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Post by happyhornet on Mar 4, 2024 12:48:33 GMT
Double the amount of police. If you are convicted of rape you have your balls cut off. If you lie about being raped you hang. Problem solved. Can you imagine all these people calling for tougher action on violence against women agreeing to this though... not a chance lol. So the sentence for lying about rape is harsher than the sentence for rape? How would you prove someone lied about being raped? |
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Post by dodgydave on Mar 4, 2024 13:03:03 GMT
Double the amount of police. If you are convicted of rape you have your balls cut off. If you lie about being raped you hang. Problem solved. Can you imagine all these people calling for tougher action on violence against women agreeing to this though... not a chance lol. So the sentence for lying about rape is harsher than the sentence for rape? How would you prove someone lied about being raped? The same way they prove it now... I meant if the lie leads to a conviction, and then further evidence leads to the conviction being overturned... then you swing. They should do the same with murder. If a bent copper makes up / hides / destroys evidence and the conviction is overturned they should swing too. In case you haven't noticed we are living way beyond our means. Locking up murderers for 20-40 years at £60k a year is one of the reasons why... Lob off the balls of rapists instead of locking them up and you could save money too. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 4, 2024 13:40:52 GMT
So the sentence for lying about rape is harsher than the sentence for rape? How would you prove someone lied about being raped? The same way they prove it now... I meant if the lie leads to a conviction, and then further evidence leads to the conviction being overturned... then you swing. They should do the same with murder. If a bent copper makes up / hides / destroys evidence and the conviction is overturned they should swing too. In case you haven't noticed we are living way beyond our means. Locking up murderers for 20-40 years at £60k a year is one of the reasons why... Lob off the balls of rapists instead of locking them up and you could save money too. So you are advocating a harsher sentence for lying about rape than rape itself? Won't this also discourage women further from pursuing prosecution if a legal cock up could see them being executed? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 4, 2024 13:44:57 GMT
...Won't this also discourage women further from pursuing prosecution if a legal cock up could see them being executed? That's the excuse used now for not prosecuting women who falsely cry rape - that it will discourage others from coming forward. Well I don't accept that, it would certainly stop women from lying about rape. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 4, 2024 14:16:44 GMT
...Won't this also discourage women further from pursuing prosecution if a legal cock up could see them being executed? That's the excuse used now for not prosecuting women who falsely cry rape - that it will discourage others from coming forward. Well I don't accept that, it would certainly stop women from lying about rape. |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 4, 2024 14:17:04 GMT
...Won't this also discourage women further from pursuing prosecution if a legal cock up could see them being executed? That's the excuse used now for not prosecuting women who falsely cry rape - that it will discourage others from coming forward. Well I don't accept that, it would certainly stop women from lying about rape. Quite a number of men have gone to prison after false allegations of Rape over the years which does nothing to help those who have genuinely been raped This woman lied and lied about being raped and trafficked A woman who falsely claimed she had been raped and trafficked by an Asian grooming gang has been found guilty of perverting the course of justice. Eleanor Williams, 22, of Barrow-in-Furness, was found guilty of eight counts at Preston Crown Court. She posted photos on social media in May 2020 of injuries she said were from being beaten but the jury heard she inflicted the wounds on herself. One man told the court the false accusations had "ruined" his life. How a woman's gang rape lies sparked outrage Her Facebook post was shared more than 100,000 times and sparked demonstrations in her home town, however, the court heard this was a "finale" to her story and she had injured herself with a claw hammer. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 4, 2024 16:51:10 GMT
That's the excuse used now for not prosecuting women who falsely cry rape - that it will discourage others from coming forward. Well I don't accept that, it would certainly stop women from lying about rape. With respect, Emma Katz is talking shite. In the Met rape investigators are called “SOIT” (Sexual Offences Investigation Trained) officers. The majority of SOIT officers are women and most, based on their experience, end up extremely cynical about rape allegations. A personal friend of mine, now retired, was a SOIT officer for over 10 years and she doesn't believe that she dealt with a single genuine case in all of that time. In the end she moved on to other roles as she became sick of having to treat obvious liars and nutcases as if they were genuine victims of crime. She believes that many genuine victims never come forward but lots of vengeful exes, attention seekers and fantasists do. Of course, no one in an official position will ever admit the elephant in the room but her experience is far from unusual – I know several other former SOIT officers whose views are very similar. And that's the real reason that the clear up rate for rape is so low: Because so many rape allegations are false in the first place.
That's the reality.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 4, 2024 17:13:20 GMT
I suppose if you only define cases of women getting prosecuted for false rape allegations then you could claim they are the only cases of false rape allegations but if you do then you must define cases of rape by the number of men convicted of rape. .
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 4, 2024 17:19:07 GMT
I suppose if you only define cases of women getting prosecuted for false rape allegations then you could claim they are the only cases of false rape allegations but if you do then you must define cases of rape by the number of men convicted of rape. . A drop in the ocean, statistically...?  |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 4, 2024 17:39:27 GMT
[br Has a said to Pacifico that has always been the case but it Beggers belive it's at its lowest level ever during this Government reign .so the problem. Dose lie with the Govemoment .partly because a judge has thrown a case out of Court because the CPS hasnt presented convincing evidence also has well has poor convictions rates .there was very poor prosecutions think it'd increased a bit know. But I think it could lie with the police not taking the woman's claim of Rape serious. If the case got to court then of course it has been taken seriously. But not evident evidenice |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 4, 2024 17:52:38 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 4, 2024 18:03:56 GMT
If the case got to court then of course it has been taken seriously. But not evident evidenice The CPS determine whether there is enough evidence, not the Police. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 4, 2024 18:06:29 GMT
The thing with that case is that one of the perps was given a suspended sentence for sexual assault - compare that with the 'far-right' guy who got 2 years inside for putting up some silly stickers.. |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 4, 2024 18:26:40 GMT
But not evident evidenice The CPS determine whether there is enough evidence, not the Police. That's what I'm talking about the CPS . That's who I'm referring to when a judge throws a case out of Court .and of course the police handel first . If they don't handel the case properly There no case . Just look at the Muslims Grooming cases. The inquiry into that slammed the police for not taking the Victims seriously. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 4, 2024 18:33:04 GMT
The CPS determine whether there is enough evidence, not the Police. That's what I'm talking about the CPS . That's who I'm referring to when a judge throws a case out of Court .and of course the police handel first . If they don't handel the case properly There no case . Just look at the Muslims Grooming cases. The inquiry into that slammed the police for not taking the
Victims seriously. That is because it was not taken to Court - it was just ignored by the Police, Local Council and local Labour politicians. |
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