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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 19, 2024 13:24:02 GMT
...And for the record, my dislike of Netanyahu is not a valid reason for me to dislike all Jewish men... That's what Hester said in relation to Abbot, Shrieks. And you still think he's a racist. So, by your own logic, you must be an anti-Semite. Glad you can admit it, Shrieks. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 19, 2024 13:24:25 GMT
I see the chuckle brothers are alive and well, aka Hugh Janus and R Sole, of Belle End, Bollocksville to me. to you. to me  |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 19, 2024 13:37:38 GMT
Neither is Hester ..or me. However it’s you that drips bitterness , false accusations and hatred of others. If you are too stupid to know that Heston is a racist, when even the party he supports has admitted as much, then clearly you ARE a racist yourself. Nothing in the quote indicates that he is a racist . In fact he says that he doesn’t hate black women or thinks they are all like the racist Abbott. I can clearly read a sentence without a shoulder chip to translate it . The party he supports didn’t think so but seems to have conceded to the lefties with big mouths and little brains ..ones like you . |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 19, 2024 13:47:25 GMT
@srb7677 No reply was the answer? Actually I had decided to enjoy a few relaxing beers and decided that all the racist bigots in denial in this thread - not including you in that - were best avoided when drinking. Too big a risk of me saying something I might regret. If I said what I really thought about one or two of them, using the language most suited to that, I would definitely get myself in trouble with the mods. lol Anyway I am here now for a short time. Insofar as hard right racism being a lesson we need to learn, as you seem to be saying, we have been there before. It led to the most destructive war in human history and the deaths of millions in gas chambers. The lesson we need to learn from the hard right is what it has led to in the post. They tend to nurture and feed off hate, othering scapegoat groups. In 1930s Germany it was the Jews. In Europe today it is Muslims. You appear to have learned nothing from history insofar as the hard right are concerned. Yes, all forms of extremism, including religious extremism is bad and ought to be discouraged. But to blame all Muslims for the crimes of a few is tactic number one in the bigot's playbook. Anyway, I have to go now because I have a life away from this forum, so please do not interpret a lack of response as a deliberate omission. I never even noticed the post I am now responding to until this morning. For some reason not every quote of me is triggering a notification. Yours didn't. No idea why. Well thanks for at last someone replying,tbh I remember that the Scandinavian liberal democracies were not that many years ago held up as an example of how welcoming they were to asylum seekers from the Muslim world and were everything we were not to our apparent shame. A few years on and how things have changed through what they have experienced,tbh I don’t see them as hard right racists more that their welcome has been used and abused nor are they looking for scapegoats more they are shell shocked at how events have turned. Nobody as I see it is blaming all Muslims for the crimes of some,as I see it the issue is that we are being overwhelmed by numbers and movement of people many of whom we have no idea of their intentions or past criminality. This country has over hundreds of years successfully absorbed various waves of immigrants who have brought their cultures but not attempted to make their culture ours. There are some in the Muslim community who make their intentions all too apparent,I and I suspect many have no problem with a Muslim community that accepts our culture and mores but the narrative is that if you say so you are a right wing racist. Recently (and I’m not a bbc basher)they were looking at airing a piece on local communities reactions to those appearing from across the channel,what I suspect they hoped for was a lot of Tommy Robinson supporting ranting and raving thugs,what they got was ordinary people calmly relaying their fears and concerns ina measured way,so what happened nothing was aired and you have to ask why was that. Its all too easy to label people’s legitimate concerns as right wing racism,I was watching the daily politics and a discussion on this the politicians all said pretty much that we don’t know who these people are where they’re from but if they say they are in fear of persecution we have to take them in. What that tells me is that the asylum process needs a long hard look at,international agreements need changing rapidly or we go our own way. Movement of people is going to escalate massively,if our politicians stand by and do nothing then you really might see the hard right successfully exploiting this,and that’s the point imo because the hard right are being used at the moment as a scare tactic to shut ordinary people up. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 19, 2024 13:51:45 GMT
Hester should have called her bluff, said he'll apologise to her only if she apologises for her Jewish/Irish Racist comments, which is the reason she got kicked out of the Labour party.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 19, 2024 14:17:40 GMT
Neither is Hester ..or me. However it’s you that drips bitterness , false accusations and hatred of others. If you are too stupid to know that Heston is a racist, when even the party he supports has admitted as much, then clearly you ARE a racist yourself. Think of the logic of that post ^^, 'Heston is a racist, when even the party he supports has admitted as much'
Labour obviously think that Abbott is also a racist, 'when even the party she supports has admitted as much' ........ by KICKING her out of it.
