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Post by Bentley on Mar 3, 2024 18:01:29 GMT
And a mass murderer, Psycho and dictator as well. All leaders dictate, don't they? I still have not heard how you came to the conclusion he was a mass murderer. I guess you heard it from GB News or the Daily Mail. Can I have your verbiage on that before I know if you have a point or not. I got it from many sources . Neither GB news or the DM. I came to the conclusion that he was a mass murderer because he deliberately killed millions of Chinese people . I didn’t get that from my Chinese CCP groomers either .
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 3, 2024 18:37:17 GMT
All leaders dictate, don't they? I still have not heard how you came to the conclusion he was a mass murderer. I guess you heard it from GB News or the Daily Mail. Can I have your verbiage on that before I know if you have a point or not. I got it from many sources . Neither GB news or the DM. I came to the conclusion that he was a mass murderer because he deliberately killed millions of Chinese people . I didn’t get that from my Chinese CCP groomers either . Well he was the leader of the rebellion army and engaged the Long March. This was all deliberate, but like in all war, it was kill or be killed. You can get some perspective on this matter by looking at how Churchill is so celebrated by the Brits. By your definition he too would be a mass murderer. I'm not making any judgment here, only saying how the whole thing played out and the reasons why people acted as they did. You look at how we portray life in the trenches. It was the bold British army taking on the evil fascists and we record and celebrate the great acts of bravery and the humanity of the officers like Montgomery and how he was such a fantasticality spirted leader. In doing this we don't think, all these people were working for the devil and were the pits of humanity. You also have to factor in the psychology of the Chinese is radically different from western culture which is based on classical philosophy and Latin. We share many common traits with the Europeans, but as for China, it developed much of the time in isolation to our own culture. The people who live there have different wants and needs. Chinese culture is they find having an emperor the normal thing, like we find having an elected prime minister the normal thing. It really does not worry them as long as the leader really is great. They would never have Angela Rayner run China with zero O levels. They find our parliament quite astonishing in fact.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 3, 2024 18:59:11 GMT
I got it from many sources . Neither GB news or the DM. I came to the conclusion that he was a mass murderer because he deliberately killed millions of Chinese people . I didn’t get that from my Chinese CCP groomers either . Well he was the leader of the rebellion army and engaged the Long March. This was all deliberate, but like in all war, it was kill or be killed. You can get some perspective on this matter by looking at how Churchill is so celebrated by the Brits. By your definition he too would be a mass murderer. I'm not making any judgment here, only saying how the whole thing played out and the reasons why people acted as they did. You look at how we portray life in the trenches. It was the bold British army taking on the evil fascists and we record and celebrate the great acts of bravery and the humanity of the officers like Montgomery and how he was such a fantasticality spirted leader. In doing this we don't think, all these people were working for the devil and were the pits of humanity. You also have to factor in the psychology of the Chinese is radically different from western culture which is based on classical philosophy and Latin. We share many common traits with the Europeans, but as for China, it developed much of the time in isolation to our own culture. The people who live there have different wants and needs. Chinese culture is they find having an emperor the normal thing, like we find having an elected prime minister the normal thing. It really does not worry them as long as the leader really is great. They would never have Angela Rayner run China with zero O levels. They find our parliament quite astonishing in fact. Some have called Churchill a mass murderer but I’m not talking about Churchill so your Whataboutery is merely a poor attempt at a straw man . Neither am I looking at Mao from a ‘ Chinese mentality’ point of view ( of which everyone and his dog knows is rather different from a Western view . I knew that decades ago) . I’m pointing out the fact that Mao was a mass murdering psychopath responsible for killing millions of his own people .
