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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 19, 2024 9:58:16 GMT
And how about those who die before they reach pension age or those that die in a short while after retiring? Exactly, and now they want to push state pension retirement age to 70. because too many are living too long |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 19, 2024 10:21:23 GMT
a couple of things here. 1. Pensioners don't get back "a fraction" of what they pay in. If that was true it would be a sustainable scheme, but instead it's a ponsi scheme. 2. Pension Credit is for the pensioners with the lowest incomes. Nothing to do with laziness or daytime telly. I was suggesting the benefits paid to the stay at homers should be cut before they even look at pensioners not that they had anything to do with it . Pension credits (as far as I'm aware ) are for those who haven't paid enough contributions and get a reduced pension ,the credits brings them up to or close to the full state pension . Not correct. If you are unemployed you still have your national insurance paid. Pension Credit is paid on your income that you receive as a pensioner and is not based on NI contributions. PCGC will top up your SRP to your basic living needs. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 11:35:08 GMT
Pensioners have paid into the system all their lives and are only getting a fraction of that back . What they have to cut back on is pension credits ,the top ups paid to those that haven't paid in and of course the benefits paid to the lazy feckers who spend their lives watching day time tv . But the basic state pension was what we signed up for which allows most to cut back their working hours or stop altogether if that's what they want to do .Its really nobodies business but theirs So you call them that might of spent.time working. But had to.stop due to illness Or made redundant or couldn't fine gainfull. Employment lazy feckless Typical loony right wing proper gander Plus you missed all other things that I mentioned pensioners might have how convenient for you. Do you know how much NI contribution goes into pensions not 100% maybe very little in fact. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 11:48:13 GMT
You do know that pensioners can also. Work.and pay no NI contributions. Have private pensions or work.pension Also. Have support with fuel bills and cost of living payments. The working man Has well has having inflation like the Elderly might have family to keep a mortgage to.pay . Plus the cost of living expenses. No wonder there so many working family's In poverty We only pay no NI because the dodgy piece of shit in number 10 was foiled in his plot to make us keep on paying it by his move from number 11. While still screwing our ability to pay into a personal pension once any is taken from any such fund ? And do you think we fucking LIKE having to keep on working because Gordon fucking brown fucked over our pension growth by stealing the advance corporation tax relief from our pension funds, thereby breaking the sacred vow that pension fund growth was always untaxed because pension payments ARE Every person who has done a day's work in the last fifteen years has been screwed by that one eyed twat. Did you realise that ? So you got a private pension fund and work.with out paying NI But realiy on state pension at such Increase huge says it all. I ask you the question do you know how much your NI goes to pension. Also you go on your wife has to.work longer before she receives here pension Because they with the pensions being so high people have to. Work longer to.afford it. You definitely got your priorities wrong Has for Gordon Brown do you always call People with psyical disability. Scratch below the service and it shows what a load of crap.right wingers are |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 11:56:50 GMT
Let's start with Starmer leading by example ...
Starmer earned £1 million plus a £700,000 gold-plated pension during his five years as Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP). Sir Keir was a barrister for 20 years. Then, as DPP, he was paid £195,000 a year and the job secured him a pension that, together with his MP's retirement allowance, will give him a publicly funded pot worth about £1 million.LOL.... as usual double standard hypocrite Starmer
**Useless DPP
What do you mean Hypocrite starmer he has nothing to do with my post Also seeing you don't know anything about reality The Chancellor of the exchequer was Going to stop the triple lock last year until there paid voters the grey hair mob protest against it. Are you obsessed with Sir Kier |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 12:01:13 GMT
a couple of things here. 1. Pensioners don't get back "a fraction" of what they pay in. If that was true it would be a sustainable scheme, but instead it's a ponsi scheme. 2. Pension Credit is for the pensioners with the lowest incomes. Nothing to do with laziness or daytime telly. And how about those who die before they reach pension age or those that die in a short while after retiring? The problem is that people are living longer that's why it won't be possible to afford a triple lock increase it isn't Substaianable |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 12:05:27 GMT
a couple of things here. 1. Pensioners don't get back "a fraction" of what they pay in. If that was true it would be a sustainable scheme, but instead it's a ponsi scheme. 2. Pension Credit is for the pensioners with the lowest incomes. Nothing to do with laziness or daytime telly. I was suggesting the benefits paid to the stay at homers should be cut before they even look at pensioners not that they had anything to do with it . Pension credits (as far as I'm aware ) are for those who haven't paid enough contributions and get a reduced pension ,the credits brings them up to or close to the full state pension . Are aware how much unemployment benefits cost the Country compared to state pension. Go and look it up.instead of making such a silly statement |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 19, 2024 12:20:35 GMT
Are you aware how much lower unemployment is now, due to Brexit?
Stop moaning.
