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Post by Totheleft on Feb 22, 2024 7:48:29 GMT
Yes he should resign, and if it is true about Starmer then so should he. We cannot have politicians bowing down to mobs. If Labour MPs are so scared of certain parts of their supporters, then they need to call them out and distance themselves from them! BTW he is my MP, and it pisses me off because I do not get a vote at the GE. The public need to see blood and the instigator of this would appear to be the kneeling , mob appeasing coward Starmer. Hoyle is the fall guy but he could have said no but showed a weakness . They should both be marched from the building . Why what had starmer done but put forward another amendments it's is Democratic right.are you against that
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 22, 2024 7:51:54 GMT
Yes he should resign, and if it is true about Starmer then so should he. We cannot have politicians bowing down to mobs. If Labour MPs are so scared of certain parts of their supporters, then they need to call them out and distance themselves from them! BTW he is my MP, and it pisses me off because I do not get a vot9 e at the GE. What mob would that be the mob that lead to Camron to call a referemodem?
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 22, 2024 8:01:20 GMT
Yes he should resign, and if it is true about Starmer then so should he. We cannot have politicians bowing down to mobs. If Labour MPs are so scared of certain parts of their supporters, then they need to call them out and distance themselves from them! BTW he is my MP, and it pisses me off because I do not get a vote at the GE. Snap. Well not quite. George Thomas in my case for one election. The people of Buckingham pretty largely felt the same about the last incumbent. The more i read about this, the more it seems a cold and calculated attempt to derail criticism of the regieme.
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Post by sheepy on Feb 22, 2024 8:14:40 GMT
Yes he should resign, and if it is true about Starmer then so should he. We cannot have politicians bowing down to mobs. If Labour MPs are so scared of certain parts of their supporters, then they need to call them out and distance themselves from them! BTW he is my MP, and it pisses me off because I do not get a vot9 e at the GE. What mob would that be the mob that lead to Camron to call a referemodem? A bit of advice, when your mental health is suffering it is best taking a rest and put your feet up.
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Post by Dogburger on Feb 22, 2024 8:19:22 GMT
The public need to see blood and the instigator of this would appear to be the kneeling , mob appeasing coward Starmer. Hoyle is the fall guy but he could have said no but showed a weakness . They should both be marched from the building . Why what had starmer done but put forward another amendments it's is Democratic right.are you against that Its not that he put forward an amendment it was that he put pressure on the speaker to put it to the house .
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Post by sheepy on Feb 22, 2024 8:22:39 GMT
Why what had starmer done but put forward another amendments it's is Democratic right.are you against that Its not that he put forward an amendment it was that he put pressure on the speaker to put it to the house . Feelings are running at danger level high, I guess Hoyle could see that.
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 22, 2024 8:25:12 GMT
The public need to see blood and the instigator of this would appear to be the kneeling , mob appeasing coward Starmer. Hoyle is the fall guy but he could have said no but showed a weakness . They should both be marched from the building . Why what had starmer done but put forward another amendments it's is Democratic right.are you against that even you should be able to comprehend, just by reading the many critical factual accounts of yesterday, the problem But to spell it out for you: Parliament, not the government, the institution itself, decrees that from time to time a particular opposition party, and on other set occasions, individual members who are chosen by ballot, are presented with the opportunity to place before the house a motion for debate and vote. That the government or other opposition groups may not wish to have that debate is neither relevant nor should it ever be. This is how the system has worked since Charles the Second. The process set down is that the debate proceeds between the person or party allocated the right to bring their matter to the house, and their brittanic majesty’s government. While other opposition members may be called by the speaker to voice their view, the business under debate is that placed before the house by the party or member given leave to bring it, and the government Yesterday the Speaker of the House whose real job is to protect the elected members of all sides from the wrath of the King chose to break with this protocol and chose instead of allowing the SNP business to be placed before the house, chose instead to hear a different item of business argued by Labour and Tory. The SNP motion was ignored. The decision to breach this protocol was Hoyle’s to make. It is the Speaker’s job to declare the order of business and to call those who he sees wish to make contributions. It is he who should rightly face the wrath not of MP’s, not even of parties, but of Parliament as an institution and of the King too, for he has pissed the best part of five hundred years of agreement on how things should be done, agreed at the cost of christ knows how many lives including that of a monarch , up the wall. I don’t actually expect you to understand the gravity of this. Your posting history itself lays testimony to the soundness of my beliefs. But i feel that it is worth setting down, if only for others, the reality of what has gone on here.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 22, 2024 8:31:36 GMT
What mob would that be the mob that lead to Camron to call a referemodem? A bit of advice, when your mental health is suffering it is best taking a rest and put your feet up. Says the middle class snob who says there no working class these days
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Post by sheepy on Feb 22, 2024 8:34:24 GMT
A bit of advice, when your mental health is suffering it is best taking a rest and put your feet up. Says the middle class snob who says there no working class these days Just being helpful, by the way lying won't help either.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 22, 2024 8:36:29 GMT
Why what had starmer done but put forward another amendments it's is Democratic right.are you against that Its not that he put forward an amendment it was that he put pressure on the speaker to put it to the house . What pressure have you any prove of this
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Post by jonksy on Feb 22, 2024 8:38:03 GMT
Says the middle class snob who says there no working class these days Just being helpful, by the way lying won't help either. You are pissing against the wind mate...
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 22, 2024 8:38:57 GMT
Sadly the left don't care about democracy, protocol or even law provided that they get what they want.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 22, 2024 8:40:58 GMT
Says the middle class snob who says there no working class these days Just being helpful, by the way lying won't help either. What lying that say you said there no working class these days or calling you a middle class snob. Any way thanks for the Advice even thou. It's wrong . Are you trying to stop Me posting my opinion on this board ?
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 22, 2024 8:43:09 GMT
Sadly the left don't care about democracy, protocol or even law provided that they get what they want. Oh I see it only had the backing of the labour party.
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Post by Dogburger on Feb 22, 2024 8:46:11 GMT
Its not that he put forward an amendment it was that he put pressure on the speaker to put it to the house . Feelings are running at danger level high, I guess Hoyle could see that. Indeed but it was the SNP's day of opposition . Good form would have been to put forward the SNP amendment ,they could then have got on with the voting and moved on to more pressing issues . What was going on within the labour party was their problem .
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