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Post by wapentake on Mar 24, 2024 15:29:06 GMT
I wouldn't say toxic,I feel sorry for Harry who despite what is called a privileged life lost his mother at an early age and he’s strong in his belief she was hounded by the press not least in the manner of her death. Also if you do a bit of research and look at the people who actually served with him in the army theres a good percentage who rated him. We are fed up of him using and abusing his mothers death, many children lose parents, he's no different, and as for serving in the army, he got as close to the front line in Afghanistan as I did, plus he cause a big headache because he had to have personal security protecting him, he's always been a spoilt little brat who is use to getting all his own way, a nasty piece of work. Apart from all that you quite like him lol |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 24, 2024 15:35:18 GMT
Why should the 'entitled' public demand the royals should give them any private photos of themselves, even if it is photoshopped, they graciously allow the public in to their private lives, something that would piss me right off, how would you feel if the media and public were 'demanding' pictures of your family, I am sure you would have something to say about it ........ We do not own the royal family, they are entitled to a private life, they generate on average over a £Billion a year in tourist revenue, and all the hotels, shops, hospitality industries would suffer financially if it weren't royal tourists.
The royals owe us nothing, personally if I was Kate and William I'd tell the press and the entitled public to kiss my fuck arse, but of course they are far too polite and tolerant to do that.
They owe us EVERYTHING. They exist because we fund them. They hoard wealth because we allow to ignore rules on tax and Inheritance. They are not even a real Monarchy, just a pretend one, nothing more than a Disneyland with pomp and tax breaks. All The Best Obviously you ignored their importance in tourist revenue over £Billion but don't let that get in the way of your bias.
British royal residences are palaces, castles and houses which are occupied by members of the British royal family in the United Kingdom. The current residences are owned by the Crown, the Duchy of Cornwall, and privately by members of the royal family; all the official residences are owned by the Crown.
If you are any good at maths work it out ...
The total Sovereign Grant for 2022-23, amounted to £86.3 million (2021-22: £86.3 million), which is made up of a core grant of £51.8 million which funds official travel, property maintenance and the operating costs of The Sovereign's household.
Royals generate over £Billion in tourist revenue EACH YEAR.
They cost the tax payers £86.3 million EACH YEAR
Work it out Sherlock I'd say that was a fuckin good return on our investment, we give them £86 million a year and they generate for us £Billion a year for us, it's a fuckin no brainer.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 24, 2024 15:35:36 GMT
We are fed up of him using and abusing his mothers death, many children lose parents, he's no different, and as for serving in the army, he got as close to the front line in Afghanistan as I did, plus he cause a big headache because he had to have personal security protecting him, he's always been a spoilt little brat who is use to getting all his own way, a nasty piece of work. Apart from all that you quite like him lol  |
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Post by Ripley on Mar 24, 2024 15:53:25 GMT
France is the most visited, most popular tourist destination in the world with 90 million visitors in 2019 alone. This is in spite of having no monarchy. Numbers dropped during the pandemic but rose again to 79.4 million in 2022, a year when only 39% of that number of tourists (31 million) visited the UK.
