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Post by Pacifico on Mar 15, 2024 22:15:03 GMT
What is valid is that if a tiny percentage of Muslims are militant (and I question your idea of tiny) the ability to cause great harm exists hence the reference to the holocaust. What is valid that if, as you referenced in the Holocaust comment, a tiny percentage of Germans were able to kill 10 million people then surely all Germans must be considered Extremists.They were - we didn't discriminate when dropping bombs on them from 30,000 feet. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 15, 2024 22:24:06 GMT
You started a thread about Satanic Paedophiles. Satan can only exist if the Christian God exists, because Satan like all angels (fallen or otherwise) were created by the Christian God.
It is not too far of a leap then to infer that as you clearly believe in the Christian God, then you also believe in the Bible. If you are saying you don't believe in the Bible, or the Christian God then that is fine, and I'll assume every post you make from now is built on false premises that you don't believe. All The Best Oh. I always thought that angels appear in the Old Testament as well as the New. Am I mistaken?
All the best to you too.
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 15, 2024 23:19:50 GMT
You started a thread about Satanic Paedophiles. Satan can only exist if the Christian God exists, because Satan like all angels (fallen or otherwise) were created by the Christian God. It is not too far of a leap then to infer that as you clearly believe in the Christian God, then you also believe in the Bible. If you are saying you don't believe in the Bible, or the Christian God then that is fine, and I'll assume every post you make from now is built on false premises that you don't believe. All The Best Satan can exist in the minds of those who believe, Nope, Satan either exists, or he does not, as a matter of fact; belief has nothing at all to do with it, that is not how reality works. If it did we'd all be millionaires just by believing that we are. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 15, 2024 23:21:31 GMT
You started a thread about Satanic Paedophiles. Satan can only exist if the Christian God exists, because Satan like all angels (fallen or otherwise) were created by the Christian God.
It is not too far of a leap then to infer that as you clearly believe in the Christian God, then you also believe in the Bible. If you are saying you don't believe in the Bible, or the Christian God then that is fine, and I'll assume every post you make from now is built on false premises that you don't believe. All The Best Oh. I always thought that angels appear in the Old Testament as well as the New. Am I mistaken?
All the best to you too.
Yes, they do. Your point is? All The Best |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 15, 2024 23:28:33 GMT
Satan can exist in the minds of those who believe, Nope, Satan either exists, or he does not, as a matter of fact; belief has nothing at all to do with it, that is not how reality works. If it did we'd all be millionaires just by believing that we are. All The Best What you don’t get is one man’s reality is another’s fantasy,the workings of the mind are still a mystery to experts as you have so amply proved. |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 15, 2024 23:30:15 GMT
Nope, Satan either exists, or he does not, as a matter of fact; belief has nothing at all to do with it, that is not how reality works. If it did we'd all be millionaires just by believing that we are. All The Best What you don’t get is one man’s reality is another’s fantasy,the workings of the mind are still a mystery to experts as you have so amply proved.I forgot to add you believe you’re right which is stretching things. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 16, 2024 0:59:39 GMT
Where have I said that I believed in that? You started a thread about Satanic Paedophiles. Jimmy Savile reportedly was one, despite being officially Catholic. And his body was buried at a 45 degree angle. I'll condemn any ideology that does harm to others. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 16, 2024 2:28:21 GMT
Nope, Satan either exists, or he does not, as a matter of fact; belief has nothing at all to do with it, that is not how reality works. If it did we'd all be millionaires just by believing that we are. All The Best What you don’t get is one man’s reality is another’s fantasy,the workings of the mind are still a mystery to experts as you have so amply proved. Nope. There is only one reality. Everything else is either self-delusion or lack of understanding. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 16, 2024 2:33:28 GMT
You started a thread about Satanic Paedophiles. Jimmy Savile reportedly was one, despite being officially Catholic. And his body was buried at a 45 degree angle. I'll condemn any ideology that does harm to others. Is there an established link between Satanism and being buried at a 45 degree angle? I've certainly never come across that before, and I have studied the basics of many religions. So you'll condemn Christianity and Judaism as well? All proselyting religions tend to cause harm to others, because at some point they believe that forcible conversions, or punishment for apostasy are justifiable. All The Best |
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 16, 2024 5:48:30 GMT
Archbishops of Canterbury and York warn against new extremism definition Clerics say Michael Gove’s anti-extremism strategy risks targeting Muslims and may threaten freedom of speech and peaceful protest Nadeem Badshah Tue 12 Mar 2024 19.47 EDT In a joint statement, Justin Welby and Stephen Cottrell said labelling a multifaceted problem as hateful extremism may “vilify the wrong people and risk yet more division”. The statement added: “The new definition being proposed not only inadvertently threatens freedom of speech, but also the right to worship and peaceful protest – things that have been hard won and form the fabric of a civilised society. “Crucially, it risks disproportionately targeting Muslim communities, who are already experiencing rising levels of hate and abuse. “We are concerned – like so many others – by its implications for public life. We join calls for the government to reconsider its approach and instead have a broad-based conversation with all those who it will affect. After what we have witnessed in Parliament recently where people's lives were considered to be threatened, then it called for counter-action measures to safeguard Britain's democracy. Whether Gove's actions will work or not are another matter, but if MP's were in fear of their lives for voting the wrong way then you can hardly expect government officials to sit on their hands doing nothing about it. |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 16, 2024 7:22:21 GMT
What you don’t get is one man’s reality is another’s fantasy,the workings of the mind are still a mystery to experts as you have so amply proved. Nope. There is only one reality. Everything else is either self-delusion or lack of understanding.All The Best As you have so amply proved (I repeat) Also and just an observation why don’t you make “All The Best” your signature save you a heap of time and tapping out every day which is a useful piece of realty  |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 16, 2024 8:07:57 GMT
In one case which came to light after his death, Jimmy Savile spoke the words "Ave Satanas", whilst abusing.
Google it.
You don't have to believe in Satan to recognise that there are abusers who do.
Where ideology is doing harm, where people are doing harm, I will criticise.
Where people are doing no harm, I will not criticise.
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 16, 2024 8:12:53 GMT
What is valid that if, as you referenced in the Holocaust comment, a tiny percentage of Germans were able to kill 10 million people then surely all Germans must be considered Extremists.They were - we didn't discriminate when dropping bombs on them from 30,000 feet. To me that sounds suspiciously similar to the justification used by the likes of the 7/7 bombers or the IRA. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 16, 2024 9:27:13 GMT
Nope. There is only one reality. Everything else is either self-delusion or lack of understanding.All The Best As you have so amply proved (I repeat) Also and just an observation why don’t you make “All The Best” your signature save you a heap of time and tapping out every day which is a useful piece of realty I am well aware I can be wrong, I am well aware I don't understand everything; neither of those admissions detract from the fact that there is only one reality. There is no such thing as "plurality of truth", there just isn't. If "All The Best" was in my signature then it would attach to all my posts; I don't necessarily want that to be the case. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 16, 2024 9:27:54 GMT
They were - we didn't discriminate when dropping bombs on them from 30,000 feet. To me that sounds suspiciously similar to the justification used by the likes of the 7/7 bombers or the IRA. Exactly. All The Best |
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