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Post by dodgydave on Jun 3, 2024 1:13:24 GMT
We have a choice between left and left establishment parties. What sort of political conversation are you after? The lie that the two parties are the same, is Tory propaganda. i.e. If there's no difference then why change one for the other. The Tories will do what they have always done that is to lie, insinuate and deceive in any way they can in their efforts to undermine Labour. And apparently 70% of the time the electorate swallow their deceitful approach and allow them to continue to mismanage and damage the country. Are you saying Labour don't lie? Labour keep saying the economy was crashed by Truss and that is why inflation and mortgage rates are so high. NO MENTION that the majority of the damage was done by things LABOUR SUPPORTED... ie the Covid lockdowns and the sanctions placed on Putin. NO MENTION that America, Canada the Eurozone are suffering with similar interest rates too. If you are dishonest about the problem, how can you ever solve it? I want a Social Democratic government, but Starmer is a fucking clown. He spent the last 3 years telling the public they are highly taxed, when we are not compared to most of Western Europe. This utterly stupid position has now backed Labour into a corner. People have waited 14 years for a Labour government and this dickhead has made it so they cannot increase the size of the state... so what is the point of voting Labour exactly? People (including me) were optimistic when Labour won in 1997... now everybody is preparing for a government than can achieve virtually nothing, and are only there because people were sick of hearing about the Tories. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 3, 2024 17:08:23 GMT
The lie that the two parties are the same, is Tory propaganda. i.e. If there's no difference then why change one for the other. The Tories will do what they have always done that is to lie, insinuate and deceive in any way they can in their efforts to undermine Labour. And apparently 70% of the time the electorate swallow their deceitful approach and allow them to continue to mismanage and damage the country. Are you saying Labour don't lie? Labour keep saying the economy was crashed by Truss and that is why inflation and mortgage rates are so high. NO MENTION that the majority of the damage was done by things LABOUR SUPPORTED... ie the Covid lockdowns and the sanctions placed on Putin. NO MENTION that America, Canada the Eurozone are suffering with similar interest rates too. If you are dishonest about the problem, how can you ever solve it? I want a Social Democratic government, but Starmer is a fucking clown. He spent the last 3 years telling the public they are highly taxed, when we are not compared to most of Western Europe. This utterly stupid position has now backed Labour into a corner. People have waited 14 years for a Labour government and this dickhead has made it so they cannot increase the size of the state... so what is the point of voting Labour exactly? People (including me) were optimistic when Labour won in 1997... now everybody is preparing for a government than can achieve virtually nothing, and are only there because people were sick of hearing about the Tories. I pointed out the nasty lying crap that oozes out of the Tory propaganda machine (and from your posts), as you once again prove that YOU are a fucking clown LOL who is always willing to throw your dollop of shite against Labour. You are way too politically biased to have any credibility in a political debate. You should take some time out and do some political maturing. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 3, 2024 17:13:15 GMT
You should have aimed your comments at Pacifico, it had nothing to do with me. You don't know logic and fair, you are far too far to the right for that. I answered your post because you posted it ffs. The rest of your post merely reflects your delusion of ‘ if I think it, then it must be right ‘. You answer the post the way you did because you didn't understand it. So I suggest you get off that slide that takes you back to the schoolyard. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 3, 2024 20:58:26 GMT
I answered your post because you posted it ffs. The rest of your post merely reflects your delusion of ‘ if I think it, then it must be right ‘. You answer the post the way you did because you didn't understand it. So I suggest you get of that slide that takes you back to the schoolyard. Just mirroring posts and projection again from the pretend psychologist. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2024 21:17:49 GMT
Are you saying Labour don't lie? Labour keep saying the economy was crashed by Truss and that is why inflation and mortgage rates are so high. NO MENTION that the majority of the damage was done by things LABOUR SUPPORTED... ie the Covid lockdowns and the sanctions placed on Putin. NO MENTION that America, Canada the Eurozone are suffering with similar interest rates too. If you are dishonest about the problem, how can you ever solve it? I want a Social Democratic government, but Starmer is a fucking clown. He spent the last 3 years telling the public they are highly taxed, when we are not compared to most of Western Europe. This utterly stupid position has now backed Labour into a corner. People have waited 14 years for a Labour government and this dickhead has made it so they cannot increase the size of the state... so what is the point of voting Labour exactly? People (including me) were optimistic when Labour won in 1997... now everybody is preparing for a government than can achieve virtually nothing, and are only there because people were sick of hearing about the Tories. I pointed out the nasty lying crap that oozes out of the Tory propaganda machine (and from your posts), as you once again prove that YOU are a fucking clown LOL who is always willing to throw your dollop of shite against Labour. You are way too politically biased to have any credibility in a political debate. You should take some time out and do some political maturing. Disgraceful.
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Post by Totheleft on Jun 4, 2024 5:38:48 GMT
I pointed out the nasty lying crap that oozes out of the Tory propaganda machine (and from your posts), as you once again prove that YOU are a fucking clown LOL who is always willing to throw your dollop of shite against Labour. You are way too politically biased to have any credibility in a political debate. You should take some time out and do some political maturing. Disgraceful.
