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Post by Bentley on Mar 3, 2024 18:04:13 GMT
I know . The point is still valid nomatter how many times you repeat yourself If the age and gender are the same then they can't have been rejected because of age or gender. No they were rejected because their names threw up red flags to HR. Just as Fred Bloggs might throw up a red flag to the lap dance club. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 3, 2024 18:46:50 GMT
That's you making up what they think. If a Muslim is killed can I assume you support their murderer based on the idea that Brits think Muslims are the enemy among us? 'Making up what i think' = 'giving you my opinion' btw no, because western values don't (currently) support ,'by any means necessary' or 'god commands they be defeated'. I also don't (for instance) believe Muslim homelands should be demographically raided until their societies are destroyed and replaced. My preferred 'final solution' is a peaceful social technology known as a border. Jeez. The Koran condemns non believers to death, but states that's Allah's job Very much the same as the bible. The Koran tells Muslims: Be just: that is next to piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do.” The above verses clearly stated that Muslims need to treat non- Muslims justly and honourably. Muslims also need to guarantee freedom of others as can be understood from Surah al-Kafirun. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 3, 2024 18:51:47 GMT
Perhaps if you answered we might move forward. Perhaps if you and your oppo HH desisted from posing such ludicrous and fallacious hypotheticals we could make some significant progress. If that's the case demonstrate it. As for significant progress, that has never happened on here yet. I spend half my time reiterating my position to those who dearly want nothing more than someone to rant at. So good luck with that. In the meantime another thread has denigrated down to an anti Muslim racist free for all. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 3, 2024 19:12:53 GMT
Pontins has been condemned after a damning report found the firm discriminated against Irish Travellers who tried to book stays at its resorts.
The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) found Pontins, owned by Britannia Jinky Jersey Limited, drew up a list of common Irish surnames and labelled them "undesirable guests". Staff were told to decline or cancel bookings made under those names.Same principle as the HR departments that rejected certain names . Did Pontins employees refuse to book certain names because they wanted to sabotage Pontins by denying it income or bevayse they knew statistically the bookings will cause trouble? www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/pontins-shameful-blacklist-saw-guests-28632756
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 3, 2024 19:42:37 GMT
Pontins has been condemned after a damning report found the firm discriminated against Irish Travellers who tried to book stays at its resorts.
The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) found Pontins, owned by Britannia Jinky Jersey Limited, drew up a list of common Irish surnames and labelled them "undesirable guests". Staff were told to decline or cancel bookings made under those names.Same principle as the HR departments that rejected certain names . Did Pontins employees refuse to book certain names because they wanted to sabotage Pontins by denying it income or bevayse they knew statistically the bookings will cause trouble? www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/pontins-shameful-blacklist-saw-guests-28632756 Regardless of what their motives were they still discriminated. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 3, 2024 19:59:59 GMT
Pontins has been condemned after a damning report found the firm discriminated against Irish Travellers who tried to book stays at its resorts.
The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) found Pontins, owned by Britannia Jinky Jersey Limited, drew up a list of common Irish surnames and labelled them "undesirable guests". Staff were told to decline or cancel bookings made under those names.Same principle as the HR departments that rejected certain names . Did Pontins employees refuse to book certain names because they wanted to sabotage Pontins by denying it income or bevayse they knew statistically the bookings will cause trouble? www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/pontins-shameful-blacklist-saw-guests-28632756 Regardless of what their motives were they still discriminated. No more than the lap dance studio did when they denied Fred Bloggs the interview . Lefties like to roll out that 5 year old survey to prove the UK is racist when all they seem to prove is that there is a higher chance of people with certain names to be poor job candidates . Why should employers and services pay the price of woke lefties delusions ? |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 3, 2024 20:06:20 GMT
Regardless of what their motives were they still discriminated. No more than the lap dance studio did when they denied Fred Bloggs the interview . Lefties like to roll out that 5 year old survey to prove the UK is racist when all they seem to prove is that there is a higher chance of people with certain names to be poor job candidates . Why should employers and services pay the price of woke lefties delusions ? The Fred Bloggs example would only work if the exact same CV was submitted but the name was changed to Faisal Bashir. It doesn't prove that they're poor job candidates, there's no evidence for that, it proves they are discriminated against. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 3, 2024 20:35:47 GMT
Pontins has been condemned after a damning report found the firm discriminated against Irish Travellers who tried to book stays at its resorts.
