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Post by Bentley on Mar 12, 2024 21:51:04 GMT
I’ll treat you to my previous post that explained things “Translation for the knicker twisted lefties . “ Dianna Abbot is so awful that she stains all black women with her awfulness. “ What it doesn’t say “ I hate Black women “. The words “ and I don’t hate blackwomen at all “ is a bit of a clue too. And I'll repeat what I said earlier, imagine if Sadiq Khan had said something like this about Penny Mordant. Everyone one of the posters currently defending Hester would be waxing apoplectic about how rabidly racist Khan is. Not if Penny Mordaunt had a history of making racist remarks as Abbott does but that aside Hester made some very ill judged remarks but not the ones you desperately want others to believe . I’m not defending Hester . Tbh I don’t know what he was thinking when he said this idiotic remark . He should have known how damaging that could be to him , his cause and his ambitions. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 12, 2024 22:12:52 GMT
Imagine the reaction on here if it had been Saddiq Khan saying this about say, Penny Mordant. Khan is an elected politician - this guy is someone nobody had heard of until 2 days ago. As strawmen go it needs work.. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 12, 2024 22:17:28 GMT
Imagine the reaction on here if it had been Saddiq Khan saying this about say, Penny Mordant. Khan is an elected politician - this guy is someone nobody had heard of until 2 days ago. As strawmen go it needs work.. Now had he said if Abbott had said “White people love playing 'divide & rule' We should not play their game”. Oh look ..she did . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 12, 2024 22:21:00 GMT
Yes of course, but this was in his private office and being the head of the firm you'd think those in his office he could trust like friends. If he had said it on Twitter than that would be the mark of stupidity for reasons you give, but if you can't talk normally in a private office then is it like bloody East Germany.
I'm really beginning to worry about this country. Someone a moment ago on social media said their friend was in the public gallery of a council meeting and hissed, whereupon the four of them were arrested late at night when in bed and detained for 24 hours in a police cell. Apparently one of the councillors was a Jew who believed the hiss was aimed at him and not the issue that was being decided, and because he is a Jew he got the police to arrest them. Councillors at your service.
No he shouldn’t expect to trust his subordinates ( or peers) like friends because they are not …anywhere. A few years ago I was in a meeting with the hired company managing director with a few colleagues to discuss production problems and how to solve those problems. Two of the other directors were brothers . One was very intelligent ( John who owned the company ) and the other was not ( Steve who basically was Johns gofer). Both had sons working in the company as managers . In the meeting I quipped that Steves son has the ambition of John but the brains of his father ( Steve ). After the meeting within a few hours other colleagues were laughing about my comment . My colleague at the meeting was running his mouth off about what I said in a supposedly’ secret ‘ meeting . The worst of it was Steve was very kind to my wife who had recently had cancer . Never trust a colleague, especially one you trust . I think knowing who to trust is the number one skill of a successful businessman. Yes I know there are some right shits. Mind you I'm wondering if he was bugged. It's also worth considering this happened in 2019. They may have a recording. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 12, 2024 22:41:23 GMT
No he shouldn’t expect to trust his subordinates ( or peers) like friends because they are not …anywhere. A few years ago I was in a meeting with the hired company managing director with a few colleagues to discuss production problems and how to solve those problems. Two of the other directors were brothers . One was very intelligent ( John who owned the company ) and the other was not ( Steve who basically was Johns gofer). Both had sons working in the company as managers . In the meeting I quipped that Steves son has the ambition of John but the brains of his father ( Steve ). After the meeting within a few hours other colleagues were laughing about my comment . My colleague at the meeting was running his mouth off about what I said in a supposedly’ secret ‘ meeting . The worst of it was Steve was very kind to my wife who had recently had cancer . Never trust a colleague, especially one you trust . I think knowing who to trust is the number one skill of a successful businessman. Yes I know there are some right shits. Mind you I'm wondering if he was bugged. It's also worth considering this happened in 2019. They may have a recording. You might be right . |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 6:45:09 GMT
Khan is an elected politician - this guy is someone nobody had heard of until 2 days ago. As strawmen go it needs work.. Now had he said if Abbott had said “White people love playing 'divide & rule' We should not play their game”. Oh look ..she did . And I condemn her comment 100% as racist and unacceptable instead of making excuses because it's someone on my side of the political fence being racist towards someone on the other side. That's what's called consistency. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 6:46:55 GMT
Imagine the reaction on here if it had been Saddiq Khan saying this about say, Penny Mordant. Khan is an elected politician - this guy is someone nobody had heard of until 2 days ago. As strawmen go it needs work.. Doesn't make what I said wrong, you guys would be rhetorically burning effigies of him and I suspect you know it. How does Hester's political status or lack thereof make his comments any more or less racist? |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 13, 2024 7:48:23 GMT
