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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 20, 2024 11:17:35 GMT
Whatever ...
Diane Abbott denies she ‘refused to take antisemitism course to rejoin Labour’
Tbf, and I cant believe I'm going to say this, but in all honesty she was quite right to refuse to do this antisemitism course. Whether she or anyone else does one these useless browbeating left wing bullshit inclusion diversity virtue seeking courses and there are loads of them, will not change opinions, in fact it may have the reverse effect because they make people feel bullied and resentful. Woke courses are nothing more than box ticking exercises designed to appease and ease the consciences of weak thin skinned people who see offence in everything. I'd agree Red, but Abbott wants to rejoin a party (Labour) that wants to do just that, so in her case it's poetic justice. |
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 20, 2024 12:04:06 GMT
WRONG ... Diane Abbott did not say that Jewish people had not experienced racism, she said that Jewish people did not experience the same level of racism, as in on a day to day basis. Diane Abbott is a fool, she opens her mouth and says the wrong things sometimes, but I am adament that she is 100% NOT a racist or antisemitic.Couldn’t you apply the same logic to Hester? Its a simple uestion. You are not living in the world of reality When a person states that "she should be shot", how do YOU interpret that ?. for me it means that Hester believes that ... she should be shot. When Diane Abbott suggested that minorities who are white do not suffer the same levels of racism, some idiots interpreted that to mean she is antisemitic, yet she did not say anything which was specifically anti Jewish. I reiterate that the Labour Party ( and the rest of society ) are so over sensetive to antisemitism, that they are frightened to say anything, because it is always misinterpretated. As for so called "Anti Semitism Courses", the Israeli lobbyists have got us by the balls, THEY ( the Israeli government ), want any criticism of them to be classed as antisemitic, and for my part they can go and take a running jump, I am certainly not anti Jewish, but I AM bitterly opposed to the Israeli government. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 20, 2024 12:42:46 GMT
Hester didn’t say Abbott should be shot because she is black . Hester didn’t call for Abbott to be murdered . He used an inappropriate phrase .
Id hate to be standing next you and say ‘ Fuck me ‘ or ‘ you can shove that up your arse’. I suspect that you would be calling the police about sexual harassment .
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 20, 2024 12:53:31 GMT
WRONG ... Diane Abbott did not say that Jewish people had not experienced racism, she said that Jewish people did not experience the same level of racism, as in on a day to day basis. Diane Abbott is a fool, she opens her mouth and says the wrong things sometimes, but I am adament that she is 100% NOT a racist or antisemitic. Nonsense. You've just been conditioned to think that black people can't be racist. |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 20, 2024 12:56:10 GMT
Couldn’t you apply the same logic to Hester? Its a simple uestion. You are not living in the world of reality When a person states that "she should be shot", how do YOU interpret that ?. for me it means that Hester believes that ... she should be shot. When Diane Abbott suggested that minorities who are white do not suffer the same levels of racism, some idiots interpreted that to mean she is antisemitic, yet she did not say anything which was specifically anti Jewish. I reiterate that the Labour Party ( and the rest of society ) are so over sensetive to antisemitism, that they are frightened to say anything, because it is always misinterpretated. As for so called "Anti Semitism Courses", the Israeli lobbyists have got us by the balls, THEY ( the Israeli government ), want any criticism of them to be classed as antisemitic, and for my part they can go and take a running jump, I am certainly not anti Jewish, but I AM bitterly opposed to the Israeli government. I am also opposed to Nutanyahu’s govt and in an earlier post on this thread described how when confronted with some extremely obstructive council officials said they should be taken out and shot,they were all white and also all useless though it was a figure of speech and not meant literally I also told them I wouldn’t pay them in washers another figure of speech. It is you not living in the real world “my feet are killing me” or “you are a pain in the arse” are all figures of speech,have you never seen some kid being a real pita for an exasperated parent who finally snaps and says “do that again and I’ll kill you” which is not meant as said at all. When you said this did you not spot the irony in that? I’ve seen real racism and I’ve seen some black people use racist card and it’s resulted in what you described above. You really need to get a sense of proportion. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 20, 2024 13:01:33 GMT