The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) found Pontins, owned by Britannia Jinky Jersey Limited, drew up a list of common Irish surnames and labelled them "undesirable guests". Staff were told to decline or cancel bookings made under those names.Same principle as the HR departments that rejected certain names . Did Pontins employees refuse to book certain names because they wanted to sabotage Pontins by denying it income or bevayse they knew statistically the bookings will cause trouble? www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/pontins-shameful-blacklist-saw-guests-28632756 Regardless of what their motives were they still discriminated. I have to say they're a problem for my company, they see it as fair game to take whatever they can without paying and are very happy to intimidate staff with threats. Its not a pleasant experience entertaining them. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 3, 2024 20:54:56 GMT
"British citizens from ethnic minority backgrounds have to send, on average, 60% more job applications to get a positive response from employers compared to their white counterparts, according to researchers at Nuffield College's Centre for Social Investigation (CSI)." "Compared to White British applicants, people of: Pakistani heritage had to make 70% more applications Nigerian and South Asian heritage 80% more applications Middle Eastern and north African heritage 90% more applications" www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46927417I can hardly believe you're providing a left wing famously minority appeasing BBC link as a source of proof, lol. You might as well have gone the whole hog and given us the Guardian link, lets face it that's where the BBC get their 'facts' from. Anyone who thinks the best applicant gets the job has, quite obviously, never heard of 'diversity quotas' which means skin colour and ethnicity are far more important factors than qualifications and ability. Or to put it another way, diversity quotas have killed meritocracy. On a personal note I have first hand experience of racist diversity quotas. My son applied to join the police and was told all places for white entrants had been taken, he was invited to reapply in two years time. He didn't even get an interview because he had white skin. Pretty soon someone in a position of authority, someone who is not affraid of the outraged left wing mob, is going to speak out and say it as it is. Diversity quotas are a race to the bottom. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 3, 2024 21:00:36 GMT
No more than the lap dance studio did when they denied Fred Bloggs the interview . Lefties like to roll out that 5 year old survey to prove the UK is racist when all they seem to prove is that there is a higher chance of people with certain names to be poor job candidates . Why should employers and services pay the price of woke lefties delusions ? The Fred Bloggs example would only work if the exact same CV was submitted but the name was changed to Faisal Bashir. It doesn't prove that they're poor job candidates, there's no evidence for that, it proves they are discriminated against. Yes it would . It’s the same principle. Of course it means they are statistically poorer job candidates. Than would make more sense than a tacit agreement between HR departments to sabotage their employers or a deliberate recruitment of people in HR departments throughout the land who hate job seekers with certain names . That is moving into leftie delusion territory. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 3, 2024 21:39:56 GMT
Perhaps if you and your oppo HH desisted from posing such ludicrous and fallacious hypotheticals we could make some significant progress. If that's the case demonstrate it. How about, just as a for instance:
"...If you swapped the word Religion for the word Country, then could I expect you to keep your mouth shut if the Spanish government killed 5,000 Brits in Gibraltar on the premise they were after some terrorists hiding there? "
Completely daft.
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Post by zanygame on Mar 3, 2024 22:10:27 GMT
If that's the case demonstrate it. How about, just as a for instance:
"...If you swapped the word Religion for the word Country, then could I expect you to keep your mouth shut if the Spanish government killed 5,000 Brits in Gibraltar on the premise they were after some terrorists hiding there? "
Completely daft.
Really? You struggled to understand this analogy. |
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 3, 2024 23:45:53 GMT
Research from the Pew Research Centre.  As I said previously, Islam is incompatible with anything, other than Islam. This data demonstrates quite a significant issue with this group. You'll get the usual whataboutery with that kind of data by appeasers who would rather bury their head in the sand rather than admit it is an issue. It's like they tacitly endorse the data. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 4, 2024 5:40:15 GMT
The Fred Bloggs example would only work if the exact same CV was submitted but the name was changed to Faisal Bashir. It doesn't prove that they're poor job candidates, there's no evidence for that, it proves they are discriminated against. Yes it would . It’s the same principle. Of course it means they are statistically poorer job candidates. Than would make more sense than a tacit agreement between HR departments to sabotage their employers or a deliberate recruitment of people in HR departments throughout the land who hate job seekers with certain names . That is moving into leftie delusion territory. Where is the evidence that they are statistically poorer candidates? And if you think people don't act irrationally even against their own best interests I can only conclude that you've had a very sheltered life |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 4, 2024 5:42:16 GMT
"British citizens from ethnic minority backgrounds have to send, on average, 60% more job applications to get a positive response from employers compared to their white counterparts, according to researchers at Nuffield College's Centre for Social Investigation (CSI)." "Compared to White British applicants, people of: Pakistani heritage had to make 70% more applications Nigerian and South Asian heritage 80% more applications Middle Eastern and north African heritage 90% more applications" www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46927417I can hardly believe you're providing a left wing famously minority appeasing BBC link as a source of proof, lol. You might as well have gone the whole hog and given us the Guardian link, lets face it that's where the BBC get their 'facts' from. Anyone who thinks the best applicant gets the job has, quite obviously, never heard of 'diversity quotas' which means skin colour and ethnicity are far more important factors than qualifications and ability. Or to put it another way, diversity quotas have killed meritocracy. On a personal note I have first hand experience of racist diversity quotas. My son applied to join the police and was told all places for white entrants had been taken, he was invited to reapply in two years time. He didn't even get an interview because he had white skin. Pretty soon someone in a position of authority, someone who is not affraid of the outraged left wing mob, is going to speak out and say it as it is. Diversity quotas are a race to the bottom. The ONS unemployment statistics: "3% of white people were unemployed in 2022, compared with 6% of people from all other ethnic groups combined people from the combined Bangladeshi and Pakistani (9%), Asian ‘other’ (7%) and black (7%) ethnic groups had the highest unemployment rates out of all ethnic groups white people had the lowest unemployment rates out of all ethnic groups (3%)" www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/work-pay-and-benefits/unemployment-and-economic-inactivity/unemployment/latest/ |
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