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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 13, 2024 15:19:41 GMT
You have an unhealthy habit of taking a different meaning to what I said. Your conclusion simply does not follow from the post I made. You need to do a rethink.
To be clear, my view is he has done nothing wrong and has been set up. Labour might find it hard to raise an extra 10-15m for their party, so why not go the other way and deplete the funds of your opposition.
By the way, I've had similar manipulation myself on social media in an attempt to either get me banned or even prosecuted. It's a low-down game.
It's true to say you haven't condemned all three equally. Your justification for doing so is acknowledged but it doesn't make the above statement any less true. These are good words of advice in general:
OK, so if I were in Mr Heston's shoes and this happened to me I would feel it was not cricket, so I avoid hypocrisy. don't do to others what you would not want done to you. I condemn the stitching up because i don't practice it myself and believe it is immoral. Labour must get head on merit, not subterfuge.
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 13, 2024 15:30:10 GMT
Apologies if this has already been mentioned - ref Frank Hesters donations to the Tory party and his subsequent comments. Guidio has just revealed that left wing eco maniac Dale Vince who has donated £2½ million to the Labour party says Hamas are freedom fighters not terrorists. I wonder, will Starmer be returning Dale Vince's donation? "will Starmer be returning Dale Vince's donation?" He most certainly should in my opinion. We both know Starmer wont return Dale Vinces donation, he cant afford to. But he will continue to demand that Sunak should return Frank Hesters donation. Starmer is a hypocrite. Yes I know, hardly news. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 13, 2024 15:33:57 GMT
"will Starmer be returning Dale Vince's donation?" He most certainly should in my opinion. We both know Starmer wont return Dale Vinces donation, he cant afford to. But he will continue to demand that Sunak should return Frank Hesters donation. Starmer is a hypocrite. Yes I know, hardly news. Yes we'll have the tax avoider screaming fish wife Rayner demanding the police get involved, resignations, inquiries, the usual blah blah blah from the lefty double standard hypocrites. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 13, 2024 16:02:52 GMT
We both know Starmer wont return Dale Vinces donation, he cant afford to. But he will continue to demand that Sunak should return Frank Hesters donation. Starmer is a hypocrite. Yes I know, hardly news. Yes we'll have the tax avoider screaming fish wife Rayner demanding the police get involved, resignations, inquiries, the usual blah blah blah from the lefty double standard hypocrites. David Lammy said Brexiteers were, oh ffs we're not allowed to say N*** are we, how should I word it... he said Brexiteers were members of the National Socialist German Workers party 1920 to 1945... if you follow. Dawn Butler said the only reason Suella Braverman was promoted to Home Secretary was because she was black. Diane Abbott said Jews do not suffer racism. Neil Coyle was suspended for racist comments etc etc. But here's a thing, I think politicians on both side of the house should grow a pair, especially Labour MP's. They should stop being so bloody outraged particularly Starmer, he's always outraged over something, yet he seems to forget about gaffes made by the people sitting behind him. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 13, 2024 16:12:21 GMT
Yes we'll have the tax avoider screaming fish wife Rayner demanding the police get involved, resignations, inquiries, the usual blah blah blah from the lefty double standard hypocrites. David Lammy said Brexiteers were, oh ffs we're not allowed to say N*** are we, how should I word it... he said Brexiteers were members of the National Socialist German Workers party 1920 to 1945... if you follow. Dawn Butler said the only reason Suella Braverman was promoted to Home Secretary was because she was black. Diane Abbott said Jews do not suffer racism. Neil Coyle was suspended for racist comments etc etc. But here's a thing, I think politicians on both side of the house should grow a pair, especially Labour MP's. They should stop being so bloody outraged particularly Starmer, he's always outraged over something, yet he seems to forget about gaffes made by the people sitting behind him. Problem with Starmer/Labour they don't think a head (well they don't think at all) but they play the political point scoring at any opportunity, they never give it a second thought with all their moralising that their behaviour might be called in to question in the future, Labour live for today, they are opportunists who will jump on the bandwagon if it can give them the slightest leg up the polling ladder. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 13, 2024 16:13:17 GMT
All of this is a smokescreen to hide the embarrassment of Angela ( two houses ) Rayner .
