A little something to ponder on...

its not about fitting my narrative. you are the one who has the problem with it , so its up to you to do something about it. Like you , im merely voicing my opinions , and telling you why I disagree with you.

Scotland doesn't even control immigration , so the fucking irony of an Englishman bleating to a jock about something that is under the control of your own parliament is obviously going way over your head.

You blamed the EU for mass uncontrolled immigration for years ,now you are out , you are still moaning  about a problem that is all self inflicted by your own parliament. , no one else. Both labour and conservative clearly support mass uncontrolled immigration. Your country keeps voting both these parties into power , then you complain when they carry on doing the same thing time and again .

I think its a human condition to moan ,complain or whatever when we see things that we had no longer accessible . Affordable housing , a GP and a dentist when you want one , a place for your kids at the local school and few quid in your pocket to spend on crap you dont need . A seat on the bus or a clear road to drive on without potholes

Have all that and I don't think anyone ,well all but the few, would give a toss about immigration . Which means its not the migrant thats the problem so who is it ?

Fully agree. Thats the problem though for oldies like sandy. His world is gone , the young dont share or hold his British nationalist values , and I too have a lot of faith in the younger generations coming through. 

 

I get it to an extent, the world I grew up in is gone forever too, to my kids it would seem like an alien planet.

But I don't feel remotely bitter or angry about it, it's plain unrealistic to expect time to stand still.

And like they say, it's fun to visit the past but it's no place to live.

Britain has been collapsing for the last century. This isnt a new event , it's a process that arguably started with the loss of ireland , and loss of empire . We are approaching the end game. Countries and empires come and go , as we have seen throughout history. 

Sandys despair is a by product of that slow motion car crash and collapse of the world he once knew. What I and happy hornet have said though is true , all generations moan about how hard they had it , and despair about the younger generations who largely dont share their values.

For sandy to sit and moan about how he `coped` with a mortgage though , when many younger kids through no fault of their own cannot even get a foot on the housing ladder shows how out of touch he actually is.

I'm talking about our society, not Britain. Consider me uninterested in Britain

exactly . Why is people like sandy so remarkably bitter about their world coming to an end , while the same process is happening for you and I but we aren't anything like as bitter.?

I grew up in a council tenement in govan in Glasgow. The op of this thread and the article contained within is fucking alien to me. The English world of the fifties , enid Blyton cricket on the village lawn and warm beer and all that nostalgic bollocks. If I came on here , enthusing about some golden age of scotland, I would get laughed off the forum.

 There is something mentally wrong with many of the English. Im not sure what it is , I keep trying to put my finger on it , but is it the loss of empire and decline they can't handle? I say English , what I really mean is the British nationalists , because sandy of course is Scottish as much as he hates to think of himself so.

 I come on these forums , and read drivel like the op , and I have to say sometimes it shocks me reading such nonsense. The world moves on , time never stands still , and as I said earlier in one of the threads , was that wee welsh guy gildas sitting moaning about the idyllic British golden era in the fifth century before all those German immigrants sailed over the north sea and took his lands and Called it England? 

 It's fucking fantasy delusion .