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Post by Pacifico on Apr 13, 2024 7:38:48 GMT
All the Lefties who demanded Boris resign over a piece of cake are now saying "Oh come on, it's only one and a half grand"...  |
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Post by see2 on Apr 13, 2024 7:43:25 GMT
The Tory Party merely wish to hold Ms Raynor to the high standards that she demands of others. If Ms Raynor has either intentionally or inadvertently broken electoral rules then she must apologise and resign, as she has vowed to do. I haven't seen the Tories insulting or making insinuations against Ms Raynor. Just expressig a simple desire for justice.Perhaps it comforts you to think this is a Tory plot rather than criminality by the Deputy Leader of he Labour Party I was in full agreement with your post before you posted the entirely misleading (highlighted) comment above. Perhaps you could put your imagination aside and join the real world? |
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Post by see2 on Apr 13, 2024 7:45:50 GMT
Except that in this area the Righties are better and far more repeatedly guilty of it. Even if one was not taking notice of the crap thrown at NL MPS, one only has to take note of how Righties behave on this forum. Oh the irony . Oh! the simple mindedness ^^^ |
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Post by see2 on Apr 13, 2024 7:48:53 GMT
LOL - very good.. I think your use of bloggers and insinuations seriously undermines your credibility. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 13, 2024 8:05:24 GMT
Indeed. She may return to front line politics whereas Johnson spaffed his career by being mayor ofLondon for 8 years and Prime minister for 3 years . Yeah, but he's done now. Couldn't win votes from hungry dogs of he had a lamb chop tied to him. All The Best Well to be fair he's going to have a singularly more wealthy non productive lifetime than you or I will manage so from his perspective, job done I think |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 13, 2024 8:46:15 GMT
Oh! the simple mindedness ^^^ Oh the irony 2 |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 13, 2024 8:48:57 GMT
Indeed. She may return to front line politics whereas Johnson spaffed his career by being mayor ofLondon for 8 years and Prime minister for 3 years . Yeah, but he's done now. Couldn't win votes from hungry dogs of he had a lamb chop tied to him. All The Best “All political lives, unless they are cut off in midstream at a happy juncture, end in failure, because that is the nature of politics and of human affairs.” Enoch Powell. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2024 10:27:14 GMT
There does seem to be a bit of a mood change with this as Starmer would not say he supports her 100% for some reason. Now she's saying she will go if she's "found guilty". Surely she already knows whether she is guilty. As long as you don't hold me to it, I predict she'll make a decision to resign as deputy leader this weekend.  |
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Post by witchfinder on Apr 13, 2024 10:30:51 GMT
 Lets get some perspective on this, in the worst possible scenario Angela Raynor could owe around fifteen hundred quid in CGT, but listening to what Labour Party officals are saying ( after seeing her legal advice ), I reckon she will owe nothing, but time will tell. This then takes us onto the other possible offence, of giving false information to the electoral records, which would amount to her POSSIBLY voting in a ward or constituency that she did not live in, but it is not fraudulant because unlike REAL electoral fraud, no attempt is made here to vote more than once. Put into persepective, the possible false information to the electoral registar is trivial, and IF indeed it is proved that she failed to pay CGT to the tune of around fifteen hundred quid, it is again pityfull when compared to the NUMEROUS cases of tax avoidance cases amongst Tory MPs. As for Jill Mortimer, the soon to be gone Tory MP for Hartlepool, in a different league to Angela Raynor, Mrs Mortimer has money stashed away in the Cayman Islands, which immediately raises questions. The wealthy MP for Harlepool lives in leafy, prosperous, Tory North Yorkshire, not sure the precise distance from Harlepool, but around 35 miles. |
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Post by ratcliff on Apr 13, 2024 10:53:36 GMT
The electoral roll stuff has already timed out, that is why she is so confident of the police investigation going nowhere. Her main problem is going to be the right to buy discount, capital gains tax, undeclared income if she was charging her brother rent, council tax benefit and other benefits she might have been claiming as a single person. Tax matters are confidential so I doubt we will find out the outcome of any HMRC investigation. I highly doubt she will end up quitting over this, her problem will be that mud sticks, and this will do just enough reputational damage to stop her from back stabbing Starmer to become PM. Zahawi having settled his tax enquiry was made public , the ginger growler was very vocal at the time |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 13, 2024 10:56:06 GMT
View AttachmentLets get some perspective on this, in the worst possible scenario Angela Raynor could owe around fifteen hundred quid in CGT, but listening to what Labour Party officals are saying ( after seeing her legal advice ), I reckon she will owe nothing, but time will tell. This then takes us onto the other possible offence, of giving false information to the electoral records, which would amount to her POSSIBLY voting in a ward or constituency that she did not live in, but it is not fraudulant because unlike REAL electoral fraud, no attempt is made here to vote more than once. Put into persepective, the possible false information to the electoral registar is trivial, and IF indeed it is proved that she failed to pay CGT to the tune of around fifteen hundred quid, it is again pityfull when compared to the NUMEROUS cases of tax avoidance cases amongst Tory MPs. As for Jill Mortimer, the soon to be gone Tory MP for Hartlepool, in a different league to Angela Raynor, Mrs Mortimer has money stashed away in the Cayman Islands, which immediately raises questions. The wealthy MP for Harlepool lives in leafy, prosperous, Tory North Yorkshire, not sure the precise distance from Harlepool, but around 35 miles. It isn't about the money, it's the principle of the matter, Mrs Mortimer isn't SCREAMING every day about how she's going to clampdown on tax dodgers, but Angela Rayner is.
