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Post by happyhornet on Mar 6, 2024 13:25:15 GMT
"Proportion of Muslims in prison as a proportion to the their numbers in the whole population." Less than 1%. "Muslims responsible for terrorist activity proportional to their numbers in the whole population." Less than 1% of 1%. "Number of Muslims on the terrorist watchlist proportional to their numbers in the whole population" Around 1% "The number of Muslims economically inactive as a proportion of their numbers in the whole population." 41.9% I did not make myself really clear in that post but now I will clarify. In the prison population Muslims make up 15% of that population yet in the general population they are only 5%. So they aresignificantly over represented in crime. There are over 30,000 Muslims on the terrorist watchlist. Which is supposedly over 40,000 strong so they make up over 70% of that watchlist yet are only 5% of the population so significantly over represented there as well. The proportion of Muslims economically inactive is about 40% but in the overall population is about 22%. As regards Muslims women of working age the number is 68% when in the rest of the population it is just over 30%. As regards societal problems Muslims in aggregate contribute more to those problems than any other group by a significant amount. Ok, but that doesn't challenge the % of Muslim population figures, agreed? |
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Post by Orac on Mar 6, 2024 13:34:21 GMT
My argument wasn't that they all thought anything, it was that their society employed a methodology. As far as our interests are concerned, there is no difference between 100% and 99% , or indeed 30%. The real problem is you view our interests as having zero value. Your attempts to keep ramming at an irrelevant 'point' that isn't a point are clearly intellectually dishonest. How does "their society" employ their methodology in the UK? Terrorism / intimidation and voting - additionally, hijacking institutions and re-purposing (very much WIP) |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 6, 2024 14:01:43 GMT
How does "their society" employ their methodology in the UK? Terrorism / intimidation and voting - additionally, hijacking institutions and re-purposing (very much WIP) I notice you cut off the rest of my post, why is that? What % of Muslims in the UK are involved in these things? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 6, 2024 14:12:29 GMT
I can see that HH won't be satisfied until answers are presented in spreadsheet form.
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Post by sandypine on Mar 6, 2024 18:26:51 GMT
I did not make myself really clear in that post but now I will clarify. In the prison population Muslims make up 15% of that population yet in the general population they are only 5%. So they aresignificantly over represented in crime. There are over 30,000 Muslims on the terrorist watchlist. Which is supposedly over 40,000 strong so they make up over 70% of that watchlist yet are only 5% of the population so significantly over represented there as well. The proportion of Muslims economically inactive is about 40% but in the overall population is about 22%. As regards Muslims women of working age the number is 68% when in the rest of the population it is just over 30%. As regards societal problems Muslims in aggregate contribute more to those problems than any other group by a significant amount. Ok, but that doesn't challenge the % of Muslim population figures, agreed? Well it wouldn't as that was not the intended direction of my post. My clarification above indicates that there is an aggregate problem coming from the Muslim community significantly greater than any other group. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 6, 2024 19:16:02 GMT
This is where we came in three pages ago. Part of the problem is semantic and part of it historical. Islam sees itself as a nation with a set of laws, which is in opposition to, or competition with, other nations. It's objective (instruction) is to take control and enforce its rule. Think about this as a simple mimetic survival strategy. Muslims and Christians do not mean the same thing when they use the word 'religion' You honestly believe that everyone who identifies as Muslim is dedicated to this? You have to remember they don't know any Muslims. |
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Post by patman post on Mar 6, 2024 19:17:35 GMT
I’m not ashamed to be British. But I can be ashamed of some British and the way they sully the good name of the country by their actions…
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Post by zanygame on Mar 6, 2024 19:19:22 GMT
Did someone, sometime wake up one morning and say to themselves: "You know, what this country really needs is four or five million Muslims. I'll raise the matter at the Cabinet meeting later today." No they said this country needs four or five million immigrants and Muslims applied. When you go to the cabinet meeting suggest we each need to pay more tax rather than bring in more people to pay more tax. Let me know how it goes down. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 6, 2024 19:21:18 GMT
Did someone, sometime wake up one morning and say to themselves: "You know, what this country really needs is four or five million Muslims. I'll raise the matter at the Cabinet meeting later today." Take a look at the Muslim world and ask yourself why would a person in the UK strongly want this, what possible motive could they have? Ask yourself why a Muslim in the UK would want this. |
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Post by sheepy on Mar 6, 2024 19:25:42 GMT
Take a look at the Muslim world and ask yourself why would a person in the UK strongly want this, what possible motive could they have? Ask yourself why a Muslim in the UK would want this. How would you know? new Labour have been roundly rejected by Muslims, if you don't mind, I will listen to what George Galloway says he actually does represent them. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 6, 2024 19:34:11 GMT
Ask yourself why a Muslim in the UK would want this. How would you know? new Labour have been roundly rejected by Muslims, if you don't mind, I will listen to what George Galloway says he actually does represent them. Mean while back in the real world. George Galloway won against the Tories, there was no Labour candidate. |
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Post by sheepy on Mar 6, 2024 19:37:15 GMT
How would you know? new Labour have been roundly rejected by Muslims, if you don't mind, I will listen to what George Galloway says he actually does represent them. Mean while back in the real world. George Galloway won against the Tories, there was no Labour candidate. Yes, there was, stop pretending Labour didn't have one. They were trashed and we all know it. |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 6, 2024 20:01:44 GMT
I’m not ashamed to be British. But I can be ashamed of some British and the way they sully the good name of the country by their actions… Specifically who are you referring to? |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 6, 2024 20:18:15 GMT
Take a look at the Muslim world and ask yourself why would a person in the UK strongly want this, what possible motive could they have? Ask yourself why a Muslim in the UK would want this. A Muslim may not but to a certain extent he may be bound by his religion to a type of joint action whether he agrees with the joint action or not. There were a few Muslims who supported Salman Rushdie's right to write his book but they were subject to intimidation and threats as well and regarded as false Muslims which put them in danger. Remember a very large majority of German were not Nazis and many did not agree with what the Nazis did but in the grand scheme of things the peaceful Germans were irrelevant because there were enough of the non peaceful ones to initiate all the actions the non peaceful ones wanted and Islam produces non peaceful ones in prodigious quantities. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 6, 2024 20:52:20 GMT
Mean while back in the real world. George Galloway won against the Tories, there was no Labour candidate. Yes, there was, stop pretending Labour didn't have one. They were trashed and we all know it. care to name them. |
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