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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 16, 2024 16:13:34 GMT
Clearly not 'selective' enough, it's not a secret, and in fact just a loose search on any 'search engine' would suggest that Ranyner and Co. Unionists have made plans for Rayner to Govern already, I suspect Starmer and the rest of the docile Labour have only just realised the non-violent Coup awaiting them. So you claim to have made the search already, but still can't provide a link. Looks might suspicious, doesn't it. Methinks the lady doth protest too much... All The Best LOL............
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Post by ratcliff on Apr 16, 2024 16:17:13 GMT
My opinion? You stated that you had never previously heard the view I simply stated that the common viewpoint has been widely circulating in the media for monthsThe fact that you lack initiative/are too lazy/are deliberately unaware/want everything on a plate wrapped up with a pretty bow and cannot use google is your problem , not mine I follow politics pretty damn closely; I have never heard anything about it. The one place I don't follow politics is Social Media - because 99.9% of that is either bullshit, or bat-shit crazy conspiracy theories. It simply has not cropped up on mainstream media outlets. So yes, YOUR opinion. Now you've twice claimed it is a "widely circulated common viewpoint" but have not managed to present even one link to support that claim. So it is either not widely circulated, or not a common viewpoint, or - as seems most likely - neither. All The Best You don't follow politics on social media? Why then are you posting on social media political debate fora ? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 16, 2024 16:20:20 GMT
I follow politics pretty damn closely; I have never heard anything about it. The one place I don't follow politics is Social Media - because 99.9% of that is either bullshit, or bat-shit crazy conspiracy theories. It simply has not cropped up on mainstream media outlets. So yes, YOUR opinion. Now you've twice claimed it is a "widely circulated common viewpoint" but have not managed to present even one link to support that claim. So it is either not widely circulated, or not a common viewpoint, or - as seems most likely - neither. All The Best You don't follow politics on social media? Why then are you posting on social media political debate fora ? LOL..... he's starting to sound like the Roy Cropper ..... of the forum. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 16, 2024 16:24:19 GMT
Now you've twice claimed it is a "widely circulated common viewpoint" but have not managed to present even one link to support that claim... You obviously haven't been folowing that closely then, Nulla. How about a link from your very own Grauniad for starters?
And there are many more if you search. All the best.  |
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 16, 2024 17:09:45 GMT
So you claim to have made the search already, but still can't provide a link. Looks might suspicious, doesn't it. Methinks the lady doth protest too much... All The Best LOL............
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KmxxIM0fk8But saying she has what it takes to PM of she needs to be is NOT proof she intends to stab Starmer in the back, not even close. I could take over my boss's role right now if I needed to, I have no intention of stabbing them in the back; I am just ready to step up when needed - like I do every time they take a vacation, or are ill, or need time off for family reasons. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 16, 2024 17:12:00 GMT
Now you've twice claimed it is a "widely circulated common viewpoint" but have not managed to present even one link to support that claim... You obviously haven't been folowing that closely then, Nulla. How about a link from your very own Grauniad for starters?
And there are many more if you search. All the best. Not "my own Gauniad". Stopped regularly reading the Guardian nearly two decades ago. That was Starmer moving against Rayner, 3 years ago; hardly proof Rayner is planning a move against Starmer now. I am wondering if you or Fairsociety actually even understand what supporting proof for your arguments even looks like. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 16, 2024 17:13:16 GMT
I follow politics pretty damn closely; I have never heard anything about it. The one place I don't follow politics is Social Media - because 99.9% of that is either bullshit, or bat-shit crazy conspiracy theories. It simply has not cropped up on mainstream media outlets. So yes, YOUR opinion. Now you've twice claimed it is a "widely circulated common viewpoint" but have not managed to present even one link to support that claim. So it is either not widely circulated, or not a common viewpoint, or - as seems most likely - neither. All The Best You don't follow politics on social media? Why then are you posting on social media political debate fora ? I mean the throw away social media platforms, like twatter, and X (or whatever it is called this week) and such like. All The Best |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 16, 2024 17:43:27 GMT
You obviously haven't been folowing that closely then, Nulla. How about a link from your very own Grauniad for starters?
And there are many more if you search. All the best. Not "my own Gauniad". Stopped regularly reading the Guardian nearly two decades ago. That was Starmer moving against Rayner, 3 years ago; hardly proof Rayner is planning a move against Starmer now. I am wondering if you or Fairsociety actually even understand what supporting proof for your arguments even looks like. All The Best Oh Nulla, your imperviousness to truth and evidence strikes again.
