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Post by Bentley on Nov 28, 2022 20:52:11 GMT
So you are eager to know other peoples business, are you ? Is that because you want to interfere ? Or are you admitting to be strange and unusual? Was the question too difficult for you? Someone needs to get you to understand that this is an open forum. I was reminding you of what ‘ you posted ‘. Is that a problem? |
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Post by see2 on Nov 28, 2022 22:48:21 GMT
Was the question too difficult for you? Someone needs to get you to understand that this is an open forum. I was reminding you of what ‘ you posted ‘. Is that a problem? No you weren't you were just throwing out insults. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 28, 2022 23:00:53 GMT
I was reminding you of what ‘ you posted ‘. Is that a problem? No you weren't you were just throwing out insults. The penny dropped then? Probably not .. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 28, 2022 23:33:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2022 3:01:16 GMT
I'd like to see Niggle Fartage in the jungle too.
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 29, 2022 7:57:35 GMT
I assume you're not going to argue that the muslims DO constitute an elevated security risk compared with non-muslims. That would be futile in view of the facts. As to what I would do about it, I've said many times before how I'd try to mitigate the danger they pose. I'd limit immigration from countries that sponsor terrorism - like Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia. And I'd stop bending over backwards to make life easy for muslims who live in the UK. They would have to abide by British laws (just as we have to abide by their laws when we live in a muslim country) - so no more inhumane slaughter of animals and no more import of Halal meat. That should slow down their immigration. I will very much argue that (a) with your 'Any muslim' means you are saying each every muslim is a security risk and (b) you are trying to broad brush malign people based on religion which is rightly illegal and shit behaviour. It's also highly dumb, talk to any real anti terrorism expert and they''ll tell you you don't combat terrorism by driving the masses of good people into the hold of the evil element by broad brush hating them all, you have to separate the evil element out. So if it disappoints you to have your dumb bigotry exposed then tough shit. Yes, Any and every muslim poses an elevated security risk and also elevated risk of child sexual "exploitation" - and also other crimes. These are facts. And it's not "dumb bigotry" to state the facts - it's the only way to solve the problem. If people refuse to state the facts then the problem will never be solved. And the reason why muslims are a problem is because of the medieval ideology (Islam) that they follow. They regard women as inferior, homosexuals as criminals, non-muslims (infidels) as scum, children as fair game etc etc. Read the Koran - it's all in there. And strangely enough their beliefs seem to inform their behaviour. As the Jay Report on the "overwhelmingly Pakistani" attacks on young girls in Rotherham points out over 1400 girls were assaulted by hundreds of men. The report refers to them as overwhelmingly Pakistani, but they were basically all muslim (Afghans, Kurds etc) - but I assume the report was wary of calling them muslims because we have this illogical idea that everyone must be allowed to practise their own "religion", so they didn't want to scapegoat a religion. Considering that there are only about 10,000 muslims in Rotherham only about 2,000 of them are going to be males in the age bracket of the offenders - so it looks like it isn't a "tiny" minority (as dappy says) of these men that are rapists. It's quite high. As for terrorism being "even rarer" (again according to dappy), the number of muslims who actually perpetrate terrorist acts is indeed small. But the perpetrator is just the tip of the pyramid of muslims who are supporters of terrorism. The most pernicious are the imams who encourage and motivate the actual terrorists, but there are also the whole community of muslims of whom nearly half regard violence against non-muslims to be acceptable - and a similar proportion want Sharia law to be adopted in the UK (and if you don't know anything about Sharia law read it). The other point that you don't understand is that there's no particular reason, in a modern society. why an ideology that is a "religion" should be sacrosanct - especially when its teachings are borderline evil. In fact Islam isn't even called a religion in Arabic - there is no word for religion in Arabic. It's called a "din" - way of life. In reality religion is no different from any other ideology. Yet some ideologies are proscribed in UK law - i.e. you can be locked up for just believing them. National Action is banned because it's regarded as "White Supremacist". Yet Islam is "Muslim Supremacist". It's no different in principle. Yet Islam is regarded as one of the great religions and people are allowed to follow an ideology that encourages terrorism and child rape - and dozy Lefties will defend people's right to follow it. I know you aren't very bright, Steve, but you should be able to understand some of this. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 29, 2022 10:15:20 GMT
