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Post by Pacifico on Apr 12, 2024 21:16:26 GMT
At present, no one on these boards has any idea as to whether Angela Rayner is, or is not guilty of either tax evasion or breaking election rules in relation to the electoral registar, and there s no point in speculationg. I will await the outcome of official police investigations before commenting Being guilty is not the issue - just being under investigation is a resigning offence...  |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 12, 2024 21:23:58 GMT
Now there's a formal investigation then I think if she is found guilty she will have no choice but to resign. Which is a bit of a shame, she is more real Labour than Starmer will ever be. Of course, admitting the mea culpa and resigning would restore some small measure of integrity. It would likely lead to her being more quickly rehabilitated back into front line politics. Where is Johnson's political career right now, spaffed up a wall? All The Best I dont think there is any chance of her being found guilty - apparently there is a time limit for prosecutions and she is now outside of the timeframe. Looks like she got away with it. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 12, 2024 21:31:58 GMT
It has just been announced that Raynor says she will "step down" if it transpires that she has committed an offence. It doesn't make clear what she will step down from, being a Deputy Leader or as an MP. What ever the true story behind this the Tories are going for her in a big way, no doubt remembering her boozed up gobbing off about scum. Meanwhile it is quite uplifting to see the dismay within the Labour leadership with Reeves and Starmer refusing to back her and not actually saying they are not backing her, great fun. She added: "The questions raised relate to a time before I was an MP and I have set out my family's circumstances and taken expert tax and legal advice.
I presume we will be footing the bill for that through her parliamentary expenses or thrugh the monry parliament gives the party ? |
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Post by ratcliff on Apr 12, 2024 21:32:21 GMT
Now there's a formal investigation then I think if she is found guilty she will have no choice but to resign. Which is a bit of a shame, she is more real Labour than Starmer will ever be. Of course, admitting the mea culpa and resigning would restore some small measure of integrity. It would likely lead to her being more quickly rehabilitated back into front line politics. Where is Johnson's political career right now, spaffed up a wall? All The Best I dont think there is any chance of her being found guilty - apparently there is a time limit for prosecutions and she is now outside of the timeframe. Looks like she got away with it. HMRC can go back 20 years |
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 12, 2024 21:49:34 GMT
Now there's a formal investigation then I think if she is found guilty she will have no choice but to resign. Which is a bit of a shame, she is more real Labour than Starmer will ever be. Of course, admitting the mea culpa and resigning would restore some small measure of integrity. It would likely lead to her being more quickly rehabilitated back into front line politics. Where is Johnson's political career right now, spaffed up a wall? All The Best I dont think there is any chance of her being found guilty - apparently there is a time limit for prosecutions and she is now outside of the timeframe. Looks like she got away with it. It depends what she "got away with" The original accusation as laid out here www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68428229 is that she misrepresented, to the tax authorities, her main residence at the time she sold it. The evidence for that seems to be different addresses given for where she lived at the time of the birth of her children and the point is under the tax rules a couple cannot, after marriage or civil partnership, consider more than one property as a main residence for the purpose of obtaining relief from capital gains tax.
HMRC current practice is that an "innocent mistake" can be pursued for four years, the maximum time that YOU have to pursue them for money they screwed from you no matter how crooked their actions, SIX years if they consider you "careless" or "negligent" (like when the DWP fuck up your carer's allowance despite being warned by HMRC you're earning too mucj and you fail to contact HMRC to tell them the DWP have fucked up) and TWENTY years if they find you've squirrelled money away in a Bahamain Tax Evasion Scheme and neglected to give a Peerage to the person ent to investigate you
As the house was bought in 2007 and she married in 2015, that means she could be pursued for the evasion until 2035. But I suspect her ex CPS boss will have a quiet word and push it down to something they cannot pursue past 2021
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Post by Bentley on Apr 12, 2024 22:33:17 GMT
So no different to lefties then.. Except that in this area the Righties are better and far more repeatedly guilty of it. Even if one was not taking notice of the crap thrown at NL MPS, one only has to take note of how Righties behave on this forum. Oh the irony . |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 12, 2024 22:34:35 GMT
Of course it’s my opinion you idiot .Do you think I would post your opinion? She has every right to hide and others have every right to question why she is hiding . Just how stupid can you get? When you can't even understand the meaning behind an often used comment that has its meaning LOL BYE More giggling from you then . |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 12, 2024 22:41:48 GMT
Now there's a formal investigation then I think if she is found guilty she will have no choice but to resign. Which is a bit of a shame, she is more real Labour than Starmer will ever be. Of course, admitting the mea culpa and resigning would restore some small measure of integrity. It would likely lead to her being more quickly rehabilitated back into front line politics. Where is Johnson's political career right now, spaffed up a wall? All The Best Indeed. She may return to front line politics whereas Johnson spaffed his career by being mayor ofLondon for 8 years and Prime minister for 3 years . |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 12, 2024 23:55:14 GMT
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 13, 2024 0:06:20 GMT
Now there's a formal investigation then I think if she is found guilty she will have no choice but to resign. Which is a bit of a shame, she is more real Labour than Starmer will ever be. Of course, admitting the mea culpa and resigning would restore some small measure of integrity. It would likely lead to her being more quickly rehabilitated back into front line politics. Where is Johnson's political career right now, spaffed up a wall? All The Best Indeed. She may return to front line politics whereas Johnson spaffed his career by being mayor ofLondon for 8 years and Prime minister for 3 years . Yeah, but he's done now. Couldn't win votes from hungry dogs of he had a lamb chop tied to him. All The Best |
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Post by dodgydave on Apr 13, 2024 1:40:43 GMT
The electoral roll stuff has already timed out, that is why she is so confident of the police investigation going nowhere.
Her main problem is going to be the right to buy discount, capital gains tax, undeclared income if she was charging her brother rent, council tax benefit and other benefits she might have been claiming as a single person.
Tax matters are confidential so I doubt we will find out the outcome of any HMRC investigation.
I highly doubt she will end up quitting over this, her problem will be that mud sticks, and this will do just enough reputational damage to stop her from back stabbing Starmer to become PM.
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Post by see2 on Apr 13, 2024 7:26:40 GMT
At present, no one on these boards has any idea as to whether Angela Rayner is, or is not guilty of either tax evasion or breaking election rules in relation to the electoral registar, and there s no point in speculationg. I will await the outcome of official police investigations before commenting Being guilty is not the issue - just being under investigation is a resigning offence... Only if there is actual evidence of guilt, as opposed to insinuated evidence. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 13, 2024 7:29:57 GMT
LOL - very good..  |
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Post by om15 on Apr 13, 2024 7:35:24 GMT
The Tory Party merely wish to hold Ms Raynor to the high standards that she demands of others. If Ms Raynor has either intentionally or inadvertently broken electoral rules then she must apologise and resign, as she has vowed to do. I haven't seen the Tories insulting or making insinuations against Ms Raynor. Just expressig a simple desire for justice.
Perhaps it comforts you to think this is a Tory plot rather than criminality by the Deputy Leader of he Labour Party
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Post by see2 on Apr 13, 2024 7:37:01 GMT
But it never stopped starmer did it pv? Ask the police ^^^ I would accept their comments a million times over before accepting the distorted comments by people who allow politically sick newspapers like the mail and the express to do their thinking for them. |
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