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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2024 20:30:45 GMT
On what basis do you call me an antisemite? I do not hate Jews. Where is your evidence? Or are you as ever posting throwaway slurs as a form of shit, hoping that some of it will stick? Starmer would probably give you a job if you tell him about this, Well thing is, Shrieks... I call you "Shrieks" because you have a long history of shrieking "Racist" at anyone that disagrees with you, however minutely. Many on the left do. It's a lefty thing.
But at the same time, many on the left are actively anti-Semitic. Indeed, the Labour Party have had to repeatedly apologise for it.
So if it's acceptable for you to presume that anyone to your right is a de-facto "Racist" (because you say so), then it is equally valid for me to presume that anyone to the left of my politics is anti-Semitic (albeit with considerably more evidence).
Fair is, after all, fair.
And if you want evidence, well it's in the same place as your evidence that I'm a racist.
So suck it up, Buttercup. Ok shithead. And for the record I do not assume that everyone to the right of me is a racist. But I think you are. Your evidence for my antisemitism is presumably pending? My evidence for your racism is your conduct in this thread. Where is your evidence for my antisemitism? Methinks it is just another lazy slur
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 18, 2024 20:32:13 GMT
Well thing is, Shrieks... I call you "Shrieks" because you have a long history of shrieking "Racist" at anyone that disagrees with you, however minutely. Many on the left do. It's a lefty thing.
But at the same time, many on the left are actively anti-Semitic. Indeed, the Labour Party have had to repeatedly apologise for it.
So if it's acceptable for you to presume that anyone to your right is a de-facto "Racist" (because you say so), then it is equally valid for me to presume that anyone to the left of my politics is anti-Semitic (albeit with considerably more evidence).
Fair is, after all, fair.
And if you want evidence, well it's in the same place as your evidence that I'm a racist.
So suck it up, Buttercup. Ok shithead. And for the record I do not assume that everyone to the right of me is a racist. But I think you are. Your evidence for my antisemitism is presumably pending? My evidence for your racism is your conduct in this thread. Where is your evidence for my antisemitism? Methinks it is just another lazy slur Same place as yours, Buttercup.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2024 20:32:32 GMT
We are offended by ageing racists who think their kneejerk racism is ok. But most of them will be dead in 20 years and the UK will move on without them. Their obvious desire to return to some mythical golden age of the 1950s is looking truly daft to most of us. Including me of an age not far removed from them, but in tune with my younger friends and relatives. I am aware of how my generation and yours have stolen their futures and think they are shit for not dealing with it whilst wishing to impose upon them your own negative values and bigotries. When you are gone they will despise your memory and legacy as they cope with the shit you left them. I hope to be remembered as one of the ones who was on their side. You lot just have malice for them and their future, whilst being happy to leech off them now Now..read your own post again. Nothing but a construct created by you for the express reason to hate a group of people . Same old tropes , same old bitterness , same old chip on the shoulder that you possess projected to others . You are the very thing you claim to hate . You have merely confirmed the post that you replied to. I need say no more than ask others to look at your conduct in this thread and my responses to it to see who might be racist and who might not be
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Post by Bentley on Mar 18, 2024 20:32:47 GMT
No Hester did quite a lot wrong . He made a remark that he knew would leave him open to accusation of racism but trusted the people around him. His point was that Abbott ( the racist ) was so awful that it soured his view of women like her but he doesn’t hate them. Had he left it there then he might just might have got away with this diatribe against Abbott. But he said that she should be shot …stupid thing to say . I called you are a dimwit because you are .No other reason . I’m not thick because I pointed out your false claim . I’m not racist because I pointed out your false claim . Im not thick because I pointed out that you are a dimwit . I’m not offended by a dimwit calling me thick . Your obvious inability to recognise obvious racism makes you - to coin your favourite insult - the dimwit. There we go. No matter how many times the obvious is pointed out , you won’t concede it. Because you are too bitter and too thick . You have your little bit of hatred in your hand and no way are you letting that go.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 18, 2024 20:37:09 GMT
