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Post by zanygame on Feb 29, 2024 8:24:49 GMT
I'm no longer sure. I used to love the fact that in my younger days (Not slavery or empire, I'm not that old) British were known for playing fair and helping others.
That's all gone now, money is our god and helping others is measured on political or economic return, not doing what's right.
Further we are fast becoming like those races we once despised who blamed minority groups for the ills facing their country instead of stepping up and helping.
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Post by sheepy on Feb 29, 2024 8:30:24 GMT
I'm no longer sure. I used to love the fact that in my younger days (Not slavery or empire, I'm not that old) British were known for playing fair and helping others. That's all gone now, money is our god and helping others is measured on political or economic return, not doing what's right. Further we are fast becoming like those races we once despised who blamed minority groups for the ills facing their country instead of stepping up and helping. It is still what you make off it, trying to avoid the pitfalls of getting dragged into everyone else's woes and avoiding the globalists is not so easy.As they constantly come up with new ways to insist you become a global robot, or they will just invent one anyway.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 29, 2024 8:32:09 GMT
I'm no longer sure. I used to love the fact that in my younger days (Not slavery or empire, I'm not that old) British were known for playing fair and helping others. That's all gone now, money is our god and helping others is measured on political or economic return, not doing what's right. Further we are fast becoming like those races we once despised who blamed minority groups for the ills facing their country instead of stepping up and helping. No....I am both embarrassed and ashamed to be British. Where has the British backbone gone?
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Post by wapentake on Feb 29, 2024 8:46:37 GMT
I'm no longer sure. I used to love the fact that in my younger days (Not slavery or empire, I'm not that old) British were known for playing fair and helping others. That's all gone now, money is our god and helping others is measured on political or economic return, not doing what's right. Further we are fast becoming like those races we once despised who blamed minority groups for the ills facing their country instead of stepping up and helping. I don’t know about gone now it went a while ago when Blair wanted to play cowboys and Indians with his mate Bush and that was all dressed up as helping people,well it helped Blair’s wallet and fed his ego and brought instability to the Middle East and upsurge of IS which lasts to this day. Yes this country did have a reputation for fairness and helping others but don’t blame the ordinary people because the ills of this country are not down to them but to a succession of politicians with more of an eye on selling this country out and the economic,political and social disaster of unfettered immigration. Thats not down to the people of this country but someone and his ilk mentioned earler.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 29, 2024 8:49:54 GMT
I'm no longer sure. I used to love the fact that in my younger days (Not slavery or empire, I'm not that old) British were known for playing fair and helping others. That's all gone now, money is our god and helping others is measured on political or economic return, not doing what's right. Further we are fast becoming like those races we once despised who blamed minority groups for the ills facing their country instead of stepping up and helping. I don’t know about gone now it went a while ago when Blair wanted to play cowboys and Indians with his mate Bush and that was all dressed up as helping people,well it helped Blair’s wallet and fed his ego and brought instability to the Middle East and upsurge of IS which lasts to this day. Yes this country did have a reputation for fairness and helping others but don’t blame the ordinary people because the ills of this country are not down to them but to a succession of politicians with more of an eye on selling this country out and the economic,political and social disaster of unfettered immigration. Thats not down to the people of this country but someone and his ilk mentioned earler.Exactly mate...
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Post by ginnyg2 on Feb 29, 2024 8:52:11 GMT
I'm no longer sure. I used to love the fact that in my younger days (Not slavery or empire, I'm not that old) British were known for playing fair and helping others. That's all gone now, money is our god and helping others is measured on political or economic return, not doing what's right. Further we are fast becoming like those races we once despised who blamed minority groups for the ills facing their country instead of stepping up and helping. I'm proud to be English.
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Post by Orac on Feb 29, 2024 9:00:41 GMT
If the way a country is run conforms (roughly) to the aggregate atmosphere / expectations / values of the community, then it will be at ease with itself.
The problem the uk has is that it is governed by an uncountable clique who run things increasingly in total opposition to the aggregate atmosphere and values of the people.
They are opening up a divide and they show no sign of relenting.
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Post by Dan Dare on Feb 29, 2024 9:29:40 GMT
There's not great deal wrong with Britain that having a population density similar to France couldn't resolve. With a corresponding reduction in the number of motor vehicles.
Viewed from outside the overwhelming impression, especially of England, is of a roiling ant-heap in which the competition for resources is acute.
