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Post by Ripley on Apr 21, 2024 18:03:26 GMT
And you are refusing to face the fact that this man was intent on provocation, as evidenced by his subsequent planning of a future confrontation. Again - if you are the type to be provoked by a Jew crossing the road should you really be allowed out of secure accommodation? You seem to think it is a normal reaction for people to be provoked into violence by a Jew crossing the road - it is not and should never be. Again, the Jewish man in question was not 'crossing the road'. He was crossing a protest march. It is certainly not a normal reaction for people to be provoked into violence by a Jew crossing the road, but as I have pointed out ad nauseam, no matter how much you want to downplay his intent, 'crossing the road' by no means covers what this man was doing. This is made abundantly clear by the fact that, in a video presentation, he stated his intention of crossing another protest march and invited others to join him doing it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2024 18:37:39 GMT
Again - if you are the type to be provoked by a Jew crossing the road should you really be allowed out of secure accommodation? You seem to think it is a normal reaction for people to be provoked into violence by a Jew crossing the road - it is not and should never be. Again, the Jewish man in question was not 'crossing the road'. He was crossing a protest march. It is certainly not a normal reaction for people to be provoked into violence by a Jew crossing the road, but as I have pointed out ad nauseam, no matter how much you want to downplay his intent, 'crossing the road' by no means covers what this man was doing. This is made abundantly clear by the fact that, in a video presentation, he stated his intention of crossing another protest march and invited others to join him doing it. Whatever he was doing, he should have beeen able to do so without harassment from the Police, whilst he was not breaking the law. |
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Post by patman post on Apr 21, 2024 19:05:46 GMT
Again - if you are the type to be provoked by a Jew crossing the road should you really be allowed out of secure accommodation? You seem to think it is a normal reaction for people to be provoked into violence by a Jew crossing the road - it is not and should never be. Again, the Jewish man in question was not 'crossing the road'. He was crossing a protest march. It is certainly not a normal reaction for people to be provoked into violence by a Jew crossing the road, but as I have pointed out ad nauseam, no matter how much you want to downplay his intent, 'crossing the road' by no means covers what this man was doing. This is made abundantly clear by the fact that, in a video presentation, he stated his intention of crossing another protest march and invited others to join him doing it. Wouldn’t the sea of marching Lefty Reds have parted to let him cross…? |
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Post by Ripley on Apr 21, 2024 19:20:08 GMT
Again, the Jewish man in question was not 'crossing the road'. He was crossing a protest march. It is certainly not a normal reaction for people to be provoked into violence by a Jew crossing the road, but as I have pointed out ad nauseam, no matter how much you want to downplay his intent, 'crossing the road' by no means covers what this man was doing. This is made abundantly clear by the fact that, in a video presentation, he stated his intention of crossing another protest march and invited others to join him doing it. Whatever he was doing, he should have beeen able to do so without harassment from the Police, whilst he was not breaking the law. Ah, but causing a public disturbance is breaking the law, isn't it? And that is what he was intent on doing. The police were trying to manage the situation and prevent a riot. |
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Post by Ripley on Apr 21, 2024 19:23:31 GMT
Again, the Jewish man in question was not 'crossing the road'. He was crossing a protest march. It is certainly not a normal reaction for people to be provoked into violence by a Jew crossing the road, but as I have pointed out ad nauseam, no matter how much you want to downplay his intent, 'crossing the road' by no means covers what this man was doing. This is made abundantly clear by the fact that, in a video presentation, he stated his intention of crossing another protest march and invited others to join him doing it. Wouldn’t the sea of marching Lefty Reds have parted to let him cross…? That's a risk whose odds the police didn't like, which is why they asked him to step aside for a bit. |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 21, 2024 19:26:15 GMT
Again, the Jewish man in question was not 'crossing the road'. He was crossing a protest march. It is certainly not a normal reaction for people to be provoked into violence by a Jew crossing the road, but as I have pointed out ad nauseam, no matter how much you want to downplay his intent, 'crossing the road' by no means covers what this man was doing. This is made abundantly clear by the fact that, in a video presentation, he stated his intention of crossing another protest march and invited others to join him doing it. Wouldn’t the sea of marching Lefty Reds have parted to let him cross…? Maybe in his book, but probably less likely in the new one as the police were testament too. |
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Post by Ripley on Apr 21, 2024 19:40:02 GMT
Wouldn’t the sea of marching Lefty Reds have parted to let him cross…? Maybe in his book, but probably less likely in in the new one as the police were testament too. People who march in protests are doing it because they have strong feelings about something. In situations like these, there is always an element of risk. Human nature being what it is, it isn't safe to assume that all protesters are in the middle and rational. It has to be anticipated that some could be leaning towards a more extreme position, and who wants to take the chance that some not so rational participant might lose control and lash out? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2024 20:43:29 GMT
People who march in protests are doing it because they have strong feelings about something. Yeah, those Nazis had strong feelings against the Jews, too. Same lefties, same crap.
