|
|
Post by sandypine on Nov 21, 2022 19:53:53 GMT
And the Remain campaign has continued apace since 2016 well funded and well supported by those in positions to put their case. With the general support of the 'impartial' news services. Yes, many Remainers are quite upbeat at the moment. Yes I can see that but realistically no good will come of it. Society has fractured in many ways and Leave and Remain is but one. After 6 years of trying to obtain the voted for Brexit we are still pretty far from it with all the machinations and maneuverings of those in power who were trying their best to stop it in one way or another. You may get your way but it will be one more nail in the coffin of a UK democracy. |
|
|
|
Post by bancroft on Nov 21, 2022 19:55:01 GMT
The pundits got it wrong in 2016 and blamed it on shy Brexiters. No point in reversing anything until the Scots have their independence referendum and remember their first referendum was in 2014 before Brexit. You see they voted to remain so lets see if they will pull out, if not then a boost for the Remain campaign. I think the shy Brexit vote is still strong and is still the majority in England annoyed at the boat people arrivals as well as ongoing high levels of immigration. At the ballot box people have to make a true decision, when a pollster calls they can tell all sorts of tales and it seems they do. If Scotland leave as an Independent nation then England and whoever else is in the Union will have a stronger leave vote.Re the bold I think the same. Remember we have Brexit ( of sorts ) so Brexiters are not really currently campaigning. |
|
|
|
Post by Einhorn on Nov 21, 2022 20:04:39 GMT
Yes, many Remainers are quite upbeat at the moment. Yes I can see that but realistically no good will come of it. Society has fractured in many ways and Leave and Remain is but one. After 6 years of trying to obtain the voted for Brexit we are still pretty far from it with all the machinations and maneuverings of those in power who were trying their best to stop it in one way or another. You may get your way but it will be one more nail in the coffin of a UK democracy. I feel your pain, Sandy. |
|
|
|
Post by sandypine on Nov 21, 2022 21:31:05 GMT
Yes I can see that but realistically no good will come of it. Society has fractured in many ways and Leave and Remain is but one. After 6 years of trying to obtain the voted for Brexit we are still pretty far from it with all the machinations and maneuverings of those in power who were trying their best to stop it in one way or another. You may get your way but it will be one more nail in the coffin of a UK democracy. I feel your pain, Sandy. As long as you only have to empathise. Realistically I see the UK being led by the nose to an EU modern which will then settle into a globalist Empire where what the people want will be considered, talked about, modified, discussed and rejected. Perhaps we may go gently into that good night but I fear there may be rage rage against the dying of the light and empathy will be the least of our worries. |
|
|
|
Post by Steve on Nov 21, 2022 23:17:42 GMT
As long as you only have to empathise. Realistically I see the UK being led by the nose to an EU modern which will then settle into a globalist Empire where what the people want will be considered, talked about, modified, discussed and rejected. Perhaps we may go gently into that good night but I fear there may be rage rage against the dying of the light and empathy will be the least of our worries. What is this, Paranoia Club? |
|
|
|
Post by Montegriffo on Nov 21, 2022 23:21:47 GMT
As long as you only have to empathise. Realistically I see the UK being led by the nose to an EU modern which will then settle into a globalist Empire where what the people want will be considered, talked about, modified, discussed and rejected. Perhaps we may go gently into that good night but I fear there may be rage rage against the dying of the light and empathy will be the least of our worries. What is this, Paranoia Club? The first rule of paranoia club is you don't talk about paranoia club. |
|
|
|
Post by Einhorn on Nov 21, 2022 23:50:04 GMT
What is this, Paranoia Club? The first rule of paranoia club is you don't talk about paranoia club. The first rule of Paranoia Club is that all the other rules are plotting against you. |
|
