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Post by Totheleft on Feb 24, 2024 14:02:40 GMT
Yes I told you my distability dosent Effect much what I can read. What dose your disability effect. I tend not to suffer fools gladly . That is a bad disability when you don't understand what fools are I've often asked you what effects your understanding Now you given me your Reason Thank you for that . |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2024 14:08:19 GMT
I tend not to suffer fools gladly . That is a bad disability when you don't understand what fools are I've often asked you what effects your understanding Now you given me your Reason Thank you for that . I know what fools are alright. Ive just replied to one . |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 24, 2024 14:29:12 GMT
That is a bad disability when you don't understand what fools are I've often asked you what effects your understanding Now you given me your Reason Thank you for that . I know what fools are alright. Ive just replied to one . No you don't you said you had autism And one of the disability is not understand things .ue danger It's there lack of understanding that makes them very Vunerable |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2024 14:34:53 GMT
I know what fools are alright. Ive just replied to one . No you don't you said you had autism And one of the disability is not understand things .ue danger It's there lack of understanding that makes them very Vunerable When did I tell you that I had autism ? |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2024 14:43:33 GMT
I know what fools are alright. Ive just replied to one . No you don't you said you had autism And one of the disability is not understand things .ue danger It's there lack of understanding that makes them very Vunerable lol. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 24, 2024 16:23:27 GMT
You seem to have missed the fact that Hoyle has already admitted what he did was wrong kand apologised for that. Yes he missed judge the house feeling about it he didn't have the foresight the cry babies SNP would kick up such a fuss about it. The leader of the Commons said Mr Hoyle was a decent and fortfull man and wasn't going to be involved anymore in the call for him to resign . And that's where the apologie came from not that he broke any rules . You can apologies for making a mistake you know . The only cry babies are the Labour Party who pressured the Speaker into allowing them to hijack the proceedings because they didn't want to allow a free vote. The Speaker accepts he made a mistake in allowing himself to be pressured into helping the Labour Party and that was the "wrong decision" |
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Post by thomas on Feb 24, 2024 16:31:56 GMT
Yes he missed judge the house feeling about it he didn't have the foresight the cry babies SNP would kick up such a fuss about it. The leader of the Commons said Mr Hoyle was a decent and fortfull man and wasn't going to be involved anymore in the call for him to resign . And that's where the apologie came from not that he broke any rules . You can apologies for making a mistake you know . The only cry babies are the Labour Party who pressured the Speaker into allowing them to hijack the proceedings because they didn't want to allow a free vote. The Speaker accepts he made a mistake in allowing himself to be pressured into helping the Labour Party and that was the "wrong decision" Looking ahead I wonder if hoylegate could be a decisive turning point in the run up to the next general election ? Starmer has come out of it arguably looking worse than had he faced a rebellion . He looks corrupt to the core , and of course his stance on Gaza could theoretically lose him much of the left wing vote , as well as the muslim vote labour rely on in many constituencies . I dont think the tories will win the next election , but if enough people are angered with starmer , and the tory snp voters who are fed up with their parties decide to go out and vote to keep labour out , could it be the point where starmer potentially goes from an outright majority to hung parliament? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 24, 2024 16:39:40 GMT
No you don't you said you had autism And one of the disability is not understand things .ue danger It's there lack of understanding that makes them very Vunerable When did I tell you that I had autism ? Not me didn't but some one else |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 24, 2024 16:41:30 GMT
I think Peter Oborne makes a valid point here - what evidence does Starmer actually have that his MP's are being threatened with violence?. If he has evidence has he involved the Police as threats to an MP would be a crime - and if he doesn't have any evidence where did he get this claim from?.
Or was the whole thing invented simply to spare Starmer from embarrassment?