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 13, 2024 16:17:20 GMT
All of this is a smokescreen to hide the embarrassment of Angela ( two houses ) Rayner . Exactly, trying to bury bad news. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 13, 2024 16:18:10 GMT
"will Starmer be returning Dale Vince's donation?" He most certainly should in my opinion. We both know Starmer wont return Dale Vinces donation, he cant afford to. But he will continue to demand that Sunak should return Frank Hesters donation. Starmer is a hypocrite. Yes I know, hardly news. I used to chat regularly with a woman who knew him personally during the time he set his energy firm up. As a result of chatting to her I know how he set his business up and where he got the money from. The problem is I have since lost contact with her and therefore can not prove what I heard, and it was about 20 years ago as well. Even so I believe it to be the truth and if it ever got out then god knows what would happen. I can't say because of the seriousness of the allegation and how much damage it could cause him. So do bear in mind that he might be on very shaky ground if his past ever caught up with him. Labour would not appreciate it one bit. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 13, 2024 16:18:16 GMT
David Lammy said Brexiteers were, oh ffs we're not allowed to say N*** are we, how should I word it... he said Brexiteers were members of the National Socialist German Workers party 1920 to 1945... if you follow. Dawn Butler said the only reason Suella Braverman was promoted to Home Secretary was because she was black. Diane Abbott said Jews do not suffer racism. Neil Coyle was suspended for racist comments etc etc. But here's a thing, I think politicians on both side of the house should grow a pair, especially Labour MP's. They should stop being so bloody outraged particularly Starmer, he's always outraged over something, yet he seems to forget about gaffes made by the people sitting behind him. Problem with Starmer/Labour they don't think a head (well they don't think at all) but they play the political point scoring at any opportunity, they never give it a second thought with all their moralising that their behaviour might be called in to question in the future, Labour live for today, they are opportunists who will jump on the bandwagon if it can give them the slightest leg up the polling ladder. Indeed, although I was rather disappointed earlier today when at the despatch box Sunak didn't mention Labour donor Dale Vince who says Hamas are freedom fighters not terrorists. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 13, 2024 16:19:11 GMT
All of this is a smokescreen to hide the embarrassment of Angela ( two houses ) Rayner . And that's something else the Tories seem to be quiet about, much to Starmers relief. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 16:26:42 GMT
All of this is a smokescreen to hide the embarrassment of Angela ( two houses ) Rayner . Yes because there's been no news coverage of that. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 13, 2024 16:33:45 GMT
Problem with Starmer/Labour they don't think a head (well they don't think at all) but they play the political point scoring at any opportunity, they never give it a second thought with all their moralising that their behaviour might be called in to question in the future, Labour live for today, they are opportunists who will jump on the bandwagon if it can give them the slightest leg up the polling ladder. Indeed, although I was rather disappointed earlier today when at the despatch box Sunak didn't mention Labour donor Dale Vince who says Hamas are freedom fighters not terrorists. Sunak and the Tories are always letting Labour off the hook, unlike Labour who once they get a bee in their bonnet they wont give it a rest, they drove us to tears with their constant Boris Johnson Partygate, they never let up, it was actually quite disturbing behaviour. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 13, 2024 16:39:29 GMT
All of this is a smokescreen to hide the embarrassment of Angela ( two houses ) Rayner . Yes because there's been no news coverage of that. There was . Now it’s the revenge of the lefties by digging up years old comments . |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 16:54:49 GMT
Yes because there's been no news coverage of that. There was . Now it’s the revenge of the lefties by digging up years old comments . Perhaps that was revenge for the two weeks of Daily Mail headlines about currygate that turned out to be a big pile of nothing. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 13, 2024 16:58:45 GMT
There was . Now it’s the revenge of the lefties by digging up years old comments . Perhaps that was revenge for the two weeks of Daily Mail headlines about currygate that turned out to be a big pile of nothing. It should have. Starmer wasn’t following the guide . He was no better than Johnson . |
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