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Post by patman post on Apr 21, 2024 20:52:13 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 21, 2024 21:15:00 GMT
Again - if you are the type to be provoked by a Jew crossing the road should you really be allowed out of secure accommodation? You seem to think it is a normal reaction for people to be provoked into violence by a Jew crossing the road - it is not and should never be. Again, the Jewish man in question was not 'crossing the road'. He was crossing a protest march. It is certainly not a normal reaction for people to be provoked into violence by a Jew crossing the road, but as I have pointed out ad nauseam, no matter how much you want to downplay his intent, 'crossing the road' by no means covers what this man was doing. This is made abundantly clear by the fact that, in a video presentation, he stated his intention of crossing another protest march and invited others to join him doing it. You seem intent on defending people who would be triggered into violence by a Jew crossing the road - for the life of me I cannot understand why. If people cannot control themselves if they see a Jew then that is an issue for the Police - it is not an excuse to make Jews hide themselves. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 21, 2024 21:18:37 GMT
Maybe in his book, but probably less likely in in the new one as the police were testament too. People who march in protests are doing it because they have strong feelings about something. In situations like these, there is always an element of risk. Human nature being what it is, it isn't safe to assume that all protesters are in the middle and rational. It has to be anticipated that some could be leaning towards a more extreme position, and who wants to take the chance that some not so rational participant might lose control and lash out? Yes but you told us this was not an anti Jewish protest. So why would a single Jew be in danger? Or perhaps you were gaslighting.. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 21, 2024 21:25:43 GMT
Only a Jew could be told to hide their Jewishness in case it upsets others . Our leaders are spineless cowards.Those in authority reflect it. Christ, give the police a break. That man was obviously intent on causing a riot. A riot that would have played right into Israeli hands and those of their apologists. A riot that would have created havoc in the communities the marchers were going through. All the cop was doing was explaining that, to attempt to wade into the marchers, while displaying his Jewishness for all the world to see was a dangerous, and very stupid, thing to do. It was, surely, an act of pure provocation. An act that should have had him arrested if he persisted with the craziness. The police have a tough enough job to do without having to deal with that sort of playacting. Showing Jewishness is provocation? lol. |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 21, 2024 22:11:06 GMT
Whatever he was doing, he should have beeen able to do so without harassment from the Police, whilst he was not breaking the law. Ah, but causing a public disturbance is breaking the law, isn't it? And that is what he was intent on doing. The police were trying to manage the situation and prevent a riot. I would agree the police have a duty to prevent crime occurring and so the argument is two tier. There is an argument to say he should have been stopped. The big question is though why would the left march with, side with and form groups with those who contained such elements when there is supposed to be a zero tolerance to racism when they support kick it out, hopenothate, stophateuk, race equality first and a host of other groups built on the zero tolerance to racism agenda. And to be clear zero tolerance means no matter what the mitigating circumstances are and no matter how big the cause is any form of racism is unacceptable, but it seems this is all just baloney. |
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Post by Ripley on Apr 21, 2024 23:10:07 GMT
Again, the Jewish man in question was not 'crossing the road'. He was crossing a protest march. It is certainly not a normal reaction for people to be provoked into violence by a Jew crossing the road, but as I have pointed out ad nauseam, no matter how much you want to downplay his intent, 'crossing the road' by no means covers what this man was doing. This is made abundantly clear by the fact that, in a video presentation, he stated his intention of crossing another protest march and invited others to join him doing it. You seem intent on defending people who would be triggered into violence by a Jew crossing the road - for the life of me I cannot understand why. If people cannot control themselves if they see a Jew then that is an issue for the Police - it is not an excuse to make Jews hide themselves. I am not defending anyone who would be triggered into violence. I am simply observing that such behaviour has been known to occur among humans and we would be foolish not to anticipate the possibility. |
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Post by Ripley on Apr 21, 2024 23:11:04 GMT
Ah, but causing a public disturbance is breaking the law, isn't it? And that is what he was intent on doing. The police were trying to manage the situation and prevent a riot. I would agree the police have a duty to prevent crime occurring and so the argument is two tier. There is an argument to say he should have been stopped. The big question is though why would the left march with, side with and form groups with those who contained such elements when there is supposed to be a zero tolerance to racism when they support kick it out, hopenothate, stophateuk, race equality first and a host of other groups built on the zero tolerance to racism agenda. And to be clear zero tolerance means no matter what the mitigating circumstances are and no matter how big the cause is any form of racism is unacceptable, but it seems this is all just baloney. We don't live in a perfect world where everyone can be packaged and labelled into neat groups. |
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