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 3, 2024 19:52:31 GMT
Well he was the leader of the rebellion army and engaged the Long March. This was all deliberate, but like in all war, it was kill or be killed. You can get some perspective on this matter by looking at how Churchill is so celebrated by the Brits. By your definition he too would be a mass murderer. I'm not making any judgment here, only saying how the whole thing played out and the reasons why people acted as they did. You look at how we portray life in the trenches. It was the bold British army taking on the evil fascists and we record and celebrate the great acts of bravery and the humanity of the officers like Montgomery and how he was such a fantasticality spirted leader. In doing this we don't think, all these people were working for the devil and were the pits of humanity. You also have to factor in the psychology of the Chinese is radically different from western culture which is based on classical philosophy and Latin. We share many common traits with the Europeans, but as for China, it developed much of the time in isolation to our own culture. The people who live there have different wants and needs. Chinese culture is they find having an emperor the normal thing, like we find having an elected prime minister the normal thing. It really does not worry them as long as the leader really is great. They would never have Angela Rayner run China with zero O levels. They find our parliament quite astonishing in fact. Some have called Churchill a mass murderer but I’m not talking about Churchill so your Whataboutery is merely a poor attempt at a straw man . Neither am I looking at Mao from a ‘ Chinese mentality’ point of view ( of which everyone and his dog knows is rather different from a Western view . I knew that decades ago) . I’m pointing out the fact that Mao was a mass murdering psychopath responsible for killing millions of his own people . You are just repeating yourself.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 3, 2024 19:54:43 GMT
Some have called Churchill a mass murderer but I’m not talking about Churchill so your Whataboutery is merely a poor attempt at a straw man . Neither am I looking at Mao from a ‘ Chinese mentality’ point of view ( of which everyone and his dog knows is rather different from a Western view . I knew that decades ago) . I’m pointing out the fact that Mao was a mass murdering psychopath responsible for killing millions of his own people . You are just repeating yourself. And you posting any old verbiage to obfuscate and deny the undeniable. Sometimes the naive need to be told more than once . You’re welcome .
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 3, 2024 20:04:50 GMT
You are just repeating yourself. And you posting any old verbiage to obfuscate and deny the undeniable. Sometimes the naive need to be told more than once . You’re welcome . I think I have covered all the aspects I wish to with regard to Mao and why people in China see him the way they do. By the way, when the Chinese speak of socialism, they have a rather different view on what the word means compared to Western nations. This can confuse the hell out of you. Think how it was at the turn of the century in Britain when we still had a powerful manufacturing industry and were top of the world in technology. As my grandmother said to me "everybody went to church in those days". The Chinese would call that socialism, i.e. being nice to one another, helping each other, being good neighbours. They don't liken it to Lenin and Stalinism.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2024 20:48:09 GMT
I was just wondering how we got 8 pages about GB News then realised it has become a CCP political broadcast.
I bet the CCP ban GB News if they can.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 3, 2024 20:53:02 GMT
And you posting any old verbiage to obfuscate and deny the undeniable. Sometimes the naive need to be told more than once . You’re welcome . I think I have covered all the aspects I wish to with regard to Mao and why people in China see him the way they do. By the way, when the Chinese speak of socialism, they have a rather different view on what the word means compared to Western nations. This can confuse the hell out of you. Think how it was at the turn of the century in Britain when we still had a powerful manufacturing industry and were top of the world in technology. As my grandmother said to me "everybody went to church in those days". The Chinese would call that socialism, i.e. being nice to one another, helping each other, being good neighbours. They don't liken it to Lenin and Stalinism. You certainly have covered all aspects of gullibility.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 3, 2024 21:15:36 GMT
I think I have covered all the aspects I wish to with regard to Mao and why people in China see him the way they do. By the way, when the Chinese speak of socialism, they have a rather different view on what the word means compared to Western nations. This can confuse the hell out of you. Think how it was at the turn of the century in Britain when we still had a powerful manufacturing industry and were top of the world in technology. As my grandmother said to me "everybody went to church in those days". The Chinese would call that socialism, i.e. being nice to one another, helping each other, being good neighbours. They don't liken it to Lenin and Stalinism. You certainly have covered all aspects of gullibility. I think if you were young and Chinese today you would be one of the luckiest on the planet. The next 30 years will see China rise to the top, and they will see a life of riches. God help those who are just in school in this country now. They know not what they are heading for, but I certainly would not like to be in their shoes. Mao's reputation will live on in China. He is a figurehead, like the panda is. I'm just really happy the country at least for now believes in peace. I've had enough of bombing the shit out of people you don't agree with.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 3, 2024 21:17:42 GMT
I was just wondering how we got 8 pages about GB News then realised it has become a CCP political broadcast. I bet the CCP ban GB News if they can. Apple Daily was the one they did not like.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 3, 2024 21:24:31 GMT
