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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 11, 2024 17:56:38 GMT
It has nothing to do with immature schoolyard language FFS
This is about a prominent deputy leader of the opposition party trying to defraud the tax system, and making out she did not live with her husband they lived in separate houses for 5 years while her husband lived with her brother ........... hahahahah surely even you wouldn't believe that total bullshit.
Speculation and opinion without any evidence ^ --------------------------------------------------------- And as for yesterdays so called "protest by members of the public" in the market town of Yarm "On a campaign event today in Teesside, the deputy Labour leader was met by three men in high-vis jackets, one of whom was later identified as local Tory councillor John Coulson who took part in the protest alongside other Conservative councillors" (The Spectator) So all her ex-neighbours have come forward and said she most definitely lived at the address with her husband, are you going to tell us the Tories put them up to saying that, or they are all liars? |
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Post by patman post on Apr 11, 2024 17:59:45 GMT
Except that its NOT hanging over them is it ? The matter has been dealt with, there were TWO police investigations which both came to the same conclusion, the case is closed, finished, history, and for most people .. forgotten about. NO the matter has not been dealt with, because Ange and Keir say the matter is dealt with, that doesn't mean it is, it's just wishful thinking on their part. As the story's been raised again by readers of the paper that accused high court judges of being enemies of the people, I doubt the claim has any real legs, crossed or uncrossed... |
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Post by patman post on Apr 11, 2024 18:01:48 GMT
But if we were to believe the allegations, we know there were between 15 and 30 people there and the whole bash cost £200. That's peanuts for 30 people, and maybe a snack and a beer for 15. Some lavish party!
Christ, when sandwiches and drinks are ordered for an office working lunch, we budget up to £25 a head...
There were no need of the takeouts pat. The hotel that starmer and the other labour luvvies were using shot that bullshit down in flames Were they meeting in a/the hotel...? |
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Post by witchfinder on Apr 11, 2024 18:02:16 GMT
Speculation and opinion without any evidence ^ --------------------------------------------------------- And as for yesterdays so called "protest by members of the public" in the market town of Yarm "On a campaign event today in Teesside, the deputy Labour leader was met by three men in high-vis jackets, one of whom was later identified as local Tory councillor John Coulson who took part in the protest alongside other Conservative councillors" (The Spectator) So all her ex-neighbours have come forward and said she most definitely lived at the address with her husband, are you going to tell us the Tories put them up to saying that, or they are all liars? Angela Raynor has repeated the same line ... that she sought legal advice at the time, and also recently, and that she is satisfied that she has done nothing wrong. She has also stated that if either the police or HMRC wish to see the legal advice she was given, she would be happy to present it to them. To repeat the line once again, unless or until a person is proved guilty, that person is innocent. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 11, 2024 18:03:58 GMT
You have no idea who was present at Starmers beer & curry bash, or how much beer they drank. Am I a liar?.. But if we were to believe the allegations, we know there were between 15 and 30 people there and the whole bash cost £200. That's peanuts for 30 people, and maybe a snack and a beer for 15. Some lavish party!
Christ, when sandwiches and drinks are ordered for an office working lunch, we budget up to £25 a head...
I agree, in the scheme of things this is absolutely bloody ridiculous. But is it any more ridiculous than Starmer and Rayner and other front bench Labour politicians demanding that the prime minister must resign for eating cake during lockdown?.. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 11, 2024 18:05:32 GMT
So all her ex-neighbours have come forward and said she most definitely lived at the address with her husband, are you going to tell us the Tories put them up to saying that, or they are all liars? Angela Raynor has repeated the same line ... that she sought legal advice at the time, and also recently, and that she is satisfied that she has done nothing wrong. She has also stated that if either the police or HMRC wish to see the legal advice she was given, she would be happy to present it to them. To repeat the line once again, unless or until a person is proved guilty, that person is innocent. There's a world of difference between innocent and not guilty. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 11, 2024 18:10:02 GMT
So all her ex-neighbours have come forward and said she most definitely lived at the address with her husband, are you going to tell us the Tories put them up to saying that, or they are all liars? Angela Raynor has repeated the same line ... that she sought legal advice at the time, and also recently, and that she is satisfied that she has done nothing wrong. She has also stated that if either the police or HMRC wish to see the legal advice she was given, she would be happy to present it to them. To repeat the line once again, unless or until a person is proved guilty, that person is innocent. If I was in her shoes, and innocent of any wrong doing, I would have cleared this matter up straight away, provided evidence of no wrong doing, instead she is choosing to drag herself and the Labour party in to a 'did she, didn't she' fiasco ........ all she has to do is come clean and lets move on ... nothing to see here.