If the British monarchy were to end, tourists would still come to see the history of the monarchy, the way they flock to Versailles which hasn't been occupied by a monarch since Louis XVI, who died at the guillotine in 1793. They might not come for the weather, but they'd come for the history, the scenery and the culture. They'd come for heritage tours and the archaeology tours. They'd come to visit family and eat fish and chips and British marmalade and maybe even as a stopover to France. Tourism won't die without the royals.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 24, 2024 16:03:41 GMT
France is the most visited, most popular tourist destination in the world with 90 million visitors in 2019 alone. This is in spite of having no monarchy. Numbers dropped during the pandemic but rose again to 79.4 million in 2022, a year when only 39% of that number of tourists (31 million) visited the UK. If the British monarchy were to end, tourists would still come to see the history of the monarchy, the way they flock to Versailles which hasn't been occupied by a monarch since Louis XVI, who died at the guillotine in 1793. They might not come for the weather, but they'd come for the history, the scenery and the culture. They'd come for heritage tours and the archaeology tours. They'd come to visit family and eat fish and chips and British marmalade and maybe even as a stopover to France. Tourism won't die without the royals. France landmass 551,695 km²
UK landmass 244,376 km2
UK tourism 37 million 2023, given that France has double the land mass than the UK that makes them almost level pegging in tourism.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 24, 2024 16:52:57 GMT
France is the most visited, most popular tourist destination in the world with 90 million visitors in 2019 alone. This is in spite of having no monarchy. Numbers dropped during the pandemic but rose again to 79.4 million in 2022, a year when only 39% of that number of tourists (31 million) visited the UK. If the British monarchy were to end, tourists would still come to see the history of the monarchy, the way they flock to Versailles which hasn't been occupied by a monarch since Louis XVI, who died at the guillotine in 1793. They might not come for the weather, but they'd come for the history, the scenery and the culture. They'd come for heritage tours and the archaeology tours. They'd come to visit family and eat fish and chips and British marmalade and maybe even as a stopover to France. Tourism won't die without the royals. Did anyone says it would die ? Have you been to France ? As a tourist destination the UK is in a different league to France . A lower one . |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 24, 2024 16:55:55 GMT
They owe us EVERYTHING. They exist because we fund them. They hoard wealth because we allow to ignore rules on tax and Inheritance. They are not even a real Monarchy, just a pretend one, nothing more than a Disneyland with pomp and tax breaks. All The Best Obviously you ignored their importance in tourist revenue over £Billion but don't let that get in the way of your bias.
British royal residences are palaces, castles and houses which are occupied by members of the British royal family in the United Kingdom. The current residences are owned by the Crown, the Duchy of Cornwall, and privately by members of the royal family; all the official residences are owned by the Crown.
If you are any good at maths work it out ...
The total Sovereign Grant for 2022-23, amounted to £86.3 million (2021-22: £86.3 million), which is made up of a core grant of £51.8 million which funds official travel, property maintenance and the operating costs of The Sovereign's household.
Royals generate over £Billion in tourist revenue EACH YEAR.
They cost the tax payers £86.3 million EACH YEAR
Work it out Sherlock I'd say that was a fuckin good return on our investment, we give them £86 million a year and they generate for us £Billion a year for us, it's a fuckin no brainer.
You are wasting your time trying to debated with anyone who knows little if anything about our Royal Family and the integral part they have played in our history, totally blinded by their hatred and envy. Yes the King and Katie were both operated on at the London Clinic and they will pay the bills, just like anyone else who has the funds to do so, those who have Private Medical Insurance get treated in Private Hospitals which takes the strain off the badly organised NHS. Hatred and Envy are hard task masters to carry around 24/7 eventually it consumes those that harbour it |
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Post by Ripley on Mar 24, 2024 17:07:54 GMT
France is the most visited, most popular tourist destination in the world with 90 million visitors in 2019 alone. This is in spite of having no monarchy. Numbers dropped during the pandemic but rose again to 79.4 million in 2022, a year when only 39% of that number of tourists (31 million) visited the UK. If the British monarchy were to end, tourists would still come to see the history of the monarchy, the way they flock to Versailles which hasn't been occupied by a monarch since Louis XVI, who died at the guillotine in 1793. They might not come for the weather, but they'd come for the history, the scenery and the culture. They'd come for heritage tours and the archaeology tours. They'd come to visit family and eat fish and chips and British marmalade and maybe even as a stopover to France. Tourism won't die without the royals. Did anyone says it would die ? Have you been to France ? As a tourist destination the UK is in a different league to France . A lower one . I'm not saying anyone said it would die. I'm just saying it wouldn't die. Yes, I've been to France many many times and am a fluent French speaker. How can you say that the UK is in a lower league? It's just different, but different places appeal to different people for different reasons. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 24, 2024 17:08:51 GMT
Obviously you ignored their importance in tourist revenue over £Billion but don't let that get in the way of your bias.
British royal residences are palaces, castles and houses which are occupied by members of the British royal family in the United Kingdom. The current residences are owned by the Crown, the Duchy of Cornwall, and privately by members of the royal family; all the official residences are owned by the Crown.
