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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 20, 2024 12:49:10 GMT
1) That's a matter of opinion 2) I never said 'you' did 3) I just pointed out the allegation that MP's read the news on GB News, is false. Given proceedings thus far, I suspect your dog may make more sense. Here to help. Certainly makes more sense than you. Because Ofcom - the Government Appointed regulator, with Government mandated Guidelines, and whose entire senior staff was appointed by a Conservative Government have concluded that MPs DID read the the News on GB News. Do you have any evidence that you know better than them? All The Best If Ofcom were fit for purpose they would be investigating the blatantly biased BBC who have scandal after scandal after scandal. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 20, 2024 12:49:21 GMT
Can you explain how that link in any way supports your claim that the Ofcom Ruling on GB News is in any way at all erroneous. If you can I might be inclined to follow it up and dig deeper. If (inevitably when) you can't I'll chalk it up for what it is: a lazy attempt to deflect from a losing position using whataboutery. All The Best |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 20, 2024 12:50:07 GMT
Dont take my word for it, let The People speak for themselves The British people prefer news to be informative, rather than subjective, it makes sense. In 2023 71% of British people watched BBC1 News ... 49% watched ITV1 News ... 33% BBC News Channel ... 30% SKY ... 24% Channel 4 News ... 16% BBC2 News ... 12% Channel 5 ... 8% CNN ... 7% BBC Parliament 6% GB News. The three mainstream TV News providers are way out in front, with the BBC been by a long way, the UKs prefered and most watched source of news on TV. Yet on here it's always the rabid left that defend the BBC and denigrate GB News. Funny that. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 20, 2024 12:50:36 GMT
Dont take my word for it, let The People speak for themselves The British people prefer news to be informative, rather than subjective, it makes sense. In 2023 71% of British people watched BBC1 News ... 49% watched ITV1 News ... 33% BBC News Channel ... 30% SKY ... 24% Channel 4 News ... 16% BBC2 News ... 12% Channel 5 ... 8% CNN ... 7% BBC Parliament 6% GB News. The three mainstream TV News providers are way out in front, with the BBC been by a long way, the UKs prefered and most watched source of news on TV. "Will of The people" only counts when it supports their arguments... /sarcasm All The Best |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 20, 2024 12:52:22 GMT
Can you explain how that link in any way supports your claim that the Ofcom Ruling on GB News is in any way at all erroneous. If you can I might be inclined to follow it up and dig deeper. If (inevitably when) you can't I'll chalk it up for what it is: a lazy attempt to deflect from a losing position using whataboutery. All The Best I didn't say the Ofcom ruling was erroneous. I said [Several times] MP's ex or current, do not and never have read the news on GB News. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 20, 2024 12:53:32 GMT
Certainly makes more sense than you. Because Ofcom - the Government Appointed regulator, with Government mandated Guidelines, and whose entire senior staff was appointed by a Conservative Government have concluded that MPs DID read the the News on GB News. Do you have any evidence that you know better than them? All The Best If Ofcom were fit for purpose they would be investigating the blatantly biased BBC who have scandal after scandal after scandal. That's your opinion, not a fact. That the Government Appointed Regulator, using Government mandated Guidelines, and with a senior staff appointed by a Conservative Government, found GB News to be in breach of broadcast regulations is a FACT. Come to me with a fact that in any way counters that and then we can have a grown up discussion. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 20, 2024 12:55:02 GMT
Can you explain how that link in any way supports your claim that the Ofcom Ruling on GB News is in any way at all erroneous. If you can I might be inclined to follow it up and dig deeper. If (inevitably when) you can't I'll chalk it up for what it is: a lazy attempt to deflect from a losing position using whataboutery. All The Best I didn't say the Ofcom ruling was erroneous. I said [Several times] MP's ex or current, do not and never have read the news on GB News. And the Ofcom Ruling said otherwise. So you are saying the ruling was erroneous. No wonder you can't defend your position properly when you don't even seem to understand what your position is. All The Best |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 20, 2024 13:03:54 GMT
I didn't say the Ofcom ruling was erroneous. I said [Several times] MP's ex or current, do not and never have read the news on GB News. And the Ofcom Ruling said otherwise. So you are saying the ruling was erroneous. No wonder you can't defend your position properly when you don't even seem to understand what your position is. All The Best We appear to be moving in circles. If Ofcom said MP's read news on GB News, they are wrong. News readers read the news not MP's. Some MP's take part in current affairs programmes on GB News, as they do on other channels. The reason this is causing you so much angst is because although you're talking about GB News, you have never actually watched it so you don't really understand what you're talking about. If you had watched it, this little tete-a tete would be unnecessary. May I suggest in order for you to be better informed you tune in via YouTube or TV channel 236. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 20, 2024 13:12:36 GMT
