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Post by Orac on Feb 24, 2024 10:23:43 GMT
So his parents would have been let into the UK under blairs watch then lefty old ban if that is the case.. So, you're admitting to calling black people "imports" regardless of whether they are immigrants or not, but you object to people labelling you as racist. If someone is born here they are British, regardless of their colour. You are getting a bit pedantic here. While they may not literally be an immigrant themselves, it's almost certain their family arrived from abroad relatively recently |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 24, 2024 10:25:49 GMT
So his parents would have been let into the UK under blairs watch then lefty old ban if that is the case.. So, you're admitting to calling black people "imports" regardless of whether they are immigrants or not, but you object to people labelling you as racist. If someone is born here they are British, regardless of their colour. You know full well Andy that I am referring to illegals...Stop trying to deal the racist card FFS... |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 24, 2024 10:27:43 GMT
So, you're admitting to calling black people "imports" regardless of whether they are immigrants or not, but you object to people labelling you as racist. If someone is born here they are British, regardless of their colour. You are getting a bit pedantic here. While they may not literally be an immigrant themselves, it's almost certain their family arrived from abroad relatively recently Pedantry is all they have left... |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 24, 2024 10:33:15 GMT
So his parents would have been let into the UK under blairs watch then lefty old ban if that is the case.. So, you're admitting to calling black people "imports" regardless of whether they are immigrants or not, but you object to people labelling you as racist. If someone is born here they are British, regardless of their colour. If a white person lives in Africa, I think it's safe to say the locals will call them white imports, they know they were not born and native to Africa, so why can't we say the same of black people living in a white country? |
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Post by Orac on Feb 24, 2024 10:39:46 GMT
So, you're admitting to calling black people "imports" regardless of whether they are immigrants or not, but you object to people labelling you as racist. If someone is born here they are British, regardless of their colour. If a white person lives in Africa, I think it's safe to say the locals will call them white imports, they know they were not born and native to Africa, so why can't we say the same of black people living in a white country? it's noticeable that, while black people are absolutely allowed to use common sense to make distinctions between themselves and others, white people (for some reason) aren't. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2024 10:47:22 GMT
Because the Tories are lost, and there's seemingly little hope of the Conservatives winning the general election, the Right of politics is splintering and divided, the Conservative Party is now the subject of a Tug Of War between the Centre Right and the new breed of Rabble Rousers ( Populists ). The hardline Right ( populists ) have largely abandoned REAL politics, and are more and more resorting to vile, disgusting Rabble Rousing, culture wars, stirring up hatred and divisions in order to garner votes. People such as Suella Braverman and Lee Anderson, and many of their ilk are copying the very same tactics as used by supporters of the far Right in Germany in the 1930s. "All the problems with our society stem from one particular faith or religion" The right wing Tory MP Lee Anderson is in trouble this morning after it was revealed that he stated on GB News that "London is controlled by Islamists, after Sadiq Khan, the first Muslim Mayor of London, gave control of the city to Islamists". An outrageous and wholly untrue statement, for which Rishi Sunak MUST remove the Tory whip and kick him out of the party TODAY not Tomorrow. I have counted possibly THREE Muslim London Assembly Members of the 25, meaning that something like 90% of members ARE NOT Muslims, a percentage by the way which closely reflects Londons Muslim population. Lefties have invented an imaginary political movement called ‘ far right’, hard right ‘ , extreme right ‘ and throw in a mention of 1930s Germany when they mention them . Who are these monsters ? People who don’t agree with lefties . One of the lies that lefties say about these imaginary monsters is that they claim “ All the problems with our society stem from one particular faith or religion". I suspect lefties will ratchet up this and other lies ,Everytime Labour politicians get into trouble. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 24, 2024 10:47:31 GMT
If a white person lives in Africa, I think it's safe to say the locals will call them white imports, they know they were not born and native to Africa, so why can't we say the same of black people living in a white country? it's noticeable that, while black people are absolutely allowed to use common sense to make distinctions between themselves and others, white people (for some reason) aren't. It's getting that ridiculous in this country that the police can't even describe a criminal suspect as 'black' because it's deemed racist, we assume they are non-white because of the lack of description, I bet white criminals in Africa are described exactly as that 'white' suspect. |
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Post by witchfinder on Feb 24, 2024 10:48:27 GMT
The racists do get an awfull lot of facts wrong
Almost all of the Caribbean people who came to this country in The Windrush era 1946 - 1960 were British people when they set off, they were born British people in British overseas territories.
After 1960, the MAJORITY of Caribbeans ( black people ) who arrived here to live and work were born as British people.
It just goes to show that the real problem that these people have is not their ridiculous percieved alteration of British culture, its actually pure racism and bigotry based on the one fact that they are different.