Just have a long hard think about YOUR twisted logic.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2024 15:41:56 GMT
...And for the record, my dislike of Netanyahu is not a valid reason for me to dislike all Jewish men... That's what Hester said in relation to Abbot, Shrieks. And you still think he's a racist. So, by your own logic, you must be an anti-Semite. Glad you can admit it, Shrieks. Actually he pretty much said the exact opposite, that Diane Abbot was almost enough to make him hate all black women. I definitely never said that Netanyahu was almost enough to make me hate all Jewish men. Clearly you are another one who struggles to understand plain English |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2024 15:44:09 GMT
Hester should have called her bluff, said he'll apologise to her only if she apologises for her Jewish/Irish Racist comments, which is the reason she got kicked out of the Labour party. She already has apologised, ages ago. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 19, 2024 15:56:20 GMT
Hester should have called her bluff, said he'll apologise to her only if she apologises for her Jewish/Irish Racist comments, which is the reason she got kicked out of the Labour party. She already has apologised, ages ago. Whatever ...
Diane Abbott denies she ‘refused to take antisemitism course to rejoin Labour’
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 19, 2024 15:58:13 GMT
Abbott has not rejoined Labour, so she must have 'refused' to take a antisemitism course to rejoin Labour.... hahaha
How much more evidence do you need to know that Abbott is a BIG FAT RACIST.
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Post by sandypine on Mar 19, 2024 18:48:38 GMT
He did not say it was a legitimate reason he indicated it was a pressure to feel that way and he said he did not despite that pressure. So once again he said he was not racist and got called racist for actually saying that. Almost everyone in the media and in politics can see obvious racism when it broadcasts itself, even the ones he donated the money to. Are they all stupid? Or are you not seeing what is obvious to most others because you don't want to? Hester may well have legitimate reasons for disliking Abbott that have nothing to do with skin colour. Her politics or her conduct for example. But to then link this dislike to her colour which no non-racist would even have mentioned and suggesting that it almost made him want to hate all other black women, most of whom have nothing in common with Abbott besides skin colour and gender, is clearly racist. And only an idiot or another racist in denial would fail to understand that. Obvious racism is quite easy to define, it is the rather more oblique racism that fills the minds of the eternally offended that is harder to define as it seems mentioning race in this instance is racist. It is a bit strange in that no non-racist would have mentioned her colour according to you yet her colour is mentioned by so called non-racists almost on a daily basis. The new First Minister of Wales has had his colour mentioned almost to the exclusion of everything else and mentioned it himself several times. Unless of course he has an affinity for other black people as part of a group which you seem to say is wrong as no black person has anything in common with him other than skin colour and gender. It is a serious problem in logical thought. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2024 18:49:30 GMT
Abbott has not rejoined Labour, so she must have 'refused' to take a antisemitism course to rejoin Labour.... hahaha How much more evidence do you need to know that Abbott is a BIG FAT RACIST. Pot calling the kettle black from a racist such as you. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 19, 2024 20:36:00 GMT
She already has apologised, ages ago. Whatever ...
Diane Abbott denies she ‘refused to take antisemitism course to rejoin Labour’
Tbf, and I cant believe I'm going to say this, but in all honesty she was quite right to refuse to do this antisemitism course. Whether she or anyone else does one these useless browbeating left wing bullshit inclusion diversity virtue seeking courses and there are loads of them, will not change opinions, in fact it may have the reverse effect because they make people feel bullied and resentful. Woke courses are nothing more than box ticking exercises designed to appease and ease the consciences of weak thin skinned people who see offence in everything. |
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 19, 2024 21:19:18 GMT
Maybe becase Diane Abbott has never said anything which is Antisemitic
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Post by jonksy on Mar 19, 2024 21:27:07 GMT
Maybe becase Diane Abbott has never said anything which is Antisemitic Still pollishing the same old turd then fiddles...FFS Are you fucking deaf as well as blind?
Diane Abbott's comments were antisemitic, Labour leader says...
Diane Abbott’s comments on racism were antisemitic, says Keir Starmer....
Diane Abbott's long history of antisemitism controversies...
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