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Post by Dogburger on Feb 19, 2024 12:24:49 GMT
I was suggesting the benefits paid to the stay at homers should be cut before they even look at pensioners not that they had anything to do with it . Pension credits (as far as I'm aware ) are for those who haven't paid enough contributions and get a reduced pension ,the credits brings them up to or close to the full state pension . Not correct. If you are unemployed you still have your national insurance paid. Pension Credit is paid on your income that you receive as a pensioner and is not based on NI contributions. PCGC will top up your SRP to your basic living needs. Yes I know , you are agreeing with what I am saying |
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Post by Dogburger on Feb 19, 2024 12:28:25 GMT
I was suggesting the benefits paid to the stay at homers should be cut before they even look at pensioners not that they had anything to do with it . Pension credits (as far as I'm aware ) are for those who haven't paid enough contributions and get a reduced pension ,the credits brings them up to or close to the full state pension . Are aware how much unemployment benefits cost the Country compared to state pension. Go and look it up.instead of making such a silly statement Thats irrelevant , I was just suggesting if you want to save money for the government go and pick on someone else , the pensioners have earned their dues |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 19, 2024 12:32:26 GMT
Are aware how much unemployment benefits cost the Country compared to state pension. Go and look it up.instead of making such a silly statement Thats irrelevant , I was just suggesting if you want to save money for the government go and pick on someone else , the pensioners have earned their dues Easy pickings for Labour, someone has to fund their daydreams. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 19, 2024 12:43:55 GMT
We only pay no NI because the dodgy piece of shit in number 10 was foiled in his plot to make us keep on paying it by his move from number 11. While still screwing our ability to pay into a personal pension once any is taken from any such fund ? And do you think we fucking LIKE having to keep on working because Gordon fucking brown fucked over our pension growth by stealing the advance corporation tax relief from our pension funds, thereby breaking the sacred vow that pension fund growth was always untaxed because pension payments ARE Every person who has done a day's work in the last fifteen years has been screwed by that one eyed twat. Did you realise that ? So you got a private pension fund and work.with out paying NI But realiy on state pension at such Increase huge says it all. I ask you the question do you know how much your NI goes to pension. Also you go on your wife has to.work longer before she receives here pension Because they with the pensions being so high people have to. Work longer to.afford it. You definitely got your priorities wrong Has for Gordon Brown do you always call People with psyical disability. Scratch below the service and it shows what a load of crap.right wingers are Brown was an incompetent prick in denial who raped the future of everyone in work after about 1999. I’ll take no whingeing from you on stating the fact he was too fucking blind to see the damage he did and too fucking arrogant to listen to those explaining itvto him I’ve no idea how much of my NI went i to my state pension all i know is the lying scum screwed me over |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 12:51:40 GMT
So you got a private pension fund and work.with out paying NI But realiy on state pension at such Increase huge says it all. I ask you the question do you know how much your NI goes to pension. Also you go on your wife has to.work longer before she receives here pension Because they with the pensions being so high people have to. Work longer to.afford it. You definitely got your priorities wrong Has for Gordon Brown do you always call People with psyical disability. Scratch below the service and it shows what a load of crap.right wingers are Brown was an incompetent prick in denial who raped the future of everyone in work after about 1999. I’ll take no whingeing from you on stating the fact he was too fucking blind to see the damage he did and too fucking arrogant to listen to those explaining itvto him I’ve no idea how much of my NI went i to my state pension all i know is the lying scum screwed me over Oh so you changed from.calling him a one Eye so and so How very noble of you . Has for not knowing how much goes in your state pension from. Your NI contribution how can you and others say I've worked all my life for my pension |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 13:02:41 GMT
Brown was an incompetent prick in denial who raped the future of everyone in work after about 1999. I’ll take no whingeing from you on stating the fact he was too fucking blind to see the damage he did and too fucking arrogant to listen to those explaining itvto him I’ve no idea how much of my NI went i to my state pension all i know is the lying scum screwed me over Oh so you changed from.calling him a one Eye so and so How very noble of you . I didn't even suggests he was to blind To see what he was doing What a utterly Rediculace statement to make . What I said was do you often call people with a psyical disability Has for not knowing how much goes in your state pension from. Your NI contribution how can you and others say I've worked all my life for my pension |
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Post by Dogburger on Feb 19, 2024 13:02:51 GMT
Brown was an incompetent prick in denial who raped the future of everyone in work after about 1999. I’ll take no whingeing from you on stating the fact he was too fucking blind to see the damage he did and too fucking arrogant to listen to those explaining itvto him I’ve no idea how much of my NI went i to my state pension all i know is the lying scum screwed me over Oh so you changed from.calling him a one Eye so and so How very noble of you . Has for not knowing how much goes in your state pension from. Your NI contribution how can you and others say I've worked all my life for my pension Because we have . If we haven't paid in enough we don't get the full pension . Thats the deal |
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