Why do you think she isn't doing that?
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Post by patman post on Apr 11, 2024 18:10:45 GMT
Speculation and opinion without any evidence ^ --------------------------------------------------------- And as for yesterdays so called "protest by members of the public" in the market town of Yarm "On a campaign event today in Teesside, the deputy Labour leader was met by three men in high-vis jackets, one of whom was later identified as local Tory councillor John Coulson who took part in the protest alongside other Conservative councillors" (The Spectator) So all her ex-neighbours have come forward and said she most definitely lived at the address with her husband, are you going to tell us the Tories put them up to saying that, or they are all liars? If true, then one or more of the Electoral Commission, HMRC, and the Police are likely to be interested.
Until then, it remains less relevant than the lies to parliament and the Queen, law breaking, and utter mismanagement of the UK's borders and the economy during the Tory administrations following — and possibly including — Theresa May... |
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Post by patman post on Apr 11, 2024 18:14:28 GMT
But if we were to believe the allegations, we know there were between 15 and 30 people there and the whole bash cost £200. That's peanuts for 30 people, and maybe a snack and a beer for 15. Some lavish party!
Christ, when sandwiches and drinks are ordered for an office working lunch, we budget up to £25 a head...
I agree, in the scheme of things this is absolutely bloody ridiculous. But is it any more ridiculous than Starmer and Rayner and other front bench Labour politicians demanding that the prime minister must resign for eating cake during lockdown?.. But it wasn't one piece of cake consumed during an illegal gathering, but multiple infringements of the law against gatherings by — and this is the priceless bit — by those who made the law... |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 11, 2024 18:18:57 GMT
There were no need of the takeouts pat. The hotel that starmer and the other labour luvvies were using shot that bullshit down in flames Were they meeting in a/the hotel...? Nope they broke lockdown rules and ened up at a private address......He had already stated that they would return to the hotel to be fed and watered and tried to makeout the hotel was NOT serving meals when the shit hit the fan...The arsehole is nohing more than a blatant liar..
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Post by jonksy on Apr 11, 2024 18:22:10 GMT
Smarmers ‘beergate’ event was planned, leaked memo shows Internal planning document claims that the Labour leader’s lockdown get-together was arranged in advance....
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Post by jonksy on Apr 11, 2024 18:24:42 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 11, 2024 18:27:02 GMT
I agree, in the scheme of things this is absolutely bloody ridiculous. But is it any more ridiculous than Starmer and Rayner and other front bench Labour politicians demanding that the prime minister must resign for eating cake during lockdown?.. But it wasn't one piece of cake consumed during an illegal gathering, but multiple infringements of the law against gatherings by — and this is the priceless bit — by those who made the law... Personally, I find it absolutely mind boggling that people who for months demanded the prime minister should resign, were also of the opinion that beer & curry for up to 30 people during lockdown was fine. Double standards? No, it's breath taking hypocrisy. I absolutely guarantee, if Boris had been caught with up to 30 other people all scoffing beer & curry during lockdown, the very first people to demand he should resign would have been Starmer and Rayner. And you know it. |
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Post by patman post on Apr 11, 2024 18:29:30 GMT
Wasn't the private address the candidate's office?
Why wouldn't a working team have planned breaks?
Having a schedule and knowing where people can be contacted is all part of an efficient organising staff's job...
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Post by jonksy on Apr 11, 2024 18:29:31 GMT
But it wasn't one piece of cake consumed during an illegal gathering, but multiple infringements of the law against gatherings by — and this is the priceless bit — by those who made the law... Personally, I find it absolutely mind boggling that people who for months demanded the prime minister should resign, were also of the opinion that beer & curry for up to 30 people during lockdown was fine. Double standards? No, it's breath taking hypocrisy. I absolutely guarantee, if Boris had been caught with up to 30 other people all scoffing beer & curry during lockdown, the very first people to demand he should resign would have been Starmer and Rayner. And you know it. Of course he knows it Red the lefties just cannot accept their own virtual signalling hipocrisy... |
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