Adding to the population as all mainstream political parties appear committed to do, at the behest of the interests that fund them, is not just adding fuel to the flames, it's also a deeply racist criminal folly.
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Post by piglet on Feb 29, 2024 10:13:43 GMT
Yes. We are not looking after ourselves though, we seem consumed by caring for owt else, but not ourselves. Britain comes first, we are not good at that. The Gaza jerks are making life difficult, what politician is going to sort that?....none. Even our leaders hate Britain and all it stands for, we are in big trouble. Demonstrations for gaza should be banned immediately backed up by vans and trunchioned police, looking to arrest.
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Post by Dan Dare on Feb 29, 2024 10:14:28 GMT
I'd add as a general observation that most of the reasons to be proud were already in place - or were commonplace - by the early 1960s. Little has happened since then that Britons can feel proud about.
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Post by Orac on Feb 29, 2024 10:20:15 GMT
I'm no longer sure. I used to love the fact that in my younger days (Not slavery or empire, I'm not that old) British were known for playing fair and helping others. That's all gone now, money is our god and helping others is measured on political or economic return, not doing what's right. Further we are fast becoming like those races we once despised who blamed minority groups for the ills facing their country instead of stepping up and helping. One day you are going to look in the cupboard for something the British own to give to someone else and there will be nothing left. I guess that's when the punishment beatings will start in earnest.
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Post by Hutchyns on Feb 29, 2024 10:24:07 GMT
jonksy Don't know. It might turn up somewhere. All we know for certain is that it hasn't been stuffed up the back of Lindsay Hoyle's shirt !
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Post by happyhornet on Feb 29, 2024 12:27:45 GMT
I'm no longer sure. I used to love the fact that in my younger days (Not slavery or empire, I'm not that old) British were known for playing fair and helping others. That's all gone now, money is our god and helping others is measured on political or economic return, not doing what's right. Further we are fast becoming like those races we once despised who blamed minority groups for the ills facing their country instead of stepping up and helping. In my lifetime the 2012 Olympics was the peak, Britain looked to be a modern, forward thinking nation that celebrated the contributions of all of our citizens. For me it slowly started to go downhill after that as the political discourse grew nastier and more divisive and large sections of the media and politicians seemed to decide that bigotry was something that had to be humoured. I believe this is linked to the growing gulf between rich and poor with the former using their influence of the media to whip up hatred against various minority groups to keep us plebs fighting among ourselves so we don't look up. 10 years ago the thought of me ever leaving Britain would have been unthinkable, now not so much. I still love Britain but no longer feel welcome in my own country.
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Post by Orac on Feb 29, 2024 12:42:34 GMT
I'm no longer sure. I used to love the fact that in my younger days (Not slavery or empire, I'm not that old) British were known for playing fair and helping others. That's all gone now, money is our god and helping others is measured on political or economic return, not doing what's right. Further we are fast becoming like those races we once despised who blamed minority groups for the ills facing their country instead of stepping up and helping. In my lifetime the 2012 Olympics was the peak, Britain looked to be a modern, forward thinking nation that celebrated the contributions of all of our citizens. For me it slowly started to go downhill after that as the political discourse grew nastier and more divisive and large sections of the media and politicians seemed to decide that bigotry was something that had to be humoured. This is just avoidance of the obvious - a magical explanation. The British public didn't suddenly turn bigoted. What actually happened is that they realised gradually that something that they were never very keen on was not going to remain small and not be moderated unless they shouted. The British public haven't changed much on the matter itself, they have just woken up to the realisation that it's becoming a crisis.
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Post by happyhornet on Feb 29, 2024 12:56:09 GMT
In my lifetime the 2012 Olympics was the peak, Britain looked to be a modern, forward thinking nation that celebrated the contributions of all of our citizens. For me it slowly started to go downhill after that as the political discourse grew nastier and more divisive and large sections of the media and politicians seemed to decide that bigotry was something that had to be humoured. This is just avoidance of the obvious - a magical explanation. The British public didn't suddenly turn bigoted. What actually happened is that they realised gradually that something that they were never very keen on was not going to remain small and not be moderated unless they shouted. The British public haven't changed much on the matter itself, they have just woken up to the realisation that it's becoming a crisis. I disagree, I think it was a very successful scapegoating campaign. I never felt unwelcome in my own country up until a few years ago.
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