If you are any good at maths work it out ...
The total Sovereign Grant for 2022-23, amounted to £86.3 million (2021-22: £86.3 million), which is made up of a core grant of £51.8 million which funds official travel, property maintenance and the operating costs of The Sovereign's household.
Royals generate over £Billion in tourist revenue EACH YEAR.
They cost the tax payers £86.3 million EACH YEAR
Work it out Sherlock I'd say that was a fuckin good return on our investment, we give them £86 million a year and they generate for us £Billion a year for us, it's a fuckin no brainer.
You are wasting your time trying to debated with anyone who knows little if anything about our Royal Family and the integral part they have played in our history, totally blinded by their hatred and envy. Yes the King and Katie were both operated on at the London Clinic and they will pay the bills, just like anyone else who has the funds to do so, those who have Private Medical Insurance get treated in Private Hospitals which takes the strain off the badly organised NHS. Hatred and Envy are hard task masters to carry around 24/7 eventually it consumes those that harbour it Absolutely, they are just anti-monarchy, I think they know exactly what our Royal family stands for, and they know that people flock from around the world just to get a glimpse of them, they also know how important they are for tourism revenue, and they also know that without them we will lose far more than we will gain.
Anything typical British/English values and cultures is what the woke snowflake diverse want to destroy, and the Royals stand for all of that, if any one doesn't like the Royals or what they represent and stand for, they should fuck off to France or somewhere else that doesn't have a monarchy, as you rightly say it all boils down to hatred, envy and jealousy, it eventually eats them up.
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Post by Ripley on Mar 24, 2024 17:13:44 GMT
France is the most visited, most popular tourist destination in the world with 90 million visitors in 2019 alone. This is in spite of having no monarchy. Numbers dropped during the pandemic but rose again to 79.4 million in 2022, a year when only 39% of that number of tourists (31 million) visited the UK. If the British monarchy were to end, tourists would still come to see the history of the monarchy, the way they flock to Versailles which hasn't been occupied by a monarch since Louis XVI, who died at the guillotine in 1793. They might not come for the weather, but they'd come for the history, the scenery and the culture. They'd come for heritage tours and the archaeology tours. They'd come to visit family and eat fish and chips and British marmalade and maybe even as a stopover to France. Tourism won't die without the royals. France landmass 551,695 km²
UK landmass 244,376 km2
UK tourism 37 million 2023, given that France has double the land mass than the UK that makes them almost level pegging in tourism.
I somehow don't think that tourists choose their holiday destinations based on land mass. What I'm saying is that tourists will still come to the UK even if the monarchy ends. There are plenty of other attractions. |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 24, 2024 17:19:34 GMT
You are wasting your time trying to debated with anyone who knows little if anything about our Royal Family and the integral part they have played in our history, totally blinded by their hatred and envy. Yes the King and Katie were both operated on at the London Clinic and they will pay the bills, just like anyone else who has the funds to do so, those who have Private Medical Insurance get treated in Private Hospitals which takes the strain off the badly organised NHS. Hatred and Envy are hard task masters to carry around 24/7 eventually it consumes those that harbour it Absolutely, they are just anti-monarchy, I think they know exactly what our Royal family stands for, and they know that people flock from around the world just to get a glimpse of them, they also know how important they are for tourism revenue, and they also know that without them we will lose far more than we will gain.
Anything typical British/English values and cultures is what the woke snowflake diverse want to destroy, and the Royals stand for all of that, if any one doesn't like the Royals or what they represent and stand for, they should fuck off to France or somewhere else that doesn't have a monarchy, as you rightly say it all boils down to hatred, envy and jealousy, it eventually eats them up.