Now..read your own post again. Nothing but a construct created by you for the express reason to hate a group of people . Same old tropes , same old bitterness , same old chip on the shoulder that you possess projected to others . You are the very thing you claim to hate . You have merely confirmed the post that you replied to. I need sat no more than ask others to look at your conduct in this thread and my responses to it to see who might be racist and who might no be My conduct ? lol. You 3rd post ..” Something you and the other transparently obvious white racists around here will never understand because in your inner souls you believe racism is okay unless directed at white people. A double standard that leaves your true selves naked in the spotlight for all to see.”If they don’t agree with you , your first defence is to demonise them , then tell them that they are less intelligent than you , then cry because they call, you names . Are you that bereft of self awareness to think that people who take you up on this won’t see it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2024 20:37:14 GMT
Ok shithead. And for the record I do not assume that everyone to the right of me is a racist. But I think you are. Your evidence for my antisemitism is presumably pending? My evidence for your racism is your conduct in this thread. Where is your evidence for my antisemitism? Methinks it is just another lazy slur Same place as yours, Buttercup. You have none. You are the one lying about me being an antisemite. The onus is on you to back it up. I do not have to offer evidence to refute an unfounded allegation in the absence of supporting evidence for it. In the absence of evidence, your accusation is bullshit. So shove that up your ass, buttercup, lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2024 20:38:33 GMT
Your obvious inability to recognise obvious racism makes you - to coin your favourite insult - the dimwit. There we go. No matter how many times the obvious is pointed out , you won’t concede it. Because you are too bitter and too thick . You have your little bit of hatred in your hand and no way are you letting that go. I'm not the racist around here, sunshine.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 18, 2024 20:40:50 GMT
Same place as yours, Buttercup. You have none. You are the one lying about me being an antisemite. The onus is on you to back it up. I do not have to offer evidence to refute an unfounded allegation in the absence of supporting evidence for it. In the absence of evidence, your accusation is bullshit. So shove that up your ass, buttercup, lol Demands evidence for opponents argument while unable to provide evidence for own argument. Then objects to being called “Dimwit”. I rest my case, my unlearned (and anti-Semitic) “Friend”.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 18, 2024 20:40:59 GMT
There we go. No matter how many times the obvious is pointed out , you won’t concede it. Because you are too bitter and too thick . You have your little bit of hatred in your hand and no way are you letting that go. I'm not the racist around here, sunshine. Neither is Hester ..or me. However it’s you that drips bitterness , false accusations and hatred of others.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 18, 2024 20:48:06 GMT
I'm not the racist around here, sunshine. Neither is Heston ..or me. However it’s you that drips bitterness , false accusations and hatred of others. And that's the thing isn't it: Shrieks is demonstrably guilty of hatred, yet wants to make hatred a crime... For others.
It's the hypocrisy of the left writ large, again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2024 11:34:11 GMT
I'm not the racist around here, sunshine. Neither is Hester ..or me. However it’s you that drips bitterness , false accusations and hatred of others. If you are too stupid to know that Heston is a racist, when even the party he supports has admitted as much, then clearly you ARE a racist yourself.
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Post by wapentake on Mar 19, 2024 11:39:06 GMT
I am surprised that someone with your intelligence is joining the usual suspects in defence of the indefensible, in your case attempting to combine whataboutery with minimisation. But then again you did vote for Boris Johnson so I suppose I am expecting too much. Minimisation? What you mean like Abbott claiming Jews don’t suffer lifetime racism,you believe that really? I’m no defender of what’s going on in Gaza but Jews aren’t Nutanyahu and the Middle Easts problems don’t belong here nor do it’s people and their religious wars. Much of our problems are down to Blair and others trying to impose western values and influence and the disaster of pushing the Arab spring,they should’ve been left to make their own way in their own time. Indefensible? Let me ask you the question I’ve put to others ( with no reply) any questions regarding asylum seekers and Stone Age religious values are met with the usual racist tag,anyway to the question,the once liberal Scandinavian societies that opened their doors and were held as the example of this countries shortcomings are now rowing back on a massive error so do you believe those people went from that liberal outlook to now hard right racism or did they learn a lesson our country has to? @srb7677 No reply was the answer?
