be a bona fida threat then many of us would be cheering the same people who shot him. The blame lies in our migration policies since Rushdie when the writing was on the wall, certainly in the first instance and that was confirmed by 9/11.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 28, 2024 17:53:46 GMT
It is rather hilarious that the boat used on the taxi service operated by Border Force for the illegals in the dinghies is called 'Defender' - not sure what they are supposed to be defending, it is certainly not our Borders.
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 28, 2024 20:07:58 GMT
That was certainly not the case for Juan Charles De Menezes was it An Argentinian, in Britain on a TOURIST visa, working illegally in London as an electrician. Whether he was one or not i do not know. I will for the time being give his corpse the benefit of the doubt, and let us say he was, at the time, of sufficient skill and training to match my brother’s qualification as one gained through an apprenticeship at British Steel, Llanwern. The point here is that he was working in the UK illegally And the day after that useless piece of shit who rose to run the Met off the back of her order to shoot him gave that order, her boss IAN Blair stood up and denounced him as a terrorist who was both an illegal immigrant AND working in Lindon’s Black Economy Illegally He had to reverse all of that in a rather embarrassing fashion after it was revealed by several newspapers, but i must have read it in The Guardian, because i didn’t pay to read it, that he had, a month or so before his execution, heard from neighbours who also pursued work in the black and grey economy that he should, because he had got wind of having been rumbled as an illegal, find a way to enter the Irish Republic, and register his (re)entry to the UK from there, because the agreements then in place allowed anyone to enter the UK from Eire and use an arrangement in place from the days when we used Irish Navvies as unskilled manual labour to gain tbe tight to legally work in the UK for six months Those were the words i read, almost verbatim, and off the back of them the Met had to admit that he was neither a terrorist NOR at tbe time of his killing was he illegally in the UK I can’t imagine them saying that if their lawyers told them that only applied to Irish Citizens can you Not least because at the time we were in the EEC which allowed such movement, although admittedly not to the degree the infamous Lisbon treaty would permit a few years later While checking dates on that i tripped over a page revealing the lawyers trying to get a murder rap on the trigger happy buggers who shot him worked for Blair’s bitch Cherie What a fucking surprise that was. Not If he was on a tourist visa he was in the UK legally but he was working illegally. I think many of us fail to remember how difficult it was at the time so close to 7/7 and if he had turned out to be a bona fida threat then many of us would be cheering the same people who shot him. The blame lies in our migration policies since Rushdie when the writing was on the wall, certainly in the first instance and that was confirmed by 9/11. I went back digging and unsurprisingly can't find the article I read. The accounts available now say he had come here on a STUDENT visa which had expired. Even more reason to pop across St George's Channel ...
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Post by jonksy on Apr 28, 2024 20:32:48 GMT
If he was on a tourist visa he was in the UK legally but he was working illegally. I think many of us fail to remember how difficult it was at the time so close to 7/7 and if he had turned out to be a bona fida threat then many of us would be cheering the same people who shot him. The blame lies in our migration policies since Rushdie when the writing was on the wall, certainly in the first instance and that was confirmed by 9/11. I went back digging and unsurprisingly can't find the article I read. The accounts available now say he had come here on a STUDENT visa which had expired. Even more reason to pop across St George's Channel ... I found this on Google John.....It seems that there are conflicting reports and both you and Sandy are correct....
Mr de Menezes was shot during a police anti-terrorist operation. Mr de Menezes was a Brazilian national who came to the UK as a student in 2002 and subsequently obtained employment as an electrician. He lived with two of his cousins at 17 Scotia Road, Tulse Hill, London.
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 29, 2024 6:51:40 GMT
UK attacks EU double standards on migrantsBritain refuses to take back asylum seekers until France does same for those crossing Channel www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/04/28/ireland-plans-send-asylum-seekers-back-uk/
It's a bit late for this government to grow a spine, but nonetheless it's finally backed itself against the EU's double standards.
“We won’t accept any asylum returns from the EU via Ireland until the EU accepts that we can send them back to France. We are fully focused on operationalising our Rwanda scheme, and will continue working with the French to stop the boats from crossing the Channel.”
Shame they couldn't have shown some backbone long ago, they wouldn't be on a hiding to nothing now if they had.
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 29, 2024 6:57:51 GMT
I just listened to a report about this and I jest not I was laughing my head off, I mean the irony of it is beautiful. Ireland, an EU state complaining about illegals entering Ireland from the UK, after they have travelled across a borderless EU. And have you noticed, these people are poor refugees when they land on English beaches, but criminals if they cross from Northern Ireland back into the EU!I think the authorities in Northern Ireland should put just as much effort into stopping these poor refugees from crossing the border (back into the EU lol) as the French authorities do in stopping them cross the channel. And that is the hypocrisy here, isn't it. The EU refers to them as "irregular immigrants" because apparently it hurt someone's feelings once to call them what they are - criminals. If they enter one country illegally they are criminals. If they then illegally cross through half of Europe to illegally cross The Channel to illegally enter the UK they are SERIAL CRIMINALS... ...end of. If their Refugee / Asylum claim had any merit at all they would not need to enter the UK illegally. That they do so prima facie tells me they know, for a fact, they have no legitimate claim to Asylum. They are NOT refugees. They ARE criminals. We should therefore treat them like criminals. For the record, I think the Rwanda plan is stupid beyond belief. We have British Overseas Territory Islands that are currently uninhabited - if we ship them there they are, technically in Britain, but I am willing to be that after a few months on one of these ISLANDS they'd be willing to go home. All The Best Think the government's policy is better than yours. Yours is open to all types of claims. I mean, uninhabited islands. So what, essentially they are detained with no prospects whatsoever? At least the gov.'s has a humane draw to it that it aids to support asylum seekers in Rwanda with job opportunity, education and other prospects rather than detained on an uninhabited island.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 29, 2024 6:58:25 GMT
UK attacks EU double standards on migrantsBritain refuses to take back asylum seekers until France does same for those crossing Channel www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/04/28/ireland-plans-send-asylum-seekers-back-uk/
It's a bit late for this government to grow a spine, but nonetheless it's finally backed itself against the EU's double standards.
“We won’t accept any asylum returns from the EU via Ireland until the EU accepts that we can send them back to France. We are fully focused on operationalising our Rwanda scheme, and will continue working with the French to stop the boats from crossing the Channel.”
Shame they couldn't have shown some backbone long ago, they wouldn't be on a hiding to nothing now if they had. Well they say that - lets see if they stick to it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2024 7:10:20 GMT
It's weak gesturing. The Tories aren't really any different to Labour. We see this by those who defect and how they boot people out for being Conservative.
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