Yes it is Disgraceful but he's not the only one on this board . |
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Post by see2 on Jun 4, 2024 6:50:46 GMT
You answer the post the way you did because you didn't understand it. So I suggest you get of that slide that takes you back to the schoolyard. Just mirroring posts and projection again from the pretend psychologist. You just make a fool of yourself in talking about yourself that way LOL. BYE. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 4, 2024 7:01:22 GMT
I pointed out the nasty lying crap that oozes out of the Tory propaganda machine (as too from your posts LOL), as you once again prove that YOU are a fucking clown LOL who is always willing to throw your dollop of shite against Labour. You are way too politically biased to have any credibility in a political debate. You should take some time out and do some political maturing. Disgraceful.
Yes, that's why I point it out. Just this morning there was a Conservative minister on TV STATING a Labour government would be week on everything (the Tories are already week on LOL). Just propaganda lying. Lying and insinuated lying comes natural to Conservative Ministers, the last very recent lie by Tory minister, as I posted at the time, was that the last Labour government destroyed the economy. Lying is in the Tory DNA. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 4, 2024 11:02:12 GMT
Just mirroring posts and projection again from the pretend psychologist. You just make a fool of yourself in talking about yourself that way LOL. BYE. You just made another projection post .. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 4, 2024 11:04:03 GMT
Yes, that's why I point it out. Just this morning there was a Conservative minister on TV STATING a Labour government would be week on everything (the Tories are already week on LOL). Just propaganda lying. Lying and insinuated lying comes natural to Conservative Ministers, the last very recent lie by Tory minister, as I posted at the time, was that the last Labour government destroyed the economy. Lying is in the Tory DNA. Irony from the bloke who pretends to be a psychologist. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 4, 2024 22:24:35 GMT
Yes, that's why I point it out. Just this morning there was a Conservative minister on TV STATING a Labour government would be week on everything (the Tories are already week on LOL). Just propaganda lying. Lying and insinuated lying comes natural to Conservative Ministers, the last very recent lie by Tory minister, as I posted at the time, was that the last Labour government destroyed the economy. Lying is in the Tory DNA. Irony from the bloke who pretends to be a psychologist. Lies from a liar ^^^ don't impress me in the least. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 4, 2024 22:52:48 GMT
Irony from the bloke who pretends to be a psychologist. Lies from a liar ^^^ don't impress me in the least. Oh the irony …again .. |
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Post by dodgydave on Jun 5, 2024 1:49:53 GMT
Are you saying Labour don't lie? Labour keep saying the economy was crashed by Truss and that is why inflation and mortgage rates are so high. NO MENTION that the majority of the damage was done by things LABOUR SUPPORTED... ie the Covid lockdowns and the sanctions placed on Putin. NO MENTION that America, Canada the Eurozone are suffering with similar interest rates too. If you are dishonest about the problem, how can you ever solve it? I want a Social Democratic government, but Starmer is a fucking clown. He spent the last 3 years telling the public they are highly taxed, when we are not compared to most of Western Europe. This utterly stupid position has now backed Labour into a corner. People have waited 14 years for a Labour government and this dickhead has made it so they cannot increase the size of the state... so what is the point of voting Labour exactly? People (including me) were optimistic when Labour won in 1997... now everybody is preparing for a government than can achieve virtually nothing, and are only there because people were sick of hearing about the Tories. I pointed out the nasty lying crap that oozes out of the Tory propaganda machine (and from your posts), as you once again prove that YOU are a fucking clown LOL who is always willing to throw your dollop of shite against Labour. You are way too politically biased to have any credibility in a political debate. You should take some time out and do some political maturing. Ah name calling, the sign you have no answer to my points... because I have you in check mate. What is my bias? You keep calling me biased yet you never explain what it is? I'm not a biased hypocrite, so I am FREE TO SAY BOTH THE CURRENT TORY LEADERSHIP, AND THE CURRENT LABOUR LEADERSHIP LIE. What kind of a moron calls out a party out for lying then votes for another that lies? Oh yeah, that would be you lol. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 5, 2024 23:29:58 GMT
I pointed out the nasty lying crap that oozes out of the Tory propaganda machine (and from your posts), as you once again prove that YOU are a fucking clown LOL who is always willing to throw your dollop of shite against Labour. You are way too politically biased to have any credibility in a political debate. You should take some time out and do some political maturing. Ah name calling, the sign you have no answer to my points... because I have you in check mate. What is my bias? You keep calling me biased yet you never explain what it is? I'm not a biased hypocrite, so I am FREE TO SAY BOTH THE CURRENT TORY LEADERSHIP, AND THE CURRENT LABOUR LEADERSHIP LIE. What kind of a moron calls out a party out for lying then votes for another that lies? Oh yeah, that would be you lol.Your lying bigoted and biased garbage is exposed in the way you ignored the gist of my post you replied to, with your usual dollop of trash. LOL You need to learn how to play chess. |
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Post by dodgydave on Jun 6, 2024 0:18:38 GMT
Ah name calling, the sign you have no answer to my points... because I have you in check mate. What is my bias? You keep calling me biased yet you never explain what it is? I'm not a biased hypocrite, so I am FREE TO SAY BOTH THE CURRENT TORY LEADERSHIP, AND THE CURRENT LABOUR LEADERSHIP LIE. What kind of a moron calls out a party out for lying then votes for another that lies? Oh yeah, that would be you lol.Your lying bigoted and biased garbage is exposed in the way you ignored the gist of my post you replied to, with your usual dollop of trash. LOL You need to learn how to play chess. |
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