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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 21, 2024 19:10:20 GMT
Is anyone watching proceedings in the House? [Freeview 232] Hoyle is making a cringing speech... The speaker has apologised for his previous decision of going against convention and has agreed to meet with all leaders and whips, rather than with just Starmer and the Labour chief whip as he did earlier. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 21, 2024 19:13:02 GMT
Thanks for the confirmation that Labour couldn't block it. 🙄 Basic math. Of course they could if the vote went THEIR way, luckily enough it didn't. How can the vote go their way when they lost a landslide in 2019? Come on man, did you even read the article you shared? It didn't back up what you said. Mostly because what you said was wrong. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 21, 2024 19:14:15 GMT
Wars are smokescreens for far bigger agendas, wars are distractions from the bigger picture, and the way things are going, I think we should all be worried about 'the bigger picture', distracting us is probably a good ploy.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 21, 2024 19:14:53 GMT
EDIT....He sounds like he has been at one of starmers pissups...
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 21, 2024 19:15:46 GMT
Of course they could if the vote went THEIR way, luckily enough it didn't. How can the vote go their way when they lost a landslide in 2019? Come on man, did you even read the article you shared? It didn't back up what you said. Mostly because what you said was wrong. You know he's can't tell what the truth |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 21, 2024 19:17:27 GMT
Of course they could if the vote went THEIR way, luckily enough it didn't. How can the vote go their way when they lost a landslide in 2019? Come on man, did you even read the article you shared? It didn't back up what you said. Mostly because what you said was wrong. What has a landslide victory got to do the the HoC votes, the public don't get to vote on issues like passing migrant bills.
I never shared any article I posed 'fact', if Labour had a majority they would have 'Blocked' the migrant bill, purely to score political points over the Tories, and that's all the lefty immoral toerags are worthy of, dirty underhanded tricks.
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 21, 2024 19:24:06 GMT
This is all rather OTT - there is no prospect of either side in the conflict in the Middle East taking the slightest bit of notice what Parliament says (or doesn't say). It is all performance for certain special interest groups and of no importance to the issues in the UK. Absolutely true. It's been mentioned by one or two commentators today that with all the things British people are currently facing, is this really the best use of parliamentary time. Clearly the answer is no. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 21, 2024 19:24:53 GMT
This is all rather OTT - there is no prospect of either side in the conflict in the Middle East taking the slightest bit of notice what Parliament says (or doesn't say). It is all performance for certain special interest groups and of no importance to the issues in the UK. Yes, but it is instructive of how Labour do business: Throwing principle under the bus when it suits their current narrative.
God help us if they gain power.
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Post by thomas on Feb 21, 2024 19:48:55 GMT
This is all rather OTT - there is no prospect of either side in the conflict in the Middle East taking the slightest bit of notice what Parliament says (or doesn't say). It is all performance for certain special interest groups and of no importance to the issues in the UK. Yes, but it is instructive of how Labour do business: Throwing principle under the bus when it suits their current narrative.
God help us if they gain power.
 Hoyles office after starmers wee visit................. |
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Post by Hutchyns on Feb 21, 2024 19:53:25 GMT
Even if Starmer & Sue Grey threatened Hoyle that he'd be ditched if Labour won the election unless he acquiesced, his actions in overturning parliamentary precedent and procedure to please his Party leader are a step too far. Could/should be a resigning matter judging on the information we've heard so far ... an apology is nowhere near enough.
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 21, 2024 19:58:04 GMT
What has a landslide victory got to do the the HoC votes Blimey, do you really need an explainer on that? 😳 |
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Post by thomas on Feb 21, 2024 20:00:23 GMT
This is all rather OTT - there is no prospect of either side in the conflict in the Middle East taking the slightest bit of notice what Parliament says (or doesn't say). It is all performance for certain special interest groups and of no importance to the issues in the UK. I think you are right in as far as you go , but couldnt the same be said of any foreign policy debate on any issue the uk doesn't have much leverage on ? It still doesn't stop debates going ahead. I think this shows once again why the uk parliament needs constitutional reform , and why these wee conventions , and centuries old traditions that are only respected when it suits doesn't wash. Dont forget pacifico , starmer has form for trying to overturn precedent and norms. Remember it wasn't that long ago he was trying to overturn your vote regarding Brexit post 2016 and was still trying in 2019 behind Corbyn until the public had had enough and smashed his party and voted Johnson in with a landslide. Hoyle has disgraced himself and his position, while starmer once again sits smirking. Mordaunt of the tories and Flynn of the snp are saying it will take convincing that Hoyles position isnt now untenable. |
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Post by thomas on Feb 21, 2024 20:02:25 GMT
Even if Starmer & Sue Grey threatened Hoyle that he'd be ditched if Labour won the election unless he acquiesced, his actions in overturning parliamentary precedent and procedure to please his Party leader are a step too far. Could/should be a resigning matter judging on the information we've heard so far ... an apology is nowhere near enough. fully agree. For his stupidity alone , and being Lilly livered about starmers threats , he should resign. Of course , all the flak is now turning to Hoyle while starmer sits smirking. I hope that labour bar steward gets his comeuppance. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 21, 2024 20:02:29 GMT
Even if Starmer & Sue Grey threatened Hoyle that he'd be ditched if Labour won the election unless he acquiesced, his actions in overturning parliamentary precedent and procedure to please his Party leader are a step too far. Could/should be a resigning matter judging on the information we've heard so far ... an apology is nowhere near enough. It seems from what I listened to a short while ago that Hoyle may have saved his job by apologising to the house. He is currently in a meeting with all party leaders and whips. |
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Post by thomas on Feb 21, 2024 20:09:18 GMT
Even if Starmer & Sue Grey threatened Hoyle that he'd be ditched if Labour won the election unless he acquiesced, his actions in overturning parliamentary precedent and procedure to please his Party leader are a step too far. Could/should be a resigning matter judging on the information we've heard so far ... an apology is nowhere near enough. It seems from what I listened to a short while ago that Hoyle may have saved his job by apologising to the house. He is currently in a meeting with all party leaders and whips. impartiality is a must red. How can Hoyle continue after thats been made public , not just by the twitterati , but by the news night politics editor and people like Peston for example? His motives will be questioned from now on in on every single detail . It's as I said like a football referee found out as being corrupt . As I said starmer will be loving the deflection and breathing a sigh of relief. |
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