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Post by thomas on Oct 26, 2022 6:49:09 GMT
The rules were clearly "broken" becuase you didnt win the referendum? LMFAO.
Your honour , i rest my case.
Democracy in three simple steps.
1.You vote.
2.You implement the result .
3.Then campaign anew.
Everytime you lose are you remoaners going to skip step two and demand to go to step three ?
I mean whats the point in democracy then?
Perhaps we need a new democratic rule that only the mature adults can vote , and the immature ones who cant stand losing are banned in case toys are launched from prams with crys of foul play ref!
You need to listen to yourself. Honestly.
If only you had the ability to actually address the post you pretend to reply to, your post only exposes your inability to do that. I see you laughing at your own immature comment  You honestly do not have a case, but with the amount of moaning you do you are either a remoaner or you are out to beat remoaners at their own game.
im crushed.
you are upset about brexit. I see that. You dont like losing. such is life see2.
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Post by Steve on Oct 26, 2022 9:16:48 GMT
So is whataboutery all you have left? lol. Every post of yours on losing a democratic referendum from 6 years ago is whataboutery of the highest order.
Brexiters spent more than remainers . wah wah wah.
brexiters lied more than remainers lied. Wah wah wah.
what about this ? What about that?
Grow up steve , instead of crying about losing democratic votes please.
No tears here But when arrogant shits start calling decent people traitors etc just for doing the right thing by the country I will defend them. When people post BS about that referendum I will counter with facts. So if you and others want me to shut up the solution is in your hands: don't post malicious BS |
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Post by Steve on Oct 26, 2022 9:17:24 GMT
Complete shite from a frequent source. That you CANNOT dispute. There are plenty of other sources out there. And we are all used to the usual remainers MO of attacking the source and not the content. I haven't seen or heard a remainer yet that has got an original thought in their head or have learnt anything from having their arses kicked so many times.  ^ |
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Post by thomas on Oct 26, 2022 9:52:07 GMT
lol. Every post of yours on losing a democratic referendum from 6 years ago is whataboutery of the highest order.
Brexiters spent more than remainers . wah wah wah.
brexiters lied more than remainers lied. Wah wah wah.
what about this ? What about that?
Grow up steve , instead of crying about losing democratic votes please.
No tears here But when arrogant shits start calling decent people traitors etc just for doing the right thing by the country I will defend them. When people post BS about that referendum I will counter with facts. So if you and others want me to shut up the solution is in your hands: don't post malicious BS sorry steve , but who is calling who traitors and who is posting malicious BS?
Im simply pointing out how democracy works , and you go off into meltdown because someone dared challenge your anti democratic remoaner orthodoxy.
The referendum result was free and fair , we took part in it , knew the rules beforehand and the winning amrgin , it was above board comparable to any other uk vote , and it stands. If you want to change it then follow the rules i laid out.
Vote labour into power to rejoin. Stop bleating about spilled milk from 6 years ago.
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Post by thomas on Oct 26, 2022 9:54:23 GMT
lol. Every post of yours on losing a democratic referendum from 6 years ago is whataboutery of the highest order.
Brexiters spent more than remainers . wah wah wah.
brexiters lied more than remainers lied. Wah wah wah.
what about this ? What about that?
Grow up steve , instead of crying about losing democratic votes please.
So if you and others want me to shut up the solution is in your hands: don't post malicious BS I dont want you or anyone else to shut up as you put it. Its a debating forum . All we ask is less of the hysterical hyperbole , and acceptance of democracy when you loose.
You have to be prepared to take yourt medicine in a free and fair fight when you loose , and clearly , from what i see , there are many like you who cant handle democracy.
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 26, 2022 10:37:34 GMT
Thomas my I take your a supporter of Brexit,
You being Scottish and when Scotland wins it independence and they join the EU what are you going to do .
Remain in the EU state or levave to England.
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Post by thomas on Oct 26, 2022 10:40:17 GMT
Thomas my I take your a supporter of Brexit, You being Scottish and when Scotland wins it independence and they join the EU what are you going to do . Remain in the EU state or levave to England. No you may not take it im a supporter of brexit.
Do i need to post a line as a signature in my profile stating for the millionth time i voted remain ?
I support democracy , and like many scot indy supporters , we acknowledge and support englands right to leave the EU.
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Post by Steve on Oct 26, 2022 11:02:09 GMT
No tears here But when arrogant shits start calling decent people traitors etc just for doing the right thing by the country I will defend them. When people post BS about that referendum I will counter with facts. So if you and others want me to shut up the solution is in your hands: don't post malicious BS sorry steve , but who is calling who traitors and who is posting malicious BS? Im simply pointing out how democracy works , and you go off into meltdown because someone dared challenge your anti democratic remoaner orthodoxy. The referendum result was free and fair , we took part in it , knew the rules beforehand and the winning amrgin , it was above board comparable to any other uk vote , and it stands. If you want to change it then follow the rules i laid out. Vote labour into power to rejoin. Stop bleating about spilled milk from 6 years ago.
On this thread the false stories I felt like countering start on page 7. I make no apology for countering them. But the toxic talk has been across the numerous threads about Brexit. here's just one example: What is wrong with shooting remainers? Admittedly they are traitors who want to betray the UK to the EU and the correct response is to draw them behind a sorry horse to a place where they shall be hanged as fit to dwell between neither heaven or earth, cut down while still alive, their privy parts cut away so that they will breed no more traitors, their false hearts torn from their bodies, disemboweled, beheaded and then divided into a further four parts (so they are actually qintled rather than quartered) as a final warning not to do it again. But we live in sentimental times so I will settle for shooting.