I will very much argue that (a) with your 'Any muslim' means you are saying each every muslim is a security risk and (b) you are trying to broad brush malign people based on religion which is rightly illegal and shit behaviour. It's also highly dumb, talk to any real anti terrorism expert and they''ll tell you you don't combat terrorism by driving the masses of good people into the hold of the evil element by broad brush hating them all, you have to separate the evil element out. So if it disappoints you to have your dumb bigotry exposed then tough shit. Yes, Any and every muslim poses an elevated security risk and also elevated risk of child sexual "exploitation" - and also other crimes. These are facts. . . . Thank you for confirming you wish to demonise innocent good people with your racist bigotry. You can now crawl back under that stone now. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 29, 2022 11:16:51 GMT
Sorry but you're one of the stupidest poster on this forum. There were some pretty stupid ones on the last forum but you're the worst so far. "Racist bigotry". It's not even to do with race you twat. It's about ideology. And it's perfectly legal to attack ideologies. Bye bye.
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Post by Steve on Nov 29, 2022 14:28:57 GMT
So you can't actually argue your position (well no surprise there) but you just want to victimise to quote you: "Any and every muslim" and spout off abuse at any and every one that challenges you.
Well that's never going to be a good look Steppenwolf
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 29, 2022 15:30:47 GMT
Fuck off. Steve. You witter on about an intelligent debate but can't address anything I've said except to throw out the usual Leftie insult of "racist bigot". Like I said "ideologies" are NOT protected characteristics and nor are religions. What you need to try to explain is why we allow the muslim ideology to take hold in the UK - with all the problems that predictably occur - yet attack Qatar for following this ideology.
You talk about a "sensible" debate but you haven't got the brain to back it up. But I've wasted too much time on you.
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Post by Steve on Nov 29, 2022 16:48:31 GMT
Now go back and read what I actually posted again instead of what those voices in your head told you I'd posted.
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Post by Steve on Nov 29, 2022 17:05:18 GMT
Oh and educate yourself www.gov.uk/discrimination-your-rights Religion and beliefs are in the list of 9 protected characteristics and also if anything has a significant identifiable in country correlation with ethnicity(ies) then it becomes racist to discriminate on the basis of it |
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 30, 2022 6:23:09 GMT
Oh and educate yourself www.gov.uk/discrimination-your-rights Religion and beliefs are in the list of 9 protected characteristics and also if anything has a significant identifiable in country correlation with ethnicity(ies) then it becomes racist to discriminate on the basis of it As I've said before using google does demand a certain basic understanding of the subject - or you get confused. Religion is NOT protected. We repealed all the laws of blasphemy a few years ago. You can't discriminate against people because of their religion but you CAN attack their religion. It's the difference between for example attacking muslims (which is illegal) and attacking Islam (which is legal). But it's not "racism" to discriminate against people because of their religion or beliefs. Race is something you can't change, so it's a protected characteristic - while beliefs CAN be changed and are not. It's been like this for some time. I should start charging you for all this tuition. The trouble is it's pointless because you never understand it. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 30, 2022 9:42:35 GMT
So what was it? You didn't click the link I gave (that proves you wrong), you couldn't understand the simple English it was written in or you just thought you'd get away with posting a lie?
Please say.
From that very link
Types of discrimination ('protected characteristics')
It is against the law to discriminate against anyone because of:
age
gender reassignment
being married or in a civil partnership
being pregnant or on maternity leave
disability
race including colour, nationality, ethnic or national origin
religion or belief . . .
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Post by see2 on Nov 30, 2022 13:44:46 GMT
No you weren't you were just throwing out insults. The penny dropped then? Probably not .. Smart mouthing is pretty dim stuff. |
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