I had hopes for you but you are clearly just Another Generic Lefty.
Not that you're alone: We've had quite the influx of AGLs recently.
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 16, 2024 18:12:30 GMT
Not "my own Gauniad". Stopped regularly reading the Guardian nearly two decades ago. That was Starmer moving against Rayner, 3 years ago; hardly proof Rayner is planning a move against Starmer now. I am wondering if you or Fairsociety actually even understand what supporting proof for your arguments even looks like. All The Best Oh Nulla, your imperviousness to truth and evidence strikes again.
I had hopes for you but you are clearly just Another Generic Lefty.
Not that you're alone: We've had quite the influx of AGLs recently.
I am not impervious to truth or evidence. Its just you have NOT posted any evidence to suggest your claim is even remotely true. All I asked for was one single shred of evidence that Rayner is intent on politically stabbing Starmer in the back in the near future; you post stiff from 3 years ago that showed Starmer stabbing Rayner in the back. Because I pointed that out you think I am impervious to evidence and truth? I am impervious to bullshit, and that is what you posted. All The Best |
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Post by witchfinder on Apr 16, 2024 19:41:38 GMT
Letter to The Times 16th April 2024
Sir, having served 9 years as an MP, I know how low politicians can stoop when their backs are against the wall. But the Conservative attack on Angela Rayner is one of the most grotesque spectacles of hypocrisy I have witnessed.
On one side is a billionaire Tory MP, Lord Ashcroft, and a multi millionaire Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, whos families have all avoided paying millions of pounds in UK taxes as beneficiaries of non-dom status, and who live lives of luxury.
On the other is a woman who grew up in poverty caring for her illiterate mother, and who is now mother to a child who is registered blind, and who through her own guts and character has risen to be deputy leader of the Labour Party.
Even Rayners accusers accept that the most she might have benefited from the error that they allege - and which she denies - is less than £3000 in tax.
I suppose that her attackers cannot bear the idea that they are about to lose to a woman who pulled herself up by her bootstraps. And who is going to wipe the floor with them.
Nick Boles
(former Conservative MP for Grantham & Stamford)
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 16, 2024 19:58:47 GMT
Letter to The Times 16th April 2024 Sir, having served 9 years as an MP, I know how low politicians can stoop when their backs are against the wall. But the Conservative attack on Angela Rayner is one of the most grotesque spectacles of hypocrisy I have witnessed.
On one side is a billionaire Tory MP, Lord Ashcroft, and a multi millionaire Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, whos families have all avoided paying millions of pounds in UK taxes as beneficiaries of non-dom status, and who live lives of luxury.
On the other is a woman who grew up in poverty caring for her illiterate mother, and who is now mother to a child who is registered blind, and who through her own guts and character has risen to be deputy leader of the Labour Party.
Even Rayners accusers accept that the most she might have benefited from the ERROR that they allege - and which she denies - is less than £3000 in tax.
I suppose that her attackers cannot bear the idea that they are about to lose to a woman who pulled herself up by her bootstraps. And who is going to wipe the floor with them.
Nick Boles
(former Conservative MP for Grantham & Stamford) I doubt if the boot was on the other foot BIG GOB Rayner would accept it was a 'error' ...... |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 17, 2024 4:45:21 GMT
I am not impervious to truth or evidence... And yet every time such is provided you ignore or deny it. Nope, you're an AGL - straight out of the See2 school. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 17, 2024 5:02:19 GMT
Is it me, or do lefties always shout?..
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Post by patman post on Apr 17, 2024 7:46:01 GMT
Oh Nulla, your imperviousness to truth and evidence strikes again.
I had hopes for you but you are clearly just Another Generic Lefty.
Not that you're alone: We've had quite the influx of AGLs recently.
I am not impervious to truth or evidence. Its just you have NOT posted any evidence to suggest your claim is even remotely true. All I asked for was one single shred of evidence that Rayner is intent on politically stabbing Starmer in the back in the near future; you post stiff from 3 years ago that showed Starmer stabbing Rayner in the back. Because I pointed that out you think I am impervious to evidence and truth? I am impervious to bullshit, and that is what you posted. All The Best Rayner should step down until the investigations are over. The allegations of wrongdoing are distracting attention away most other Labour coverage while she remains in place. Mid term this may not have been so much of a problem, but in 12 months of electioneering it is proving harmful… |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2024 8:51:11 GMT
Is it me, or do lefties always shout?.. They shout and break rule 5. Jihadis seem to like it, too. |
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