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Post by see2 on Mar 12, 2024 9:00:40 GMT
India to enforce Muslim exclusion from citizenship. --"Historian Mukul Kesavan said the law is "couched in the language of refuge and seemingly directed at foreigners, but its main purpose is the delegitimisation of Muslims' citizenship".-- www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-50670393 |
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 12, 2024 9:25:23 GMT
Muslims, courtesy of Islam make a rod for their own back. They've got to be one of the largest group of people who constantly have issues within host nations, or with their own governments and different secs. Their religion, beliefs and practices are stuck in a land before time.  I have little sympathy for them to be perfectly honest. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 12, 2024 11:44:53 GMT
Muslims, courtesy of Islam make a rod for their own back. They've got to be one of the largest group of people who constantly have issues within host nations, or with their own governments and different secs. Their religion, beliefs and practices are stuck in a land before time. I have little sympathy for them to be perfectly honest. I have no problem with good people whatever their religion but I do have a problem with Islam the religion. Because of the self indoctrination practice of Islam the religion, emotional / religious beliefs take an extra level of control over the logical part of the brain. The human brain has the advantage of being able to apply logic and reason, this advantage should not be diluted by something that is in the end just a belief. I'm pretty certain that the UK will have a problem with Muslims in this country at some stage. In an exchange of posts with one Muslim some time ago, I was told that England will become a Muslim country, and that English Laws would actually help that to happen. |
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Post by Orac on Mar 12, 2024 11:57:48 GMT
I was told by a Muslim fellow pupil when I was about nine that islam will be victorious over the uk. It seemed a bit fanciful at the time as he was the only Muslim in the class.
Five years later i started to wonder if he may have had a point - now i can see no other conclusion without a big change in direction.
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 12, 2024 12:31:11 GMT
I was told the same thing back in the late 90's by a Muslim in Hockwell Ring, Luton.
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Post by Hutchyns on Mar 12, 2024 12:37:47 GMT
I was told by a Muslim fellow pupil when I was about nine that islam will be victorious over the uk. It seemed a bit fanciful at the time as he was the only Muslim in the class. Five years later i started to wonder if he may have had a point - now i can see no other conclusion without a big change in direction. Maybe we should spend more time considering the advantages, rather than dwelling on perceived negatives ? For instance just this morning I've read through pages with Forum members in fevered discussion trying to decide whether a trans this or a trans that should be in the Mens Toilets or the Women's .... or whether Unisex bogs will soon be with us. Islamic Britain will sweep away all of that nonsense ..... it'll be just like old fashioned British values with a few hefty dollops of compulsory religion. Nothing we can't adjust to and get to like  . |
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 12, 2024 12:42:39 GMT
I was told by a Muslim fellow pupil when I was about nine that islam will be victorious over the uk. It seemed a bit fanciful at the time as he was the only Muslim in the class. Five years later i started to wonder if he may have had a point - now i can see no other conclusion without a big change in direction. Maybe we should spend more time considering the advantages, rather than dwelling on perceived negatives ? For instance just this morning I've read through pages with Forum members in fevered discussion trying to decide whether a trans this or a trans that should be in the Mens Toilets or the Women's .... or whether Unisex bogs will soon be with us. Islamic Britain will sweep away all of that nonsense ..... it'll be just like old fashioned British values with a few hefty dollops of compulsory religion. Nothing we can't adjust to and get to like . Yeah, but I love a bacon sarnie, and roast pork! |
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Post by Hutchyns on Mar 12, 2024 12:53:57 GMT
buccaneer You might still get chance to eat a couple more of those ....but once both hands are chopped off, you'll find picking up a sandwich of any variety substantially more difficult. It'll boil down to a straight choice, we'll either continue on our present course towards Woke World, where it's ants and bugs on the menu or some plasticy tasting, grown in a lab meat substitute, or we embrace Islamic Britain instead ...... no pork at either destination I'm afraid  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2024 13:23:27 GMT
India to enforce Muslim exclusion from citizenship. --"Historian Mukul Kesavan said the law is "couched in the language of refuge and seemingly directed at foreigners, but its main purpose is the delegitimisation of Muslims' citizenship".-- www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-50670393They got their partition in Pakistan. Now they want more. No surprises. |
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Post by Orac on Mar 12, 2024 13:39:32 GMT
In my experience, if you are substantially critical of Islam in conversation with a Muslim, there is a fair chance they will tell you that you will be defeated and you and your family will be forced to submit. I think the social calculation is that, if it is clear you aren't going to be converted or persuaded, there is little point in any pretense.