Anti Monarchists are very few in number IMHO, if they had a referendum on either keeping the monarchy or getting rid of them the Monarchists would win hands down. Another thing PV got wrong , only the Monarch is or was exempt on Income Tax the late Queen changed that some years ago and paid several millions per year tax on her income as far as I am aware he pays tax on his income, all the other Royals have always paid tax on their incomes |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 24, 2024 17:36:49 GMT
Did anyone says it would die ? Have you been to France ? As a tourist destination the UK is in a different league to France . A lower one . I'm not saying anyone said it would die. I'm just saying it wouldn't die. Yes, I've been to France many many times and am a fluent French speaker. How can you say that the UK is in a lower league? It's just different, but different places appeal to different people for different reasons. No it isn’t . The UK has nothing to compare with the South of France, Loire Valley or even Disneyland Paris . You can get to many European countries easily too. We are an essentially cold Island off the European mainland . If course the tourist industry wouldn’t die. I wonder why you mentioned in the first place, |
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 24, 2024 17:46:37 GMT
They owe us EVERYTHING. They exist because we fund them. They hoard wealth because we allow to ignore rules on tax and Inheritance. They are not even a real Monarchy, just a pretend one, nothing more than a Disneyland with pomp and tax breaks. All The Best Obviously you ignored their importance in tourist revenue over £Billion but don't let that get in the way of your bias.
British royal residences are palaces, castles and houses which are occupied by members of the British royal family in the United Kingdom. The current residences are owned by the Crown, the Duchy of Cornwall, and privately by members of the royal family; all the official residences are owned by the Crown.
If you are any good at maths work it out ...
The total Sovereign Grant for 2022-23, amounted to £86.3 million (2021-22: £86.3 million), which is made up of a core grant of £51.8 million which funds official travel, property maintenance and the operating costs of The Sovereign's household.
Royals generate over £Billion in tourist revenue EACH YEAR.
They cost the tax payers £86.3 million EACH YEAR
Work it out Sherlock I'd say that was a fuckin good return on our investment, we give them £86 million a year and they generate for us £Billion a year for us, it's a fuckin no brainer.
I didn't ignore it. But, Sherlock, income revenue is only one side of the equation, the other side is cost. When you take all in the income revenue they generate, and then SUBTRACT the costs, they have a marginal net positive economic effect of £197 Million. All The Best |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 24, 2024 17:51:31 GMT
Obviously you ignored their importance in tourist revenue over £Billion but don't let that get in the way of your bias.
British royal residences are palaces, castles and houses which are occupied by members of the British royal family in the United Kingdom. The current residences are owned by the Crown, the Duchy of Cornwall, and privately by members of the royal family; all the official residences are owned by the Crown.
If you are any good at maths work it out ...
The total Sovereign Grant for 2022-23, amounted to £86.3 million (2021-22: £86.3 million), which is made up of a core grant of £51.8 million which funds official travel, property maintenance and the operating costs of The Sovereign's household.
Royals generate over £Billion in tourist revenue EACH YEAR.
They cost the tax payers £86.3 million EACH YEAR
Work it out Sherlock I'd say that was a fuckin good return on our investment, we give them £86 million a year and they generate for us £Billion a year for us, it's a fuckin no brainer.
I didn't ignore it. But, Sherlock, income revenue is only one side of the equation, the other side is cost. When you take all in the income revenue they generate, and then SUBTRACT the costs, they have a marginal net positive economic effect of £197 Million. All The Best LOL........ even by your own plucked out of the air calculations, name me anything that you can invest £86 million and get a return of £111 MILLION on your £86 million investment in ONE year. |
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Post by Ripley on Mar 24, 2024 18:07:09 GMT
I'm not saying anyone said it would die. I'm just saying it wouldn't die. Yes, I've been to France many many times and am a fluent French speaker. How can you say that the UK is in a lower league? It's just different, but different places appeal to different people for different reasons. No it isn’t . The UK has nothing to compare with the South of France, Loire Valley or even Disneyland Paris . You can get to many European countries easily too. We are an essentially cold Island off the European mainland . If course the tourist industry wouldn’t die. I wonder why you mentioned in the first place, Don't get me wrong. I have been visiting France all my life and have friends there. I love the place and find it exceptional. I appreciate every region in different ways. I love the history, the scenery, the cuisine, the language and the people and it has always been my #1 favourite destination with Greece as #2. But I recognise that not everyone shares my appreciation for these places. Some people actually prefer the UK's more low key vibe for reasons of their own, maybe because they're more comfortable in English. Some people feel uncomfortable too far from their own language and culture. |
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