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Post by Totheleft on Feb 24, 2024 14:10:12 GMT
...those institutions such as The Metropolitan Police were forced to act. and please dont give us some Bull Shit about the police employed the best people for the job, because thats simply not true, its rubbish. Institutions like the Metropolitan Police were racist, and they purposely employed an almost white only police force. If Britain and its people had had a different attitude to OUR people from the Caribbean who came here, then perhaps a lot of the problems we have had with society would never have occured. Meanwhile, back in the real world... Don't know what that got to do with what witchey was saying the police didn't reflect the population of Caribbean people . He didn't say they Didn't employ Caribbean people . So your picture isn't of the real world.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 24, 2024 14:18:57 GMT
Like like most places in the world immigration is attractive to wealthy Sure. If faced with the choice between living in a broken, dysfunctional society run by your own people or moving to a wealthy, functioning society run by someone else, many will opt for the latter. Of course, when these people arrive and are settled, they can use the liberties afforded them by this functioning society to start whining about how your people don't run everything and that things are not done in the same way as they are back in your homeland. I don't think many say that except Islamist and many young Muslims who never experienced it in there Country. Not many older muslums who experience it hardly Complain
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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2024 14:20:37 GMT
Black people have been embracing victimhood for 50 years or more . It’s a habit now . Now look at the state of Jamaica and the African countries of thier ‘ roots’ . They are better off here than in the land where they pretend to be victims
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Post by patman post on Feb 24, 2024 14:27:45 GMT
Yet more deviation from fact and reality
The fact is that post war, 1946 onwards, black immigrants faced utterly appaling and widespread discrimination in every aspect of life, from jobs and housing, in the streets and bars, and in schools and factories.
It has taken over 70 years to get to where we now are, a much better place, but black people have had to fight and struggle to get here, aided by successive governments, who first of all made discrimination illegal with several Race Relations Acts of Parliament.
The white working class were some of the worst when it came to discrimination and bigotry, and there can be found MANY examples in 20th century history of workers and Trade Unions openly supporting such things as "Colour bars", probably the most famous resulted in The Bristol Bus Boycott.
The Labour Party in recent history has sought ways to make society more equal, where merit should be the only consideration. However, the considerable disparity in opportunities for minorities has called for measures to rid society of those disparities.
When Public Inquiries in the 1980s asked why many areas of society, and many institutions were overwhelmingly white, and did not reflect the local or national population, those institutions such as The Metropolitan Police were forced to act.
and please dont give us some Bull Shit about the police employed the best people for the job, because thats simply not true, its rubbish. Institutions like the Metropolitan Police were racist, and they purposely employed an almost white only police force.
If Britain and its people had had a different attitude to OUR people from the Caribbean who came here, then perhaps a lot of the problems we have had with society would never have occured. Gosh you make it sound just awful, a veritable hell-on-earth.
It does make you wonder why they came in such great numbers, and even more so why they stayed when the terrible truth became apparent. Not only were the natives openly hostile (and apparently many still are) but the streets weren't even paved with gold.
And yet they came, in their millions, and still are coming.
One of life's eternal mysteries.
Not really so much of a mystery.
Those with family connections like to come.
Others, like potential asylum seekers and illegal immigrants, read and hear reports of complaints in news and social media (and on forums like Ukpoliticsdebate) about how well immigrants are treated. According to what they hear, every immigrant will get 4-star hotel accommodation, free medical care, clothing and food allowances, free help from hoards of lawyers queuing up to get them residence and work visas, etc, etc, etc.
It's possible that Red Rackham's rantings alone — about how well illegal immigrants are treated — could be responsible for encouraging several hundred to land on the Kent coast over the years...
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 24, 2024 14:34:56 GMT
Black people have been embracing victimhood for 50 years or more . It’s a habit now . Now look at the state of Jamaica and the African countries of thier ‘ roots’ . They are better off here than in the land where they pretend to be victims Yes it is but that doesn't mean they should put up with racism or inequity
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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2024 14:39:04 GMT
Black people have been embracing victimhood for 50 years or more . It’s a habit now . Now look at the state of Jamaica and the African countries of thier ‘ roots’ . They are better off here than in the land where they pretend to be victims Yes it is but that doesn't mean they should put up with racism or inequity There is no discernible racism in this country and there hasnt been for decades …except for white people. Black people blame their failures on white people and loony lefties like you lap it up . White people warn of cultures clashes when there is mass immigration from other cultures and loony lefties like you get triggered. The UK offers the same opportunities to black and white people.