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Post by see2 on Mar 12, 2024 20:27:20 GMT
I was told by a Muslim fellow pupil when I was about nine that islam will be victorious over the uk. It seemed a bit fanciful at the time as he was the only Muslim in the class. Five years later i started to wonder if he may have had a point - now i can see no other conclusion without a big change in direction. Maybe we should spend more time considering the advantages, rather than dwelling on perceived negatives ? For instance just this morning I've read through pages with Forum members in fevered discussion trying to decide whether a trans this or a trans that should be in the Mens Toilets or the Women's .... or whether Unisex bogs will soon be with us. Islamic Britain will sweep away all of that nonsense ..... it'll be just like old fashioned British values with a few hefty dollops of compulsory religion. Nothing we can't adjust to and get to like . There are absolutely no advantages in Islam that are not available to people outside of Islam. Islamic control would mean losing a lot of the advantages we already have. As I posted earlier I would not be surprised if this country had to make laws against the increasing demands of Muslims as the number of Muslims in the population expands. We have already sampled (misguided) Muslim influence in a Local election. |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 12, 2024 20:46:01 GMT
Maybe we should spend more time considering the advantages, rather than dwelling on perceived negatives ? For instance just this morning I've read through pages with Forum members in fevered discussion trying to decide whether a trans this or a trans that should be in the Mens Toilets or the Women's .... or whether Unisex bogs will soon be with us. Islamic Britain will sweep away all of that nonsense ..... it'll be just like old fashioned British values with a few hefty dollops of compulsory religion. Nothing we can't adjust to and get to like . There are absolutely no advantages in Islam that are not available to people outside of Islam. Islamic control would mean losing a lot of the advantages we already have. As I posted earlier I would not be surprised if this country had to make laws against the increasing demands of Muslims as the number of Muslims in the population expands. We have already sampled (misguided) Muslim influence in a Local election. It is the eternal problem in democracy recognised by all who participate, there is a Muslim vote, a black vote, a gay vote etc. This does not mean all vote one way but it does mean there is a preponderance to vote in one direction especially when a candidate appeals to a specific situation as Galloway unashamedly did. It does highlight why immigration should be a slow carefully controlled inflow to allow and encourage integration and assimilation and should not pander to different values. If we think Natural Selection should be taught in school as part of the curriculum then it should be taught to all. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 13, 2024 7:46:19 GMT
I was told by a Muslim fellow pupil when I was about nine that islam will be victorious over the uk. It seemed a bit fanciful at the time as he was the only Muslim in the class. Five years later i started to wonder if he may have had a point - now i can see no other conclusion without a big change in direction. Maybe we should spend more time considering the advantages, rather than dwelling on perceived negatives ? For instance just this morning I've read through pages with Forum members in fevered discussion trying to decide whether a trans this or a trans that should be in the Mens Toilets or the Women's .... or whether Unisex bogs will soon be with us. Islamic Britain will sweep away all of that nonsense ..... it'll be just like old fashioned British values with a few hefty dollops of compulsory religion. Nothing we can't adjust to and get to like . The irony is that one of the things that the muslims say they like about England is that they can practise their religion freely - which is not necessarily true in the Middle East countries that they emigrate from. Try being a Shia in a Sunni majority country - or try being an Ahmadi in any ME country. In other words they appreciate our "tolerance" - which is something we fought a war for. Unfortunately they refuse to reciprocate this tolerance. They don't even tolerate Christianity. And they reject free speech and want their own Sharia laws to apply (including the law on blasphemy etc). The basic fact is that we can't have a tolerant society if we allow intolerance in. It should be obvious to anyone with the full quota of brain cells, but it seems it isn't. The muslims will destroy our country. The partitioning of the subcontinent in 1948 was demanded by the muslims because they refused to tolerate other cultures or religions. They wanted their own muslim country - without the Hindus etc. So they were given it in the form of Pakistan and Bangladesh. But 75 years later it seems there are now more muslims in India than there are in Pakistan and Bangladesh because of illegal immigration. And they're causing trouble in India - just like they do wherever they go. Surely this is obvious. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 13, 2024 16:43:04 GMT
There are absolutely no advantages in Islam that are not available to people outside of Islam. Islamic control would mean losing a lot of the advantages we already have. As I posted earlier I would not be surprised if this country had to make laws against the increasing demands of Muslims as the number of Muslims in the population expands. We have already sampled (misguided) Muslim influence in a Local election. It is the eternal problem in democracy recognised by all who participate, there is a Muslim vote, a black vote, a gay vote etc. This does not mean all vote one way but it does mean there is a preponderance to vote in one direction especially when a candidate appeals to a specific situation as Galloway unashamedly did. It does highlight why immigration should be a slow carefully controlled inflow to allow and encourage integration and assimilation and should not pander to different values. If we think Natural Selection should be taught in school as part of the curriculum then it should be taught to all. I can understand the political bias in some ethnic minorities who may at times vote differently from one election to another. But Islam demands self indoctrination every day, and many of its followers follow food, dress, Arabic Language, pay respect to Mohammad whenever his name is mentioned, and even give Arabic names to those who convert to Islam. It is an all controlling religion that goes against many of the freedoms we take for granted. Because of the very high daily levels of self-indoctrination in Islam, 'Islam the religion' is like a cancer intentionally spreading itself through the world. It has been doing that ever since it began with Mohammad's dream sessions in a cave on a mountain. Any attempt to control it will most likely lead to violent reactions from its followers. To me 'Islam the Religion' (along with Muslims but not all Muslims) will defend their cult to the death. It is again IMO the worst and the most threatening of all cults that have ever existed. And has been made so, perhaps by, misguided followers. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 14, 2024 14:27:21 GMT
Part of the clarifications on extremism being issued by the government will, I believe, come as some relief to those concerned about Muslim / Islamic influence now and in the future within the UK. It includes 'seeking to undermine Britain's liberal democracy and tolerance'.
I feel sure that will upset those extremist elements that aim to do just that.
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