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Post by Orac on Feb 24, 2024 10:50:51 GMT
it's noticeable that, while black people are absolutely allowed to use common sense to make distinctions between themselves and others, white people (for some reason) aren't. It's getting that ridiculous in this country that the police can't even describe a criminal suspect as 'black' because it's deemed racist, we assume they are non-white because of the lack of description, I bet white criminals in Africa are described exactly as that 'white' suspect. You can end up with ludicrous, contradictory situations - say, where black people are absolutely allowed to talk about white people (or 'whiteness') as a generality , but white people aren't allowed to talk about black people or 'blackness' - or in which black people can claim both sameness and separateness - resorting to one or the other when it suits them. |
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Post by Orac on Feb 24, 2024 10:52:48 GMT
After 1960, the MAJORITY of Caribbeans ( black people ) who arrived Then they aren't from here, they are from the Caribbean. |
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Post by wapentake on Feb 24, 2024 10:58:38 GMT
Because the Tories are lost, and there's seemingly little hope of the Conservatives winning the general election, the Right of politics is splintering and divided, the Conservative Party is now the subject of a Tug Of War between the Centre Right and the new breed of Rabble Rousers ( Populists ). The hardline Right ( populists ) have largely abandoned REAL politics, and are more and more resorting to vile, disgusting Rabble Rousing, culture wars, stirring up hatred and divisions in order to garner votes. People such as Suella Braverman and Lee Anderson, and many of their ilk are copying the very same tactics as used by supporters of the far Right in Germany in the 1930s. "All the problems with our society stem from one particular faith or religion"The right wing Tory MP Lee Anderson is in trouble this morning after it was revealed that he stated on GB News that "London is controlled by Islamists, after Sadiq Khan, the first Muslim Mayor of London, gave control of the city to Islamists". An outrageous and wholly untrue statement, for which Rishi Sunak MUST remove the Tory whip and kick him out of the party TODAY not Tomorrow. I have counted possibly THREE Muslim London Assembly Members of the 25, meaning that something like 90% of members ARE NOT Muslims, a percentage by the way which closely reflects Londons Muslim population. Many but not all the problems of our society are down to the politicians of all the party’s who decided that the best way to remain in power was to occupy the centre and so the electorate have little choice because they know whoever they vote for things will essentially remain the same. Do you have any thoughts why increasingly the electorate turnout is down year after year and the government are in power as a minority,do you think that the people of what were called the red wall constituencies are all populist and racists or ordinary but frustrated people? Do you also think Westminster is there to govern in a way they think is best for us or for the wishes of the majority. Do you think there is a problem with the influx of people with little control and also do you believe it racist to say so? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 24, 2024 11:02:16 GMT
It's getting that ridiculous in this country that the police can't even describe a criminal suspect as 'black' because it's deemed racist, we assume they are non-white because of the lack of description, I bet white criminals in Africa are described exactly as that 'white' suspect. You can end up with ludicrous, contradictory situations - say, where black people are absolutely allowed to talk about white people (or 'whiteness') as a generality , but white people aren't allowed to talk about black people or 'blackness' - or in which black people can claim both sameness and separateness - resorting to one or the other when it suits them. All this lefty nonsense has caused deeper segregation, we are made to feel guilty for being 'white privileged' and black people are made to feel like 'victims', all fueled by the lefty agenda, Labour need to keep this narrative alive and kicking, because this is how they get votes, Labour will stop this happening, Labour is on your side.
They have completely brainwashed the minorities in to this illusion of victimhood, but the Labour Muslim voters have shown Labour just how all this manipulative tactic can backfire.
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Post by witchfinder on Feb 24, 2024 11:04:34 GMT
After 1960, the MAJORITY of Caribbeans ( black people ) who arrived Then they aren't from here, they are from the Caribbean. The answer of an Ignoramous Black people who were born in St Lucia, Jamaica, Barbados were born as British people under the Union Flag, their language was English, they sang "God Save The King" ( or Queen ), many went to Church, and many fought for this country in two World Wars. Your answer is an outstanding example of open Bigotry, perhaps it ought to be framed and put on a wall as an example of the worst side of British attitudes. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 24, 2024 11:05:17 GMT
it's noticeable that, while black people are absolutely allowed to use common sense to make distinctions between themselves and others, white people (for some reason) aren't. It's getting that ridiculous in this country that the police can't even describe a criminal suspect as 'black' because it's deemed racist, we assume they are non-white because of the lack of description, I bet white criminals in Africa are described exactly as that 'white' suspect. Where do you get that rubbish from crime records are distinctly across racial lines has them has not described any race is a very small minority Could' be a mixture of race including white British. I wouldn't like to take a uneducated guess |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2024 11:10:14 GMT
The racists do get an awfull lot of facts wrong Almost all of the Caribbean people who came to this country in The Windrush era 1946 - 1960 were British people when they set off, they were born British people in British overseas territories. After 1960, the MAJORITY of Caribbeans ( black people ) who arrived here to live and work were born as British people. It just goes to show that the real problem that these people have is not their ridiculous percieved alteration of British culture, its actually pure racism and bigotry based on the one fact that they are different. If you deny British culture then you deny any culture . British people reacted to an influx of people who were unlike them in the same way that any group of people would react . Lefties like to demonise people who are not like them too. You especially . |
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