You certainly have covered all aspects of gullibility. I think if you were young and Chinese today you would be one of the luckiest on the planet. The next 30 years will see China rise to the top, and they will see a life of riches. God help those who are just in school in this country now. They know not what they are heading for, but I certainly would not like to be in their shoes. Mao's reputation will live on in China. He is a figurehead, like the panda is. I'm just really happy the country at least for now believes in peace. I've had enough of bombing the shit out of people you don't agree with. Some will see a life of riches , some won’t . Just like in the West . What they won’t see is the individualism revolution that the West saw in the 60s to ( arguably)2000s.( although that might be disappearing in the West) No hippies for them, no turn on , tune in, drop out for the Chinese . No dissent. No free thinking. Just social credits and collectivism. China isnt averse to bombing the shit out of people they don’t agree with. It’s just not the time to do it yet.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 3, 2024 21:53:37 GMT
I think if you were young and Chinese today you would be one of the luckiest on the planet. The next 30 years will see China rise to the top, and they will see a life of riches. God help those who are just in school in this country now. They know not what they are heading for, but I certainly would not like to be in their shoes. Mao's reputation will live on in China. He is a figurehead, like the panda is. I'm just really happy the country at least for now believes in peace. I've had enough of bombing the shit out of people you don't agree with. Some will see a life of riches , some won’t . Just like in the West . What they won’t see is the individualism revolution that the West saw in the 60s to ( arguably)2000s.( although that might be disappearing in the West) No hippies for them, no turn on , tune in, drop out for the Chinese . No dissent. No free thinking. Just social credits and collectivism. China isnt averse to bombing the shit out of people they don’t agree with. It’s just not the time to do it yet. I know what you mean. I spent years building up a huge collection of original 60s music with all the genius of that time and found it very inspiring. Then just around the mid 80s I had felt it was an end of an era and now we were being punted endless gay musak. Little did we know that just around the corner was the beginnings of another revolution. I just happened to be at both ends of it, i.e. within commuting distance of the M25 and part time in Madchester. I was just a cog in some bigger wheels, but added in my own ideas. So that was all amazing and I was amazed I had landed in the right place at the right time and with the right connections.
None of this really goes on now, and it was the same with pirate radio, which I was also involved in. Today, just as it was in the mid 80s, I see that as another passed era being forgotten about as the kids of today are trained in woke, but another surprise was recently when I was researching some underground music of the mid 80s Brits, and like this was really obscure today, it was all plastered over this website. The website was all in Chinese! I thought nothing of it for a while, but after listening to some Chinese produced Youtube videos on technical stuff, the background music incorporated all these things i recognised from the very same home brew Brit music of 30 years ago. They are digging it up and liking it, bless them. So there you go: Brits always seen as failing, but the underground talent is what they love. I guess it has some revolutionary overtones to it.
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 3, 2024 22:14:17 GMT
You certainly have covered all aspects of gullibility. I think if you were young and Chinese today you would be one of the luckiest on the planet. The next 30 years will see China rise to the top, and they will see a life of riches. God help those who are just in school in this country now. They know not what they are heading for, but I certainly would not like to be in their shoes. Mao's reputation will live on in China. He is a figurehead, like the panda is. I'm just really happy the country at least for now believes in peace. I've had enough of bombing the shit out of people you don't agree with. There is no freedom of speech in China, there is no democracy. You're deluded.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 3, 2024 22:45:19 GMT
I think if you were young and Chinese today you would be one of the luckiest on the planet. The next 30 years will see China rise to the top, and they will see a life of riches. God help those who are just in school in this country now. They know not what they are heading for, but I certainly would not like to be in their shoes. Mao's reputation will live on in China. He is a figurehead, like the panda is. I'm just really happy the country at least for now believes in peace. I've had enough of bombing the shit out of people you don't agree with. There is no freedom of speech in China, there is no democracy. You're deluded. They do have mass surveillance but it is mostly machines watching what goes on and they flag up anything suspicious. It can be all sorts of stuff that is prohibited, but often it means the nearest policeman will come over and say, hey you are not supposed to park there and they will say very sorry and that would be the end of the matter. They nip trouble in the bud and as long as you are cool with them and don't take the piss they will not be heavy handed, or if there is a punishment it will be a fine, but the police are good at letting people off if they have a good excuse. It take a bit of getting used to the difference in approach with law in the UK and China. In China the policeman has far more discretion. They take the intelligent approach. They also have a bit of a turn a blind eye attitude. A friend of mine was at the airport and he was at the security desk next to a big no smoking sign and the head of security come to see him about his baggage enquiry smoking a fag! It's like rules can sometimes be optional. Of course it all depends on what you do. If you pulled a long knife out and were threatening someone with it you would be snatched off the street in seconds. This is why the place is so calm and peaceful. All the dodgy types have been re-educated.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 3, 2024 23:23:45 GMT
Dictatorship looking for dissidents to lock up / kill.
Fuck the Chinese Communist dictatorship.
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