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Post by sandypine on Mar 19, 2024 11:40:40 GMT
Then you are misled he said it all in the course of the comments he made, the final part was the shot bit. Herein lies the problem you have taken one part entirely out of the context of the whole. The qualification was within the comments not tacked on as a defence later. EDIT The full comments made were as reported by the Guardian "It's like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you're just like I hate, you just want to hate all black women because she's there, and I don't hate all black women at all, but I think she should be shot." So it is clear in those comments that he states that he does not hate all black women despite the image of Mz Abbott making that an understandable consequence. It is strange that the left will stand by what people say when they think they can get a bit of traction but when he says he does not hate all black women in the same sentence it is ignored. So thats okay then, lol Well it clearly shows you were wrong in your take on what was said and when. All MPs are insulted on various occasions but this is clearly not racist.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 19, 2024 11:40:55 GMT
Neither is Hester ..or me. However it’s you that drips bitterness , false accusations and hatred of others. If you are too stupid to know that Heston is a racist, when even the party he supports has admitted as much, then clearly you ARE a racist yourself. And by YOUR very own logic that would also make Diane Abbott a racist ...
Ms Abbott had served as a Labour MP since 1987, but was suspended from sitting in the parliamentary party in 2023 after she said Irish, Jewish and Traveller people were not subject to racism "all their lives". She withdrew her remarks and apologised "for any anguish caused"
Labour MP Diane Abbott has had the whip suspended following remarks in which she suggested Jewish people do not face racism, but instead suffer prejudice similar to "redheads".
Abbott is the worst kind of racist, because she believes it's only Black people who can be victims of racism, and she plays that racist card to perfection.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2024 12:04:00 GMT
Neither is Heston ..or me. However it’s you that drips bitterness , false accusations and hatred of others. And that's the thing isn't it: Shrieks is demonstrably guilty of hatred, yet wants to make hatred a crime... For others.
It's the hypocrisy of the left writ large, again. We are all capable of feeling hatred. It is a normal reaction in response to certain situations. If some twat raped your wife you will most definitely hate him. Anyone would. But whilst hating people for the wrongs they have done to you or others can be a natural and understandable reaction if the things done are bad enough, hating people for their skin colour, or gender, or sexual orientation and stupid shit like that is moronic. Anyone who for example hates black people is best advised to keep it to themselves. To express hatred for such reasons openly is a potential hate crime. If you did it in most workplaces you would lose your job. I have known a colleague to be sacked for exactly that, having been stupid enough to post an anti-muslim rant on Facebook, made worse by the fact that we had a well liked and decent colleague who happened to be an Egyptian and a Muslim working with us at the time. Hatred for what people are rather than for any wrongs they have done as individuals is rightly becoming increasingly unacceptable, however much the ageing knuckle draggers around here mourn the passing of an age where it was okay to call someone a n*gger. But of course they are not racists, oh deary me no. Because in their world suggesting that because a woman that they hate presumably because of her politics happens to be black, and suggesting that this is a legitimate reason for hating all other black women whose only thing in common with Abbot is skin colour and gender is somehow not racist at all. This clearly signposts either ignorance and stupidity or racism to anyone who is not at least subconsciously racist themselves. Just about the entirety of the commentariat and parliament can see it for what it is. Hardly anyone does not see it. Except the usual suspect saddoes around here. And you are indeed a sad and sorry bunch, barking at the moon as if anyone cares about your petty bigotries. Your time is passing. Britain is moving on without you. My generation and yours will all be going gaga in some care home in a decade or two, whilst many others will have shuffled off this earth to whatever awaits them in the afterlife. The yesteryear you all hanker after, a world where whites were assumed to be superior and on top, and where non-whites and women knew their place, is gone forever. You are irrelevant to the future.
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