Khan is an elected politician - this guy is someone nobody had heard of until 2 days ago. As strawmen go it needs work.. Doesn't make what I said wrong, you guys would be rhetorically burning effigies of him and I suspect you know it. How does Hester's political status or lack thereof make his comments any more or less racist? Some guy that nobody has ever heard of (and I include you) says something that could be defined as racist several years ago - sorry, but unlike you, I'm struggling to get worked up about it. There is also something quite distasteful about members of a political party that has spent decades hurling appalling abuse at other politicians now clutching their pearls because someone has said something unpleasant about one of them. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 13, 2024 7:51:18 GMT
...It's also worth considering this happened in 2019. They may have a recording. Five years ago? They must be desperate to be dragging it up now. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 8:06:47 GMT
Doesn't make what I said wrong, you guys would be rhetorically burning effigies of him and I suspect you know it. How does Hester's political status or lack thereof make his comments any more or less racist? Some guy that nobody has ever heard of (and I include you) says something that could be defined as racist several years ago - sorry, but unlike you, I'm struggling to get worked up about it. There is also something quite distasteful about members of a political party that has spent decades hurling appalling abuse at other politicians now clutching their pearls because someone has said something unpleasant about one of them. But how does any of that make his comments any more or less racist? Elected politicians have accepted a £10 million donation from Hester. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 13, 2024 8:20:46 GMT
Some guy that nobody has ever heard of (and I include you) says something that could be defined as racist several years ago - sorry, but unlike you, I'm struggling to get worked up about it. There is also something quite distasteful about members of a political party that has spent decades hurling appalling abuse at other politicians now clutching their pearls because someone has said something unpleasant about one of them. But how does any of that make his comments any more or less racist? Elected politicians have accepted a £10 million donation from Hester. People say racist things everyday - the reason that we dont get worked up about it is that there are far more important things to worry about. If he hadn't said anything racist 5 years ago would your life be better today? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 13, 2024 9:06:05 GMT
We all know Abbott will love playing her 'victim' role, she's got it off to a fine art now, this will call for her to be made Baroness Abbott.
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 9:08:52 GMT
But how does any of that make his comments any more or less racist? Elected politicians have accepted a £10 million donation from Hester. People say racist things everyday - the reason that we dont get worked up about it is that there are far more important things to worry about. If he hadn't said anything racist 5 years ago would your life be better today? You care enough to come on here to dismiss and downplay it. |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 13, 2024 9:19:43 GMT
No he has not been charged and therefore there is no case to answer. If he had been charged and found not guilty the same would apply, he has only 'gotten away' with something if it is believed it is a crime and in the race laws that has to be tested in court. Not quite again, she would be saying that if Griffin was an example of all white males then racism would be easy but in the scenario the decision by the speaker is that that is wrong so that decision to be racist is rejected. It would be like saying that one would like to not reject country music out of hand but Jim Reeves makes that difficult. That is not saying one does not like or reject country music but Jim Reeves as an example of country music makes it difficult not to do that but that does not mean by any stretch that country music is rejected out of hand. Of course the left are trying to control speech at every turn and this is just another example in a long list of racist/misogynist/bigoted examples that are not those at all that the left have tried to silence. Your exercise of your freedom of speech is to try to stop someone else saying something you think is wrong and even worse to punish him for it. So I think your moral high ground is decidedly wobbly. Slurring all members of an ethnic group by the actions of one member of that group is textbook racism. How on earth am I trying to stop someone else saying anything? Back this up with a quote of mine, not me saying A and you saying I really meant B but a verbatim quote or retract this slur please. Disagreement is not censorship. However he did not slur all members of an ethnic group in fact he specifically said that was not what he was going to do or of women as he specifically said that would be wrong. So doing the right thing now becomes racist. This is incredible stuff. Of course disagreement is censorship especially if it is tied to either law or the call for some form of action so that what was said in this instance will not be said by anyone else again. You can call it not stopping people from saying things but that is the upshot |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 13, 2024 9:26:19 GMT
Slurring all members of an ethnic group by the actions of one member of that group is textbook racism. How on earth am I trying to stop someone else saying anything? Back this up with a quote of mine, not me saying A and you saying I really meant B but a verbatim quote or retract this slur please. Disagreement is not censorship. However he did not slur all members of an ethnic group in fact he specifically said that was not what he was going to do or of women as he specifically said that would be wrong. So doing the right thing now becomes racist. This is incredible stuff. Of course disagreement is censorship especially if it is tied to either law or the call for some form of action so that what was said in this instance will not be said by anyone else again. You can call it not stopping people from saying things but that is the upshot If disagreement is censorship you're censoring me right now. I have not invoked any laws or called for any action form of action to stop anyone from saying anything. I'll ask you again to either provide evidence that I did or retract your slur against me. If you fail to do either I will take it as an indication on your part that you have conceded the point but don't have the guts to admit it. |
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