I didn't say the Ofcom ruling was erroneous. I said [Several times] MP's ex or current, do not and never have read the news on GB News. And the Ofcom Ruling said otherwise. So you are saying the ruling was erroneous. No wonder you can't defend your position properly when you don't even seem to understand what your position is. All The Best It's been fun, but fortunately for you I must dash. Later perhaps.  |
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 20, 2024 13:17:37 GMT
And the Ofcom Ruling said otherwise. So you are saying the ruling was erroneous. No wonder you can't defend your position properly when you don't even seem to understand what your position is. All The Best We appear to be moving in circles. If Ofcom said MP's read news on GB News, they are wrong. News readers read the news not MP's. Some MP's take part in current affairs programmes on GB News, as they do on other channels. The reason this is causing you so much angst is because although you're talking about GB News, you have never actually watched it so you don't really understand what you're talking about. If you had watched it, this little tete-a tete would be unnecessary. May I suggest in order for you to be better informed you tune in via YouTube or TV channel 236. I've never been in to space either. But I'll believe the UK Space Agency before I'll believe you. All The Best |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 20, 2024 13:21:04 GMT
I've never been in to space either... But you're still talking from Uranus. |
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Post by patman post on Mar 20, 2024 13:23:56 GMT
And the Ofcom Ruling said otherwise. So you are saying the ruling was erroneous. No wonder you can't defend your position properly when you don't even seem to understand what your position is. All The Best We appear to be moving in circles. If Ofcom said MP's read news on GB News, they are wrong. News readers read the news not MP's. Some MP's take part in current affairs programmes on GB News, as they do on other channels. The reason this is causing you so much angst is because although you're talking about GB News, you have never actually watched it so you don't really understand what you're talking about. If you had watched it, this little tete-a tete would be unnecessary. May I suggest in order for you to be better informed you tune in via YouTube or TV channel 236. It appears you haven't read (or understood) Ofcom's decision, which was that it had identified breaches of the Broadcasting Code:
"...host politicians acted as newsreaders, news interviewers or news reporters in sequences which clearly constituted news – including reporting breaking news events – without exceptional justification. News was, therefore, not presented with due impartiality"
Ofcom was applying the Broadcast Code
**5.3 No politician may be used as a newsreader, interviewer or reporter in any news
programmes unless, exceptionally, it is editorially justified. In that case, the
political allegiance of that person must be made clear to the audience.
The exclusion of views or opinions
(Rule 5.4 applies to television and radio services (except restricted services) and
to BBC ODPS.)
5.4 Programmes in the services (listed above) must exclude all expressions of the
views and opinions of the person providing the service on matters of political
and industrial controversy and matters relating to current public policy (unless
that person is speaking in a legislative forum or in a court of law). Views and
opinions relating to the provision of programme services are also excluded from
this requirement.
All seems perfectly clear. Any cavaliering disregard of the rules (as Tommy Robinson tries) will be highlighted and possibly sanctioned...
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 20, 2024 13:24:59 GMT
Kin hell, the girls are ganging up on me, lol. You rang Pavlov's bell, they can't help but respond. |
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Post by patman post on Mar 20, 2024 13:28:28 GMT
Certainly makes more sense than you. Because Ofcom - the Government Appointed regulator, with Government mandated Guidelines, and whose entire senior staff was appointed by a Conservative Government have concluded that MPs DID read the the News on GB News. Do you have any evidence that you know better than them? All The Best If Ofcom were fit for purpose they would be investigating the blatantly biased BBC who have scandal after scandal after scandal. Whataboutery would be stronger if proven actual examples could be given... |
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 20, 2024 13:35:29 GMT
Dont take my word for it, let The People speak for themselves The British people prefer news to be informative, rather than subjective, it makes sense. In 2023 71% of British people watched BBC1 News ... 49% watched ITV1 News ... 33% BBC News Channel ... 30% SKY ... 24% Channel 4 News ... 16% BBC2 News ... 12% Channel 5 ... 8% CNN ... 7% BBC Parliament 6% GB News. The three mainstream TV News providers are way out in front, with the BBC been by a long way, the UKs prefered and most watched source of news on TV. Yet on here it's always the rabid left that defend the BBC and denigrate GB News. Funny that. Firstly, I am not "The rabid left", secondly nowhere in my posts have I "defended the BBC" I made a factual statement, that GB News is intentionally and quite obviously a subjective news outlet which takes a right wing perspective, in other words it is biased, and it is open about the fact. I am not defending the BBC, when I stated that the THREE mainstream TV news channels, ITN, BBC & SKY are objective, and in most cases leave the viewer to make their own minds up. It speaks volumes when you consider that one of the most common phrases now on ITN or the BBC is "we invited someone from the government to answer the claims, but no one was available". |
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