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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2024 16:37:04 GMT
Trans men are men but trans women aren't women? Ok the term trans men is a misnomer . It suggests that women can become men if they want to . Same as the term Trans women . I think there is a bit of confusion where the term trans men is mistaken to be a term for biological men wanting to become women when it’s really biological women wanting to become men . Replacing the word "trans" with "fake" or "pretend" fixes the confusion. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2024 16:43:16 GMT
So what's to stop a man walking into a women's bathroom and claiming to be a trans man? Perhaps all toilets should be unisex, like they mostly are in France.
The French seem to get on well enough with it.
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 12, 2024 17:23:46 GMT
The entire issue is a Non-Issue, its all immaterial and makes no difference to anything.
A very tiny proportion of men feel physically, emotionally and mentally that they are women, the term often used it that the feel that "they are women trapped in a mans body".
Its a faultline in nature
I understand that these things happen, nature produces disabled people, blind people, gay people, and nature produces people with mental health issues, some people are born with no thumbs and deformaties.
You dont have to accept Trans men as women, instead accept them as a man who wants to be a woman, or if you cannot accept what nature has produced, then dont ridicule people who cannot help the way they are.
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Post by vlk on Mar 12, 2024 17:42:56 GMT
These days liberal is a similar word like fascist in the sense that both have lost a lot of their original meaning. Both are also loosely thrown around as slurs towards people who you disagree with.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 12, 2024 18:04:08 GMT
The entire issue is a Non-Issue, its all immaterial and makes no difference to anything. A very tiny proportion of men feel physically, emotionally and mentally that they are women, the term often used it that the feel that "they are women trapped in a mans body". Its a faultline in nature I understand that these things happen, nature produces disabled people, blind people, gay people, and nature produces people with mental health issues, some people are born with no thumbs and deformaties. You dont have to accept Trans men as women, instead accept them as a man who wants to be a woman, or if you cannot accept what nature has produced, then dont ridicule people who cannot help the way they are. If it’s a non issue , why are the left fighting so hard for it , why is the trans lobby powerful enough to shout down JK Rowling snd why is denying it edging towards a ‘ hate crime ‘. Yes you do have to accept trans women as men and you should not have to . Trans women are men with a delusion . Society should accommodate people with delusions but not to the point of joining in on the delusion . |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 12, 2024 18:25:04 GMT
The entire issue is a Non-Issue, its all immaterial and makes no difference to anything. If it were a non-issue the trans supporters would not be trying so hard to subject those who do not buy into the idea to legal action to force them to accept the idea. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 12, 2024 18:46:24 GMT
Perhaps all toilets should be unisex, like they mostly are in France.
The French seem to get on well enough with it.
Yes, but the French eat snails and frogs. Yes, they're very down to Earth: If you can eat it, they eat it.
If you can piss in the same pot, they piss in the same pot.
They don't have any truck with all this attention seeking "I'm special" malarkey.
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 12, 2024 18:47:12 GMT
The entire issue is a Non-Issue, its all immaterial and makes no difference to anything. A very tiny proportion of men feel physically, emotionally and mentally that they are women, the term often used it that the feel that "they are women trapped in a mans body". Its a faultline in nature I understand that these things happen, nature produces disabled people, blind people, gay people, and nature produces people with mental health issues, some people are born with no thumbs and deformaties. You dont have to accept Trans men as women, instead accept them as a man who wants to be a woman, or if you cannot accept what nature has produced, then dont ridicule people who cannot help the way they are. If it’s a non issue , why are the left fighting so hard for it , why is the trans lobby powerful enough to shout down JK Rowling snd why is denying it edging towards a ‘ hate crime ‘. Yes you do have to accept trans women as men and you should not have to . Trans women are men with a delusion . Society should accommodate people with delusions but not to the point of joining in on the delusion . You have turned this topic upside down, it is not "the left" who are fighting hard on it, it's the other way around, the "populist right" who are continually trying to make it an issue, for me personally I couldnt give a toss about Trans men or Trans women, its just not a political issue to me. The NHS is a political issue, as is rising homelesness, poverty, the economy, defence, but for me trans people are a fact of life, I accept them for who they are. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 12, 2024 19:00:01 GMT
If it’s a non issue , why are the left fighting so hard for it , why is the trans lobby powerful enough to shout down JK Rowling snd why is denying it edging towards a ‘ hate crime ‘. Yes you do have to accept trans women as men and you should not have to . Trans women are men with a delusion . Society should accommodate people with delusions but not to the point of joining in on the delusion . You have turned this topic upside down, it is not "the left" who are fighting hard on it, it's the other way around, the "populist right" who are continually trying to make it an issue, for me personally I couldnt give a toss about Trans men or Trans women, its just not a political issue to me. The NHS is a political issue, as is rising homelesness, poverty, the economy, defence, but for me trans people are a fact of life, I accept them for who they are. But it's the left that want to make "Misgendering" ie calling someone by their actual gender, a crime.