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Post by thomas on Oct 26, 2022 11:21:31 GMT
sorry steve , but who is calling who traitors and who is posting malicious BS? Im simply pointing out how democracy works , and you go off into meltdown because someone dared challenge your anti democratic remoaner orthodoxy. The referendum result was free and fair , we took part in it , knew the rules beforehand and the winning amrgin , it was above board comparable to any other uk vote , and it stands. If you want to change it then follow the rules i laid out. Vote labour into power to rejoin. Stop bleating about spilled milk from 6 years ago.
On this thread the false stories I felt like countering start on page 7. I make no apology for countering them. But the toxic talk has been across the numerous threads about Brexit. here's just one example: What is wrong with shooting remainers? Admittedly they are traitors who want to betray the UK to the EU and the correct response is to draw them behind a sorry horse to a place where they shall be hanged as fit to dwell between neither heaven or earth, cut down while still alive, their privy parts cut away so that they will breed no more traitors, their false hearts torn from their bodies, disemboweled, beheaded and then divided into a further four parts (so they are actually qintled rather than quartered) as a final warning not to do it again. But we live in sentimental times so I will settle for shooting.
FFS.
Borchester is well known to me , and is an wee auld guy living in london wae a tin leg sauntering about his allotment wae his walking stick , a large jar of painkillers , and a heavy dose of humour.
It took you long enough to find something to be offended at , and when you do , its some auld geriatrics dry sense of humour.
FFS steve grow a bit of a spine please.
Swooning at the mention of traitors still doesnt justify the anti democratic attempt to overturn a demcoratic vote.
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Post by Steve on Oct 26, 2022 11:35:07 GMT
Look I proved you wrong, again.
Anyway I have a funeral to go to. Toodlepip
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Post by sandypine on Oct 26, 2022 11:39:45 GMT
You really are all over the place. Whether there was a majority for Brexit or against Brexit by say 2017 we will never know. What we were discussing was whether it was democratically legitimate for those people who thought it a bad idea to seek by persuasion to get the electorate overall to change its mind and not shoot the country in the foot (as they saw it). The answer to that is of course yes, just as it would have been democratically legitimate for Farage to begin to a new campaign to leave, as he intended to, had the initial result been remain. As I say old news now, the damage has been done and it is increasingly clear we will pay a heavy price for our folly, but realistically that folly can now not be corrected. On to the future. I think we have to accept that what happened was 1) Brexit was chosen by the electorate. 2) With all the imperfections of the advisory referendum the elected representatives opted to Brexit. 3) Many methods were used to try to stop Brexit through constitutional means 4) The parties stood on a clear platform in 2019 of what they wished to do as regards Brexit 5) With all the imperfections of the first past the post system, which we have had a chance to change, completing Brexit won. I think therefore we should complete Brexit effectively in line with the democratically expressed wishes of the electorate in many ways notwithstanding the polls which are only a guide to public opinion not an accurate measure. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 26, 2022 11:48:29 GMT
Look I proved you wrong, again. what have you proved me wrong about and where else have you proved me wrong?
I asked who you were terrified of and what horrible things they were saying to upset your sensibilities , and you tell me with a serious face an 80 year old geriatric in his allotment has you in terror with his dry wit and sense of humour?
Ther was me thinking england is full of redcoats determined to invade scotland and stop us leaving their union . Imagine my surprise when i find a brow beaten bookeeper in terror of a few words on an adult interwebby forum complaining about being terrorised by a chelsea pensioner.
How the mighty have fallen steve.
Borchester seems to be the last of a dying breed of the englishmen that built an empire....
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Post by thomas on Oct 26, 2022 11:49:35 GMT
You really are all over the place. Whether there was a majority for Brexit or against Brexit by say 2017 we will never know. What we were discussing was whether it was democratically legitimate for those people who thought it a bad idea to seek by persuasion to get the electorate overall to change its mind and not shoot the country in the foot (as they saw it). The answer to that is of course yes, just as it would have been democratically legitimate for Farage to begin to a new campaign to leave, as he intended to, had the initial result been remain. As I say old news now, the damage has been done and it is increasingly clear we will pay a heavy price for our folly, but realistically that folly can now not be corrected. On to the future. I think we have to accept that what happened was 1) Brexit was chosen by the electorate. 2) With all the imperfections of the advisory referendum the elected representatives opted to Brexit. 3) Many methods were used to try to stop Brexit through constitutional means 4) The parties stood on a clear platform in 2019 of what they wished to do as regards Brexit 5) With all the imperfections of the first past the post system, which we have had a chance to change, completing Brexit won. I think therefore we should complete Brexit effectively in line with the democratically expressed wishes of the electorate in many ways notwithstanding the polls which are only a guide to public opinion not an accurate measure. perfect synopsis , and that should be the end of it , but with what i read on here , it wont be. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 26, 2022 11:54:16 GMT
That you CANNOT dispute. There are plenty of other sources out there. And we are all used to the usual remainers MO of attacking the source and not the content. I haven't seen or heard a remainer yet that has got an original thought in their head or have learnt anything from having their arses kicked so many times. ^ Usual bollocks when you are in a hole. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 26, 2022 12:01:00 GMT
Look I proved you wrong, again. what have you proved me wrong about and where else have you proved me wrong?
I asked who you were terrified of and what horrible things they were saying to upset your sensibilities , and you tell me with a serious face an 80 year old geriatric in his allotment has you in terror with his dry wit and sense of humour?
Ther was me thinking england is full of redcoats determined to invade scotland and stop us leaving their union . Imagine my surprise when i find a brow beaten bookeeper in terror of a few words on an adult interwebby forum complaining about being terrorised by a chelsea pensioner.
How the mighty have fallen steve.
Haven't they just... |
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