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Post by Pacifico on Mar 24, 2024 18:15:32 GMT
Story in todays Telegraph about the appalling number of kids who leave school and go straight onto welfare - this in a country desperate for workers.
But one item stood out - some parents want their kids to remain on welfare for the benefit payments.. it's not surprising with welfare that generous we have 6 million on out of work benefits in this country.
"Some parents actively discourage their children from getting a job, she says. “We have parents who are receiving benefits who don’t want their kids to work.”
This is a particular problem when children are on educational healthcare plans, which means their parents receive money to support their special educational needs.
“You wouldn’t believe the amount of money that’s coming into some households because of the educational healthcare plans,” says Sturdy.
She knows of one family where at least three of the children were on plans, meaning the household received more than £90,000 per year in benefits."
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Post by piglet on Mar 25, 2024 10:08:29 GMT
Its like this because we live in a democracy, its like buying votes. Which party gives away the most money, the left of course think all of this is good, and would do more. Start reality is that the country is in an economic cess pit. No party is going to reform this because its a vote loser.
The country, the world needs a parent.
Not democracy.
And the parent will interact like this, " yes i hear you, but the answer is no".
And stick to it, for example reforming benefits. Its too late though, many are dependent ten year olds, even though they are adults.
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 26, 2024 2:08:08 GMT
Story in todays Telegraph about the appalling number of kids who leave school and go straight onto welfare - this in a country desperate for workers. But one item stood out - some parents want their kids to remain on welfare for the benefit payments.. it's not surprising with welfare that generous we have 6 million on out of work benefits in this country. "Some parents actively discourage their children from getting a job, she says. “We have parents who are receiving benefits who don’t want their kids to work.”
This is a particular problem when children are on educational healthcare plans, which means their parents receive money to support their special educational needs.
“You wouldn’t believe the amount of money that’s coming into some households because of the educational healthcare plans,” says Sturdy.
She knows of one family where at least three of the children were on plans, meaning the household received more than £90,000 per year in benefits."
I thought we had record low unemployment you told me once funny how we have record high unemployment when we have Conservative government 😎 |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 26, 2024 2:20:07 GMT
What unemployment benefits are the Telegraph on about .
Eligibility
To be eligible for New Style Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) you’ll need to have both:
worked as an employee
paid Class 1 National Insurance contributions, usually in the last 2 to 3 years (National Insurance credits can also count)
You will not be eligible if you were self-employed and only paid Class 2 National Insurance contributions, unless you were working as a share fisherman or a volunteer development worker.
You’ll also need to:
be 18 or over (there are some exceptions if you’re 16 or 17 - contact Jobcentre Plus for advice)
be under the State Pension age
not be in full-time education
be available for work
not be working at the moment, or be working less than 16 hours per week on average
not have an illness or disability which stops you from working
live in the UK
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 26, 2024 2:39:31 GMT
Extra help
An education, health and care (EHC) plan is for children and young people aged up to 25 who need more support than is available through special educational needs support.
EHC plans identify educational, health and social needs and set out the additional support to meet those needs.
Requesting an EHC assessment
You can ask your local authority to carry out an assessment if you think your child needs an EHC plan.
A young person can request an assessment themselves if they’re aged 16 to 25.
A request can also be made by anyone else who thinks an assessment may be necessary, including doctors, health visitors, teachers, parents and family friends.
If they decide to carry out an assessment you may be asked for:
any reports from your child’s school, nursery or childminder
doctors’ assessments of your child
a letter from you about your child’s needs
The local authority will tell you within 16 weeks whether an EHC plan is going to be made for your child.
EHC as nothing to do with unemployment benfits. My Nicece who husband had worked has Gas fitter for 33yrs gets this Grant for her son she had a sensory room built for him and a Specifically but ground floor extension in her 5 bedroom house .her son has server genetic illness.
So bad he goes to a pioneering expliement programme.