The amount of money is immaterial, it doesn't matter if it's £1 or £1 million, it doesn't matter if it's a Council house or a leafy, prosperous house in North Yorkshire, we don't want double standard hypocrites getting in to power by peddling their nonsense about clamping down on tax dodgers, closing loopholes, while Angela Rayner has done just that, and if she gets away with it that make it even worse, she will have to GO.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2024 11:00:45 GMT
All the Lefties who demanded Boris resign over a piece of cake are now saying "Oh come on, it's only one and a half grand"... Well, I would say the number one reason why young people eventually turn away from the Left is the blatant hypocrisy. Those who stick with the Left at a later age are completely untrustworthy. I have no doubt this is why lefties are now corporate rentboys and whores, who engage in social fascism for globalist juntas. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 13, 2024 11:05:15 GMT
Lets get some perspective on this, in the worst possible scenario Angela Raynor could owe around fifteen hundred quid in CGT, but listening to what Labour Party officals are saying ( after seeing her legal advice ), I reckon she will owe nothing, but time will tell. The tax evasion is really neither here nor there - it is a trivial amount, although it is rather hilarious to see Labour politicians evading tax and starving the NHS of funding. What is more important is the absolute hypocrisy of the Labour Party - every time there are the slightest allegations against any other politicians there is a raft of demands to publish tax returns, legal advice etc etc. But when the boot is on the other foot and it is a Labour politician in the frame it's 'look over there a Unicorn'.. |
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Post by ratcliff on Apr 13, 2024 11:06:22 GMT
View AttachmentLets get some perspective on this, in the worst possible scenario Angela Raynor could owe around fifteen hundred quid in CGT, but listening to what Labour Party officals are saying ( after seeing her legal advice ), I reckon she will owe nothing, but time will tell. This then takes us onto the other possible offence, of giving false information to the electoral records, which would amount to her POSSIBLY voting in a ward or constituency that she did not live in, but it is not fraudulant because unlike REAL electoral fraud, no attempt is made here to vote more than once. Put into persepective, the possible false information to the electoral registar is trivial, and IF indeed it is proved that she failed to pay CGT to the tune of around fifteen hundred quid, it is again pityfull when compared to the NUMEROUS cases of tax avoidance cases amongst Tory MPs. As for Jill Mortimer, the soon to be gone Tory MP for Hartlepool, in a different league to Angela Raynor, Mrs Mortimer has money stashed away in the Cayman Islands, which immediately raises questions. The wealthy MP for Harlepool lives in leafy, prosperous, Tory North Yorkshire, not sure the precise distance from Harlepool, but around 35 miles. Typical lefty excuses , if she was on the fiddle , evading tax , doesn't matter , it's peanuts In which case why didn't she properly declare the house sale in the first place? It's not complex law , a married couple (unless legally separated) may not claim cgt relief on more than one property between them . Don't recall Jill Mortimer being an alleged tax evader and Zahawi's case (which he settled , and had to resign) didn't involve tax evasion , it involved his challenge to a disputed HMRC share transfer valuation (which he subsequently lost and paid back tax , interest and standard penalty) |
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Post by witchfinder on Apr 13, 2024 11:20:23 GMT
Lets get some perspective on this, in the worst possible scenario Angela Raynor could owe around fifteen hundred quid in CGT, but listening to what Labour Party officals are saying ( after seeing her legal advice ), I reckon she will owe nothing, but time will tell. The tax evasion is really neither here nor there - it is a trivial amount, although it is rather hilarious to see Labour politicians evading tax and starving the NHS of funding. What is more important is the absolute hypocrisy of the Labour Party - every time there are the slightest allegations against any other politicians there is a raft of demands to publish tax returns, legal advice etc etc. But when the boot is on the other foot and it is a Labour politician in the frame it's 'look over there a Unicorn'.. Dont forget, as of this precise time Angela Raynor has not been found guilty of tax evasion, anf IF indeed it is eventually found that she is not guilty of tax evasion, that would then only leave the trivial offence of been registered on the electoral roll at an address she did not live at. I personally have sold property which I did not live in, and made a profit, and I paid no CGT, and I broke no rules, just letting you know of what the outcome might be. |
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