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Post by witchfinder on Feb 24, 2024 14:39:07 GMT
Yes, and a Londoner could say that a person from Aberdeen is from somewhere else, and a Cornishman could say that someone from Belfast is from somewhere else, and why would it matter. ? It wouldn't matter unless you had some kind of hysterical fixation about this group not identifying as themselves But people from the Caribbean did not have any kind of "hysterical fixation" they simply wanted to live their life WITHOUT the prejudice which was directed at them.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2024 14:51:14 GMT
It wouldn't matter unless you had some kind of hysterical fixation about this group not identifying as themselves But people from the Caribbean did not have any kind of "hysterical fixation" they simply wanted to live their life WITHOUT the prejudice which was directed at them. They never will if they insist on being victims . This all happened in the mid 20th century . Grow up and embrace the opportunities. No one forces the black community to do anything they don’t want to do.
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 24, 2024 14:56:45 GMT
It wouldn't matter unless you had some kind of hysterical fixation about this group not identifying as themselves But people from the Caribbean did not have any kind of "hysterical fixation" they simply wanted to live their life WITHOUT the prejudice which was directed at them. Well I wouldn't want to live any where that I thought I wasn't welcomed, considering this is such a racist awful place to live, none of them want to go back to where they originate from, and tens of thousands are queuing up to jump in dinghies to get here, so you can only conclude that it's all a load of made up rubbish by the lefties, creating something that isn't there, what else are we to think?
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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2024 15:01:36 GMT
The truth is that this country is a very tolerant place . A female polish woman who married an Indian guy said they in Poland she was harangued in the streets wheras here the most she got was an occasional unapproving look . Self hating lefties , black peoples who feed off cries of racism and indoctrinated ethnic people stoke a fire of their own ignorance and racism . There is no discernible racism here.
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Post by witchfinder on Feb 24, 2024 15:10:27 GMT
But people from the Caribbean did not have any kind of "hysterical fixation" they simply wanted to live their life WITHOUT the prejudice which was directed at them. They never will if they insist on being victims . This all happened in the mid 20th century . Grow up and embrace the opportunities. No one forces the black community to do anything they don’t want to do. Black people do not "insist" on been victims, THEY WERE Victims As for this all happening between the late 1940s and 1970s, yes the WORST of the racism and discrimination took place in that period, but it carried on well into the 1990s and to a degree is still there. In 1998 there was still huge disparity between our Asian and black population, and the numbers represented as a percentage in top jobs, and in the police forces etc. In 1998 Metropolitan police officers were 3% Asian and black, yet the Asian and black population of London was 25% Official reports initiated by governments concluded there were serious issues, the MacPherson Report concluded that the Metropolitan Police were "Institutionally Racist", and this charge has been repeated several times since. I realise of course that some posters will deny these official findings, just as they deny that prejudice and racism ever existed, and just as they ignore or push back at facts and figures. But history tells us that Britain WAS not a very nice place for black people who came here to live and work.
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 24, 2024 15:10:58 GMT
It's obvious at some football games abroad, the crowd are blatantly racist, doing monkey gestures and noises, their country don't even turn a hair, it's reported to FIFA and nothing is done, in UK football however the crowd only have to BOOOOO a black player and the police are hunting them down, it's racist, you can't even criticise them if they miss penalty shoot outs FFS, it's racist, no wonder they are all heading to the UK it's the only country in the World that brings black people up and above it's own people.
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Post by witchfinder on Feb 24, 2024 15:16:19 GMT
It's obvious at some football games abroad, the crowd are blatantly racist, doing monkey gestures and noises, their country don't even turn a hair, it's reported to FIFA and nothing is done, in UK football however the crowd only have to BOOOOO a black player and the police are hunting them down, it's racist, you can't even criticise them if they miss penalty shoot outs FFS, it's racist, no wonder they are all heading to the UK it's the only country in the World that brings black people up and above it's own people. Bullshit Racism on British football terraces and in grounds was a serious problem, the monkey chants and gestures were commonplace in this country, as were other forms of racism such as throwing Bananas onto the pitch. The police cannot pursue anyone for alleged racism base solely upon the fact that a player was booed, you should grow up and get some common sense
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2024 15:21:12 GMT
It's obvious at some football games abroad, the crowd are blatantly racist, doing monkey gestures and noises, their country don't even turn a hair, it's reported to FIFA and nothing is done, in UK football however the crowd only have to BOOOOO a black player and the police are hunting them down, it's racist, you can't even criticise them if they miss penalty shoot outs FFS, it's racist, no wonder they are all heading to the UK it's the only country in the World that brings black people up and above it's own people. Bullshit Racism on British football terraces and in grounds was a serious problem, the monkey chants and gestures were commonplace in this country, as were other forms of racism such as throwing Bananas onto the pitch. The police cannot pursue anyone for alleged racism base solely upon the fact that a player was booed, you should grow up and get some common sense No they're weren't, but I can see why the hate-filled bigots need to believe it.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 24, 2024 15:22:12 GMT
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