You are not living in the world of reality When a person states that "she should be shot", how do YOU interpret that ?. for me it means that Hester believes that ... she should be shot... Are you autistic? In the real world, there are things called "Expressions". And they're not meant to be taken literally. The other day at work a colleague farted. Someone else caught a whiff and said: "You should be shot." Not meant literally. "My feet are killing me." Not literally. "I'm going to finish this job if it kills me." Not literally. If you can't understand that then you're thick as two short planks. Not literally. Although in your case I'm beginning to wonder.🤣 |
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 20, 2024 13:12:09 GMT
You are not living in the world of reality When a person states that "she should be shot", how do YOU interpret that ?. for me it means that Hester believes that ... she should be shot... Are you autistic? In the real world, there are things called "Expressions". And they're not meant to be taken literally. The other day at work a colleague farted. Someone else caught a whiff and said: "You should be shot." Not meant literally. "My feet are killing me." Not literally. "I'm going to finish this job if it kills me." Not literally. If you can't understand that then you're thick as two short planks. Not literally. Although in your case I'm beginning to wonder.🤣 ANYONE, but particularly anyone who is an influentual figure, should not make statements of a political nature which are at the very least ambiguous, or which can easily be interpreted to mean more than one thing, and therby attract attention for the wrong reasons. For Hester to say that he DID NOT mean that Diane Abbott "should be shot" when he said "she should be shot" and also that he did not mean to be racist when he said "she makes you want to hate all black women" is rather pathetic. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 20, 2024 13:17:06 GMT
Are you autistic? In the real world, there are things called "Expressions". And they're not meant to be taken literally. The other day at work a colleague farted. Someone else caught a whiff and said: "You should be shot." Not meant literally. "My feet are killing me." Not literally. "I'm going to finish this job if it kills me." Not literally. If you can't understand that then you're thick as two short planks. Not literally. Although in your case I'm beginning to wonder.🤣 ANYONE, but particularly anyone who is an influentual figure, should not make statements of a political nature which are at the very least ambiguous, or which can easily be interpreted to mean more than one thing, and therby attract attention for the wrong reasons. For Hester to say that he DID NOT mean that Diane Abbott "should be shot" when he said "she should be shot" and also that he did not mean to be racist when he said "she makes you want to hate all black women" is rather pathetic. Or you are. And enquiring minds think the latter. |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 20, 2024 14:04:26 GMT
Hester didn’t say Abbott should be shot because she is black . Hester didn’t call for Abbott to be murdered . He used an inappropriate phrase . Id hate to be standing next you and say ‘ Fuck me ‘ or ‘ you can shove that up your arse’. I suspect that you would be calling the police about sexual harassment . Why are you mitigating what Hester said with What aboutry |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 20, 2024 16:46:21 GMT
Hester didn’t say Abbott should be shot because she is black . Hester didn’t call for Abbott to be murdered . He used an inappropriate phrase . Id hate to be standing next you and say ‘ Fuck me ‘ or ‘ you can shove that up your arse’. I suspect that you would be calling the police about sexual harassment . Why are you mitigating what Hester said with What aboutry Nothing in the post you replied to alluded to Whataboutery or described whataboutery. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2024 17:25:32 GMT
Hester didn’t say Abbott should be shot because she is black . Hester didn’t call for Abbott to be murdered . He used an inappropriate phrase . Id hate to be standing next you and say ‘ Fuck me ‘ or ‘ you can shove that up your arse’. I suspect that you would be calling the police about sexual harassment . Why are you mitigating what Hester said with What aboutry Whataboutery is always the last desperate response when they cannot defend the indefensible with reasoned argument. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 22, 2024 13:27:46 GMT
And... now West Yorkshire Police are investigating Hester to see if a crime was committed.
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Post by wapentake on Mar 22, 2024 13:32:57 GMT
Why are you mitigating what Hester said with What aboutry Whataboutery is always the last desperate response when they cannot defend the indefensible with reasoned argument. Citing whataboutery is indeed desperate,it is a manoeuvre to try to shut down legitimate debate and any reasoned response. |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 22, 2024 14:09:26 GMT
And... now West Yorkshire Police are investigating Hester to see if a crime was committed. But ignore burglaries, car thefts, minor assaults and phone stealing where they know for definite a crime has been committed. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 22, 2024 14:18:17 GMT
And... now West Yorkshire Police are investigating Hester to see if a crime was committed. But ignore burglaries, car thefts, minor assaults and phone stealing where they know for definite a crime has been committed. They have to get their priorities right, Diane Abbott has her feelings hurt. |
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