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Post by Toreador on Dec 1, 2022 11:32:55 GMT
Starmer has been under pressure to voice Labour's policies. He has responded to satisfy certain elements of voters by promising them something he is unlikely enact and things that are far less important than this country's performance.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 1, 2022 11:46:14 GMT
Simple, create a senate of elected politicians whose job it is to scrutinise the Commons. And if the senate reject a policy, they cannot be overruled.
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 1, 2022 12:46:39 GMT
Simple, create a senate of elected politicians whose job it is to scrutinise the Commons. And if the senate reject a policy, they cannot be overruled. I'd rather the senate be made up of the public, just like jury service.
There would be no conflict of interest then, these politicians are forever taking bungs.
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Post by see2 on Dec 1, 2022 15:27:42 GMT
Simple, create a senate of elected politicians whose job it is to scrutinise the Commons. And if the senate reject a policy, they cannot be overruled. I like the idea but there is one problem and that is if the make up is seriously imbalanced favouring one side of politics or the other.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 1, 2022 15:40:54 GMT
Simple, create a senate of elected politicians whose job it is to scrutinise the Commons. And if the senate reject a policy, they cannot be overruled. I like the idea but there is one problem and that is if the make up is seriously imbalanced favouring one side of politics or the other. One way around this is to have independents stand for the Senate, who are not members of the party in government or the opposition. And they stand on the strength of their qualifications.
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Post by see2 on Dec 1, 2022 19:44:51 GMT
I like the idea but there is one problem and that is if the make up is seriously imbalanced favouring one side of politics or the other. One way around this is to have independents stand for the Senate, who are not members of the party in government or the opposition. And they stand on the strength of their qualifications. It's beginning to look more promising.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 1, 2022 22:19:45 GMT
I like the idea but there is one problem and that is if the make up is seriously imbalanced favouring one side of politics or the other. One way around this is to have independents stand for the Senate, who are not members of the party in government or the opposition. And they stand on the strength of their qualifications. I can see the attraction but I wonder how practical this is. Most people couldn't give a toss about politics so how much time are they going to give to peruse the CV's of a bunch of people wanting to be Lords. Remember this is an electorate who elected a monkey to be mayor of Hartlepool.
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Post by thomas on Dec 2, 2022 8:14:21 GMT
If starmer could be a cheerleader in overturning a democratic referendum result , trying every trick in the book from 2016 to 2019 to deny democracy , im sure taking the uk back into the EU behind closed doors when he falls into power will be a walk in the park.
Of course his cardinal playground mistake is promising all people all things and trying to face both ways over brexit , which will of course eventually catch up with him as it always does with the low watt lighbulbs in the labour party.
I think you need to drop at least some of your overwhelming bias if you desire to produce a sensible post. Thanks for your objective judgement. We know who to come to if we want to hear an impartial review of that nice man mr Starmer.
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Post by thomas on Dec 2, 2022 8:17:24 GMT
Where? 100 years and counting , with labour in power many times , and the best they can do is some very poor tinkering that no one is happy with?
What isnt clearly in dispute is labour cant be trusted.
Addressed numerous times. Where? The house of lords still exists today and labour have been promising to abolish it for the last hundred years at practically every election.
in your english language heres what abolish means...
in the labour party language , abolish seems to mean whatever they like . ( tinker with , ignore , stack full of labour toadies....that sort of thing)
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 3, 2022 21:49:43 GMT
Oh look - a Starmer pledge unravels....there is a surprise.
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Post by thomas on Dec 4, 2022 11:20:51 GMT
Oh look - a Starmer pledge unravels....there is a surprise. I am howling here pacifico.
‘Labour’s proposals to abolish the House of Lords are set to be watered down after an eleventh-hour row between Gordon Brown and Sir Keir Starmer’s advisers.’ lol
Who could have guessed? 122 years and counting of jam tomorrow from the labour party...
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Post by thomas on Dec 4, 2022 11:22:19 GMT
Oh look - a Starmer pledge unravels....there is a surprise.
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Post by thomas on Dec 4, 2022 11:24:16 GMT
Oh look - a Starmer pledge unravels....there is a surprise.
I tell you now pacifico , i think the vast majority of us know fine well starmer is going to be a disaster as prime minister. He has told that many porkeis , and spent so much time facing both ways on so many subjects everntually its going to catch up on him big time.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 4, 2022 13:01:00 GMT
I get the feeling it was all bollox to start with and is still bollox over a hundred years later.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2022 9:20:06 GMT
Oh look - a Starmer pledge unravels....there is a surprise.
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