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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 11:43:07 GMT
And I condemn her comment 100% as racist and unacceptable instead of making excuses because it's someone on my side of the political fence being racist towards someone on the other side. That's what's called consistency. Nope. One of them made a generalised racist statement about white people and the other one said that one black woman was so awful that she made him WANT to hate black women but he doesn’t hate black women . You,are not being consistent, you are being obtuse. Nope, I'm being consistent in condemning racist speech, whereas others here only care about who said it rather than what was said.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 13, 2024 11:44:49 GMT
Nope. One of them made a generalised racist statement about white people and the other one said that one black woman was so awful that she made him WANT to hate black women but he doesn’t hate black women . You,are not being consistent, you are being obtuse. Nope, I'm being consistent in condemning racist speech, whereas others here only care about who said it rather than what was said. The fact that you refuse to accept the obvious difference and instead repeat the same thing underlines your obtuse position .
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 11:48:27 GMT
My thoughts exactly:
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 11:49:15 GMT
Nope, I'm being consistent in condemning racist speech, whereas others here only care about who said it rather than what was said. The fact that you refuse to accept the obvious difference and instead repeat the same thing underlines your obtuse position . No, I think it's you splitting hairs so that you can have it both ways.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 13, 2024 11:53:26 GMT
The fact that you refuse to accept the obvious difference and instead repeat the same thing underlines your obtuse position . No, I think it's you splitting hairs so that you can have it both ways. I think it’s you deliberately being obtuse to make a non point .
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Post by Bentley on Mar 13, 2024 11:57:10 GMT
If a male Muslim Labour donor said in a private meeting made the aside ‘ Johnson should be shot ‘ then I doubt much would happen to him . So are we changing the narrative to ‘ misogyny?
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 11:57:26 GMT
No, I think it's you splitting hairs so that you can have it both ways. I think it’s you deliberately being obtuse to make a non point . If an Asian, Muslim Labour donor had said about Penny Mordaunt what Hester said about Diane Abbott you and the others defending Hester would not be defending him, far from it you'd be having a field day condemning him, I'd bet my house on it.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 13, 2024 12:01:01 GMT
I think it’s you deliberately being obtuse to make a non point . If an Asian, Muslim Labour donor had said about Penny Mordaunt what Hester said about Diane Abbott you and the others defending Hester would not be defending him, far from it you'd be having a field day condemning him, I'd bet my house on it. Did Penny Mordaunt say “ Black people love playing 'divide & rule' We should not play their game”. Oh look , she didn’t .
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 12:09:40 GMT
If an Asian, Muslim Labour donor had said about Penny Mordaunt what Hester said about Diane Abbott you and the others defending Hester would not be defending him, far from it you'd be having a field day condemning him, I'd bet my house on it. Did Penny Mordaunt say “ Black people love playing 'divide & rule' We should not play their game”. Oh look , she didn’t . Oh so your using the two wrongs make a right defence? If I were to make a racist comment about a white person who has themselves made racist comments in the past, I could count on you to leap to my defence could I?
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 13, 2024 12:16:29 GMT
Oh well, that's alright then. 🙃🙄 Was what he said illegal? - if not, then what is the point of getting all riled up about something that a private citizen said at a private function half a decade ago? Interesting response. You seem to think that because something that is not illegal that it is therefore acceptable. On that basis, that the thread on the transgender prospective parliamentary candidate should be deleted as she is not illegal?
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Post by Bentley on Mar 13, 2024 12:17:12 GMT
Did Penny Mordaunt say “ Black people love playing 'divide & rule' We should not play their game”. Oh look , she didn’t . Oh so your using the two wrongs make a right defence? If I were to make a racist comment about a white person who has themselves made racist comments in the past, I could count on you to leap to my defence could I? No I’m not . You are making a straw man fallacy argument by comparing Mordaunt with Abbott .
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 12:26:44 GMT
Oh so your using the two wrongs make a right defence? If I were to make a racist comment about a white person who has themselves made racist comments in the past, I could count on you to leap to my defence could I? No I’m not . You are making a straw man fallacy argument by comparing Mordaunt with Abbott . You compared the two of them when you said: "Did Penny Mordaunt say “ Black people love playing 'divide & rule' We should not play their game”. Oh look , she didn’t ." I notice you didn't answer my question as well.
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 12:27:54 GMT
Was what he said illegal? - if not, then what is the point of getting all riled up about something that a private citizen said at a private function half a decade ago? Interesting response. You seem to think that because something that is not illegal that it is therefore acceptable. On that basis, that the thread on the transgender prospective parliamentary candidate should be deleted as she is not illegal? Indeed, it's not illegal for trans women to use women's toilets so what's the problem?
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Post by sandypine on Mar 13, 2024 12:43:17 GMT
Nope. One of them made a generalised racist statement about white people and the other one said that one black woman was so awful that she made him WANT to hate black women but he doesn’t hate black women . You,are not being consistent, you are being obtuse. Nope, I'm being consistent in condemning racist speech, whereas others here only care about who said it rather than what was said. It was not racist.
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 12:44:22 GMT
Nope, I'm being consistent in condemning racist speech, whereas others here only care about who said it rather than what was said. It was not racist. Matter of opinion, mine is that it obviously was.
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