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Post by Handyman on Mar 26, 2024 7:37:47 GMT
In my youth many moons ago if you did not work you got very little financial help a few weeks at most then it was here are the latest vacancies in your area if you don't take any of them on offer you get feck all.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 26, 2024 8:43:13 GMT
In my youth many moons ago if you did not work you got very little financial help a few weeks at most then it was here are the latest vacancies in your area if you don't take any of them on offer you get feck all. Many of the youngsters these days have no intentions of ever finding a job and just want to lie in their pit all day. Why wouldn't they when our taxes are supporting their life of luxury... |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 26, 2024 8:55:58 GMT
In my youth many moons ago if you did not work you got very little financial help a few weeks at most then it was here are the latest vacancies in your area if you don't take any of them on offer you get feck all. That view of the world is long gone - welfare was once seen as a temporary help to get from one job to another, now it is seen as a way of life . |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 26, 2024 9:06:15 GMT
I started work at 15 years of age, even when made redundant as companies went to the wall I found some work never claimed the dole, when as was 21 years of age I moved to London because there was work and was never out of work again , I retired when I was 69 years
My wife came to England aged 17 years for the same reason, she has always worked she is now working out her Notice and is almost 69 years neither of us have been on the dole.
As my later Dad said if he had his time over again he would never have worked hard for decades , he would have been given a Council House never paid tax or NI fed and watered by those who do work
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Post by Handyman on Mar 26, 2024 9:09:06 GMT
In my youth many moons ago if you did not work you got very little financial help a few weeks at most then it was here are the latest vacancies in your area if you don't take any of them on offer you get feck all. That view of the world is long gone - welfare was once seen as a temporary help to get from one job to another, now it is seen as a way of life . IMHO some think it is a right they have to live off the hard work of others, the Government has lots of money they can afford it, well no its the taxes the workers pay that keeps you fed and watered |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 26, 2024 9:22:17 GMT
That view of the world is long gone - welfare was once seen as a temporary help to get from one job to another, now it is seen as a way of life . IMHO some think it is a right they have to live off the hard work of others, the Government has lots of money they can afford it, well no its the taxes the workers pay that keeps you fed and watered To be fair to the layabouts, the idea that it was perfectly fine to sit at home all day on handouts was was heavily reinforced by the government when they thought it a good idea to lockdown everyone during the pandemic and shower money on them. Having experienced the money for nothing life a lot quite liked the idea. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 26, 2024 9:48:28 GMT
Well I'm not going to deny it might happen somewhere, but it bloody well does not happen round here
The days when a 15 year old tart could be assured if a council flat by parting her legs in time to drop a sprog on her 16th are LONG over.
Melissa just had to choose her GCSE options, there isn't anyone in her class who doesn't already know the subjects they want, tbe sort of jobs they open up and the salary they can expect....
Which to be fair applied to me and all my classmates at that age.
Yes they all know that plans get shafted, but there isn't one of them who doesn't want the house, the car, the foreign holidays...
And they all know only the rabid left thinks you can get that sitting on your arse.
Unless you become an MP that is....
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 26, 2024 10:16:34 GMT
The problem the government have now that work doesn't pay, there was a mother on tv the other night, she said by the time she paid for childcare, and other costs associated with working, she would actually lose money if she worked.
Universal Credit has shot them in the foot, by the time they give family tax credits, child tax credits and so on it works out quite generous, even the minimum wage doesn't make up for what they would lose in benefits if they work, so the government need to address this issue.
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 26, 2024 11:22:48 GMT
The problem the government have now that work doesn't pay, there was a mother on tv the other night, she said by the time she paid for childcare, and other costs associated with working, she would actually lose money if she worked. Universal Credit has shot them in the foot, by the time they give family tax credits, child tax credits and so on it works out quite generous, even the minimum wage doesn't make up for what they would lose in benefits if they work, so the government need to address this issue. The reason some people did not bother going back to work after the pandemic is because the riotous cost of childcare takes every penny. Friends who were forever complaining at the costs found during the weeks after furlough ended that actually not bothering with two full time commuting office jobs and sacrificing the second car and dumping the childcare meant they were no worse off, and in fact all those bills took every extra penny Unless you are an MP and can swindle the public to get a cushy job for your wife and daughter, the costs are stratospheric |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 26, 2024 11:25:24 GMT
In my youth many moons ago if you did not work you got very little financial help a few weeks at most then it was here are the latest vacancies in your area if you don't take any of them on offer you get feck all. That view of the world is long gone - welfare was once seen as a temporary help to get from one job to another, now it is seen as a way of life . Again, not my experience because when I went blind waiting for the Welsh fuckwits to do my eye operations and lost my job I got fuck all But then I'm a white heterosexual who doesn't vote labour |
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