"Remarks by House of Commons speaker and Labour leader Keir Starmer have led to an explosion of Islamophobic hatred against Muslims protesting against Israel's war on Gaza"
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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2024 16:44:11 GMT
When did I tell you that I had autism ? Not me didn't but some one else Iirc I was having a dig at him . You might have missed that as you admit that you can’t read properly. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2024 16:47:16 GMT
I think Peter Oborne makes a valid point here - what evidence does Starmer actually have that his MP's are being threatened with violence?. If he has evidence has he involved the Police as threats to an MP would be a crime - and if he doesn't have any evidence where did he get this claim from?. Or was the whole thing invented simply to spare Starmer from embarrassment? "Remarks by House of Commons speaker and Labour leader Keir Starmer have led to an explosion of Islamophobic hatred against Muslims protesting against Israel's war on Gaza"
This isn’t going away any time soon . |
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Post by thomas on Feb 24, 2024 16:50:36 GMT
I think Peter Oborne makes a valid point here - what evidence does Starmer actually have that his MP's are being threatened with violence?. If he has evidence has he involved the Police as threats to an MP would be a crime - and if he doesn't have any evidence where did he get this claim from?. Or was the whole thing invented simply to spare Starmer from embarrassment? "Remarks by House of Commons speaker and Labour leader Keir Starmer have led to an explosion of Islamophobic hatred against Muslims protesting against Israel's war on Gaza"
Why is Anderson and braverman being accused of peddling division , and racism , while starmer isnt? Starmer is playing with fire , and going to get his hands burnt. |
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Post by patman post on Feb 24, 2024 16:51:40 GMT
I think Peter Oborne makes a valid point here - what evidence does Starmer actually have that his MP's are being threatened with violence?. If he has evidence has he involved the Police as threats to an MP would be a crime - and if he doesn't have any evidence where did he get this claim from?. Or was the whole thing invented simply to spare Starmer from embarrassment? "Remarks by House of Commons speaker and Labour leader Keir Starmer have led to an explosion of Islamophobic hatred against Muslims protesting against Israel's war on Gaza"
I suggest it would be informative if all threatening and abusive messages were published somewhere the public could access them — not necessarily to identify the recipient, but to show the quantity and intensity of any abuse MPs and others in public receive... |
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Post by thomas on Feb 24, 2024 16:55:46 GMT
Islamophobic rhetoric
It's important to explain the context of this latest epidemic of Islamophobic rhetoric. It was unleashed in the wake of Wednesday’s chaotic events at Westminster after the Scottish National Party (SNP) tabled a Commons motion supporting a ceasefire in Gaza.
This motion was acutely embarrassing for Labour leader Keir Starmer, many of whose MPs are deeply opposed to his support for the war.
This helps explain why both the SNP and the Conservatives tore into Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle when he over-ruled the advice of his Commons clerks and defied parliamentary convention to allow a Labour Party amendment which got Starmer off the hook.
Amidst furious calls for him to quit, Speaker Hoyle went on the record to say that when making his controversial decision he had been "very, very concerned" about the safety of MPs, their families and members of their staff.
Yesterday, he came back to the Commons to repeat his alarm: "The details of the things that have been brought to me are absolutely frightening," adding that "if my mistake is looking after members [of parliament], I am guilty".
He made clear that he had been influenced in his decision-making by Starmer’s own concern about threats to his MPs.
The Speaker, however, did not explain exactly who it was that threatened the safety of Labour MPs - but nobody at Westminster was in any doubt who he was referring to: Muslims.
Where is the evidence?
It goes without saying that these are very serious allegations. If it is indeed the case that "radical Islamists" (or any other group) are threatening the lives of MPs and others, then drastic action is needed.
But I issue one word of warning.
No evidence has been provided. No evidence from the Speaker, who set the media storm in motion. Nothing from Starmer, who briefed him.
Or let’s look at the illuminating case of Scottish MSP Paul Sweeney who said that his Glasgow office had been "stormed" by Gaza protests. They were "terrifying and threatening our staff," he added.
Yet, according to the National, "Police Scotland has now confirmed it was not aware of anyone storming in or threatening Labour staff."
The National reports that "Police Scotland also said it was made aware of a 'peaceful protest' that officers attended with no issues because the protesters involved left of their own accord." really good article posted by pacifico asking the pertinent question , where is the evidence to back up all this outrage and claims ? www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/uk-claim-muslims-threatening-democracy-dangerous-evidence-where?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Social_Traffic&utm_content=ap_hmtko57yiu
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 24, 2024 17:03:11 GMT
Yes he missed judge the house feeling about it he didn't have the foresight the cry babies SNP would kick up such a fuss about it. The leader of the Commons said Mr Hoyle was a decent and fortfull man and wasn't going to be involved anymore in the call for him to resign . And that's where the apologie came from not that he broke any rules . You can apologies for making a mistake you know . The only cry babies are the Labour Party who pressured the Speaker into allowing them to hijack the proceedings because they didn't want to allow a free vote. The Speaker accepts he made a mistake in allowing himself to be pressured into helping the Labour Party and that was the "wrong decision" one minute you say he persuaded him know you say he pressured him. There is a vast deference In definition of the 2. Like I said the leader of the commons was a nice caring man and would not pursue a vote of No confidence .that in its self tells you he didn't take much yi persuad him He said he made the decision because he didn't want to receive a phone call saying one of his friends had been killed. Who wouldn't make the same decision about there friends. Has well has the snp being cry babies it seems so are you. And if that the Attitude of so called teal Conservatives God help us.l |
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