In the normal run of things, I also don't give a toss about the so-called trans issue but I do object to being potentially criminalised for stating a fact.
Sir unKleir can fuck right off with that one. The whiney little cow.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 12, 2024 19:12:05 GMT
If it’s a non issue , why are the left fighting so hard for it , why is the trans lobby powerful enough to shout down JK Rowling snd why is denying it edging towards a ‘ hate crime ‘. Yes you do have to accept trans women as men and you should not have to . Trans women are men with a delusion . Society should accommodate people with delusions but not to the point of joining in on the delusion . You have turned this topic upside down, it is not "the left" who are fighting hard on it, it's the other way around, the "populist right" who are continually trying to make it an issue, for me personally I couldnt give a toss about Trans men or Trans women, its just not a political issue to me. The NHS is a political issue, as is rising homelesness, poverty, the economy, defence, but for me trans people are a fact of life, I accept them for who they are. Yes all those trans right activists are from far right. All of the people pushing for denying trans women are real women to be considered a hate crime are all right wingers . All of the people who claim that claiming to be women equals being a woman are goose stepping far right extremists. Trans delusions are a fact of life . Indulging delusions should not be. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 12, 2024 20:36:25 GMT
These days liberal is a similar word like fascist in the sense that both have lost a lot of their original meaning. Both are also loosely thrown around as slurs towards people who you disagree with. The problem is that Fascism has proved to be a very dangerous state of mind, not quite the same as being a Liberal. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 12, 2024 20:45:32 GMT
You have turned this topic upside down, it is not "the left" who are fighting hard on it, it's the other way around, the "populist right" who are continually trying to make it an issue, for me personally I couldnt give a toss about Trans men or Trans women, its just not a political issue to me. The NHS is a political issue, as is rising homelesness, poverty, the economy, defence, but for me trans people are a fact of life, I accept them for who they are. Yes all those trans right activists are from far right. All of the people pushing for denying trans women are real women to be considered a hate crime are all right wingers . All of the people who claim that claiming to be women equals being a woman are goose stepping far right extremists. Trans delusions are a fact of life . Indulging delusions should not be. Taking political thoughts to the extremes in this area is just nonsense. How much research have you done or have you acknowledged done, in this area of the human condition? Or is is it the case that you have just jumped to one conclusion without any conclusive evidence that you can offer? |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 12, 2024 20:52:15 GMT
These days liberal is a similar word like fascist in the sense that both have lost a lot of their original meaning. Both are also loosely thrown around as slurs towards people who you disagree with. The problem is that Fascism has proved to be a very dangerous state of mind, not quite the same as being a Liberal. Fascism yes but calling everything one dislikes fascist does not mean that it is Fascism. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 12, 2024 21:25:31 GMT
Yes all those trans right activists are from far right. All of the people pushing for denying trans women are real women to be considered a hate crime are all right wingers . All of the people who claim that claiming to be women equals being a woman are goose stepping far right extremists. Trans delusions are a fact of life . Indulging delusions should not be. Taking political thoughts to the extremes in this area is just nonsense. How much research have you done or have you acknowledged done, in this area of the human condition? Or is is it the case that you have just jumped to one conclusion without any conclusive evidence that you can offer? I dint need to be a pretend psychologist to know that men who think they are women are deluded . I don’t need to study politics to know when a leftie is kidding me that the trans argument is a right wing issue . |
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 12, 2024 21:47:29 GMT
I dint need to be a pretend psychologist to know that men who think they are women are deluded . No, but it would give your opinion more credence. |
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