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Post by Pacifico on Apr 18, 2024 21:28:55 GMT
If a Jew walks across the street whilst a pro-Hamas hate march is on the Met will arrest them...
This is what London has come to.
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Post by Ripley on Apr 18, 2024 22:50:13 GMT
I don't think the police were being unreasonable in asking him to avoid crossing through a protest march for his own safety after explaining that they would not be able to handle the crowd if the situation got out of control.
He clearly sees the potential for trouble but instead of removing his kippah (which he doesn't wear for this presentation) for a few minutes or taking another route as any sensible person would do who wants to avoid further inflaming tensions, he chooses to argue with the police, insisting they allow him to walk through a protest march wearing his kippah and religious symbols (stars of David) on his bag.
Now, while claiming the right to walk through London, he insists that protesters be deprived of that same right, calling for these marches to be curtailed or banned altogether. He does, of course, have the right to walk through London, but what he actually wants is to walk through a protest march wearing symbols of the regime being protested. To this end he now sets up another such opportunity. He invites people to accompany him for the express purpose of interrupting a protest march to provoke a response that is likely to be negative in the extreme, cause problems for the police and not end well for him and the people he is inviting into certain chaos. He is an agitator.
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Post by wapentake on Apr 19, 2024 1:41:27 GMT
This is a difficult one,the police are in a no win situation. For starters there aren’t enough of them and do any of us need to ask why that is,of course Jews should be allowed to walk wherever they wish and the endless protests are one thing,it’s not as though either side is going to take any notice of us so if they wish to carry on protesting they should be static and in a designated place. The other issue is that the Jewish guy thinks he has the right to overtly parade his Jewishness and walk through a large number of anti Jewish protesters,the police have to be realistic if you say as a West Ham supporter instead of being in the away section were in with all the arsenal supporters and the hammers scored (unlikely I know ) you would if you suddenly started celebrating and donning your hammers scarf be removed and/or arrested that’s if you didn’t get the crap beaten out of you first. By the same token away supporters are held back until the home lot have gone,this curtails peoples freedom of movement it’s the police doing their job and being realistic. Looking wider and to the future of this country unless the govt,any govt gets a grip on immigration and dinghy users we are heading for a civil war.
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 19, 2024 6:02:27 GMT
If a Jew walks across the street whilst a pro-Hamas hate march is on the Met will arrest them... This is what London has come to Fine by me Frankly I've had just about enough pandering to their provocations. About time we let them go kill each other since they've been spoiling to do since 1949. That's1949 in Jewish time, about 4000BC
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Post by steppenwolf on Apr 19, 2024 6:57:31 GMT
If the police are undermanned they should either get more police or rearrange their priorities. If it's dangerous for people to be "openly Jewish" because the muslims will assault them then the muslims should be arrested.
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Post by wapentake on Apr 19, 2024 7:25:44 GMT
If the police are undermanned they should either get more police or rearrange their priorities. If it's dangerous for people to be "openly Jewish" because the muslims will assault them then the muslims should be arrested. How do the police get more police,the numbers are dictated by our and their political masters.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 19, 2024 7:42:40 GMT
Can anyone imagine the Police saying:
“You are quite openly Black. This is a BNP march. I am not accusing you of anything, but I am worried about the reaction to your presence.”
..no I can't either..
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Post by wapentake on Apr 19, 2024 7:57:23 GMT
Can anyone imagine the Police saying: “You are quite openly Black. This is a BNP march. I am not accusing you of anything, but I am worried about the reaction to your presence.”
..no I can't either.. Probably because the BNP haven't had a march of any significance for nigh on twenty years.
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Post by sandypine on Apr 19, 2024 8:42:07 GMT
Can anyone imagine the Police saying: “You are quite openly Black. This is a BNP march. I am not accusing you of anything, but I am worried about the reaction to your presence.”
..no I can't either.. Probably because the BNP haven't had a march of any significance for nigh on twenty years. I think perchance the point is that the enforced shoehorning of different groups into communities through law, to bring about a Multicultural society, is now being overturned and where the old Right Wing were forced to be tolerant and inclusive in law and in action that does not now seem to apply. Being black in the area of a BNP march was an inalienable right of the black individual to be upheld in law, being Jewish in the area of what is ostensibly an anti Zionist march is a right denied. It is at best hypocrisy at worst the shape of things to come.
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Post by wapentake on Apr 19, 2024 8:49:41 GMT
Probably because the BNP haven't had a march of any significance for nigh on twenty years. I think perchance the point is that the enforced shoehorning of different groups into communities through law, to bring about a Multicultural society, is now being overturned and where the old Right Wing were forced to be tolerant and inclusive in law and in action that does not now seem to apply. Being black in the area of a BNP march was an inalienable right of the black individual to be upheld in law, being Jewish in the area of what is ostensibly an anti Zionist march is a right denied. It is at best hypocrisy at worst the shape of things to come. Yes I did understand the point but such is the way of forum discussions,you may make a point and the response is that’s history so I was just returning the favour Anyway as I have already said above the police don’t have the numbers they should and who is at fault for that? I also mentioned that if the present inaction continues we are heading for civil war.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2024 10:07:21 GMT
I think perchance the point is that the enforced shoehorning of different groups into communities through law, to bring about a Multicultural society, is now being overturned and where the old Right Wing were forced to be tolerant and inclusive in law and in action that does not now seem to apply. Being black in the area of a BNP march was an inalienable right of the black individual to be upheld in law, being Jewish in the area of what is ostensibly an anti Zionist march is a right denied. It is at best hypocrisy at worst the shape of things to come. Yes I did understand the point but such is the way of forum discussions,you may make a point and the response is that’s history so I was just returning the favour Anyway as I have already said above the police don’t have the numbers they should and who is at fault for that? I also mentioned that if the present inaction continues we are heading for civil war.Blimey, we got ourselves a genius.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 19, 2024 11:00:32 GMT
Can anyone imagine the Police saying: “You are quite openly Black. This is a BNP march. I am not accusing you of anything, but I am worried about the reaction to your presence.”
..no I can't either.. Probably because the BNP haven't had a march of any significance for nigh on twenty years. ..and the point goes whistling straight over your head..
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Post by Bentley on Apr 19, 2024 11:07:35 GMT
Only a Jew could be told to hide their Jewishness in case it upsets others . Our leaders are spineless cowards.Those in authority reflect it.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 19, 2024 12:28:33 GMT
And some people say we don't have two tier policing in this country, ha. www.lbc.co.uk/news/met-police-officer-threatens-arrest-jewish-man-breach-peace-pro-palestine-march/Responding to the clip in the link the Met said: "We are aware of this video and fully acknowledge the worry it has caused, not only to those featured, but also anyone who watches it, and will review the circumstances". This comes after officers were previously filmed telling a Jewish woman that swastikas shown in a pro-Palestine march needed to be "taken in context". A Met spokesman said "Everyone has the right to travel throughout the capital in safety". [Unless you're Jewish, it would seem.]
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 19, 2024 12:32:37 GMT
Can anyone imagine the Police saying: “You are quite openly Black. This is a BNP march. I am not accusing you of anything, but I am worried about the reaction to your presence.”
..no I can't either.. Probably because the BNP haven't had a march of any significance for nigh on twenty years. Can you imagine a Ku Klux Klan march in London, and the police telling black people to get off the streets or face arrest.
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