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Post by Bentley on Mar 12, 2024 11:20:45 GMT
Well that’s one solution . If it becomes socially acceptable then why not ? Perhaps there could be a seperate section for urinals . In many places they don't even have that - you just have to get used to women walking past while you're having a wee.
Still, when in Rome eh?
I don’t think the UK is ready for that foreigny stuff just yet but it might get the ‘ trans women ‘ out of the queue for the ‘ traps’. 😁 |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 12, 2024 11:21:17 GMT
Well that’s one solution . If it becomes socially acceptable then why not ? Perhaps there could be a seperate section for urinals . Many public facilities cater for mothers who want to feed or change their infants in privacy... Well that needs to go. I mean, what about the "Chestfeeders"?
It's just opening up the same old debate again.
Let's just have "Person" facilities and have done with it.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 12, 2024 11:24:31 GMT
Toilets are only a small part of the problem. The problem is that a lie should not be supported by law in principle …a law that even makes it illegal to point out the lie... Then let's do away with gender rights full stop - and just have "Person" rights. It avoids the whole, sorry business. Of course, womens rights would have to go under the bus, but then so would all other special rights for every other "Interest group". Yeah, bin the lot. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 12, 2024 11:25:38 GMT
Yeah, when you are losing an argument you could always turn to violence... 🙄 Who is loosing the arguement Andy? So can we all deduce by your lack of reply on your wife or daughter having to share facilities with a pervert is OK by you? It was you who was advocating violence. Why do you think transgender folk are perverts and what evidence do you have for this? Women's toilets are all cubicled, so it's unclear what your prejudice is from? |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 12, 2024 11:28:52 GMT
Toilets are only a small part of the problem. The problem is that a lie should not be supported by law in principle …a law that even makes it illegal to point out the lie... Then let's do away with gender rights full stop - and just have "Person" rights. It avoids the whole, sorry business. Of course, womens rights would have to go under the bus, but then so would all other special rights for every other "Interest group". Yeah, bin the lot. It has been said that the feminist view that women are equal to men in every way and the difference is only a social construct used by the patriarchy to oppress women has resulted in the ‘ trans’ movement . So when men pretend to be women and cream the women in their chosen sport , those sports women have the bra less hairy legged brigade to thank. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 12, 2024 11:32:19 GMT
Who is loosing the arguement Andy? So can we all deduce by your lack of reply on your wife or daughter having to share facilities with a pervert is OK by you? Why do you think transgender folk are perverts and what evidence do you have for this? Women's toilets are all cubicled, so it's unclear what your prejudice is from? Where exactly have I advocated violence Andy...A little free advice when you have dug yourself into a hole stop digging FFS
Oh so you can put your hand on your heart and state that those men who self identify as a women are only using the facilties for when nature calls and not for some other warped interest?
Changing rooms in stores only have a couple of cubicles and when it gets busy women would rather try a dress on in the changing rooms rather than wait for a cubicle..
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 12, 2024 11:32:45 GMT
Then let's do away with gender rights full stop - and just have "Person" rights. It avoids the whole, sorry business. Of course, womens rights would have to go under the bus, but then so would all other special rights for every other "Interest group". Yeah, bin the lot. It has been said that the feminist view that women are equal to men in every way and the difference is only a social construct used by the patriarchy to oppress women has resulted in the ‘ trans’ movement . So when men pretend to be women and cream the women in their chosen sport , those sports women have the bra less hairy legged brigade to thank. Absolutely. The trans movement is kicking feminism into the long grass.
That's what I love about wokery - when it falls apart in the face of the total impossibility of trying to please everyone.
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Post by see2 on Mar 12, 2024 12:05:26 GMT
Many public facilities cater for mothers who want to feed or change their infants in privacy... Well that needs to go. I mean, what about the "Chestfeeders"?
It's just opening up the same old debate again.
Let's just have "Person" facilities and have done with it.
Well we do have some 'person' toilets in some places these days. |
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 12, 2024 12:36:10 GMT
It doesn't matter, the same kinds of people on these boards still found their excuses to push back against progress. The excuses back then were that "its not natural", "they are perverts", "our children are not safe" and that "its all part of the moral decline of society". A different minority, different excuses, but the same kind of people Trans people are no more a threat to society than homosexual men and women are, or ever were. "Tories should fight next election on 'culture wars and trans debate', says Lee Anderson" www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tories-should-fight-next-election-29211636The whole trans row strikes me as manufactured. It's been manufactured by those who want to throw their own beliefs upon the rest of society. Women's rights and safe spaces have now been encroached upon by delusional men. There are plenty of JK Rowling's in the world who feel the same. Why are they ignored? |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 12, 2024 12:58:14 GMT
It's been manufactured by those who want to throw their own beliefs upon the rest of society. Women's rights and safe spaces have now been encroached upon by delusional men. There are plenty of JK Rowling's in the world who feel the same. Why are they ignored? Trans people didn't just spring into existence in the last few years, as I understand it there have been references to transgender people going back to ancient civilizations. I'm assuming that trans women have been using women's toilets for decades, I don't remember there being arguments about it when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s, so why is it suddenly a problem now? Could it be because culture war warriors like Lee Anderson see it as a wedge issue they hope to win a few votes with? |
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 12, 2024 13:00:33 GMT
You CAN have "Safe Spaces" for women which exclude TS people on the grounds of safety
But its not a reason for discriminating agains or ridiculing TS people, its just another lame excuse.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 12, 2024 13:05:36 GMT
You CAN have "Safe Spaces" for women which exclude TS people on the grounds of safety But it’s not a reason for discriminating agains or ridiculing TS people, it’s just another lame excuse. It’s not discriminating against trans to point out their delusion , neither is it ridiculing them by pointing out how some men use it to abuse the system. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 12, 2024 13:27:53 GMT
You CAN have "Safe Spaces" for women which exclude TS people on the grounds of safety But its not a reason for discriminating agains or ridiculing TS people, its just another lame excuse. They set themselves up as a target to be ridiculed fiddles. What sane person would want this idiot representing them in the HOC?....Even lefty woke brighton turned the twat down... link
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 12, 2024 14:24:43 GMT
Is he or she, whichever, going to win in that constituency? Usually very young candidates are given constituencies where the party has no chance whatsoever. Wasn’t it David Cameron’s constituency Given the degree to which the party has slipped from those days, maybe ‘it’ will indeed follow where Mhairi Black led |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 12, 2024 14:30:51 GMT
It's been manufactured by those who want to throw their own beliefs upon the rest of society. Women's rights and safe spaces have now been encroached upon by delusional men. There are plenty of JK Rowling's in the world who feel the same. Why are they ignored? Trans people didn't just spring into existence in the last few years, as I understand it there have been references to transgender people going back to ancient civilizations. I'm assuming that trans women have been using women's toilets for decades, I don't remember there being arguments about it when I was growing up in the 80s and 90 i do, but then while at British Telecom in 1996 the ugliest ‘woman’ i’ve ever worked with became the first person on BT’s books to want to be regarded as a woman, and all the real female staff were called to return a questionnaire stating their consent to allow ‘it’ to use tbe women’s bogs. As i pointed out elsewhere on here, i told it to its face i didn’t give a damn where it took a piss all i wanted to know was could it fix the mess with mysql on debian. |
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