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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 20, 2024 16:22:28 GMT
It's COV-ID, so many lost jobs, most working yet now on 20-30% less, seems only train drivers getting more  Tongue in cheek yet so many pubs and food places have closed with no replacements, taxi drivers charging more. On a more serious note who is earning more than before COV-ID, I ask, as we keep being told about wage growth inflation?? I am. But only because i changed jobs and now rake in 50k whereas for nearly ten years after the collapse of the sub prime mortgage market survived on £33-£35k. While prices rocketed. |
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 20, 2024 17:35:09 GMT
N9thing to do with either Brexit or denying the recession. |
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 20, 2024 17:43:20 GMT
I point the finger of blame far more at the Bank of England than the government on recession, says Nigel Farage....
He would say that, wouldnt he? He never included the BoE when he touted the benefits of Brexit. The closest he got was a promise of cheaper clothes and shoes. Before he moved his business to Ireland to stay in the EU. While telling you Brexit was the magic word to solve all your problems. Now problems are the fault of something else already there pre-Brexit in reality. Brexit has cost the UK appproximately 5%of its GDP. 5% would keep the UK comfortably out of recession. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 20, 2024 17:48:03 GMT
I point the finger of blame far more at the Bank of England than the government on recession, says Nigel Farage....
He would say that, wouldnt he? He never included the BoE when he touted the benefits of Brexit. The closest he got was a promise of cheaper clothes and shoes. Before he moved his business to Ireland to stay in the EU. While telling you Brexit was the magic word to solve all your problems. Now problems are the fault of something else already there pre-Brexit in reality. Brexit has cost the UK appproximately 5%of its GDP. 5% would keep the UK comfortably out of recession.
You do not understand what recession means. |
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 20, 2024 17:50:47 GMT
I point the finger of blame far more at the Bank of England than the government on recession, says Nigel Farage....
I blame everyone except me.
Anyway, where would the UK be without a recession ?
There are no homes, inflation is at 100% and now that we have eaten each other we will all die of want.
The only question that remains is, if unemployment is so bad, why can't I get some sod to put up my fence ?
But I am sure Vinny said there would be such competition for jobs that wages would explode. Instead people have either been kicked out of the country, not allowed in except under near impossible conditions which dont include fence constructors or took early retirement and/or left the UK where they get more bang for their buck. We shall call it "Vinny's Dream". |
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 20, 2024 17:55:50 GMT
He would say that, wouldnt he? He never included the BoE when he touted the benefits of Brexit. The closest he got was a promise of cheaper clothes and shoes. Before he moved his business to Ireland to stay in the EU. While telling you Brexit was the magic word to solve all your problems. Now problems are the fault of something else already there pre-Brexit in reality. Brexit has cost the UK appproximately 5%of its GDP. 5% would keep the UK comfortably out of recession.
You do not understand what recession means. Excuse me? I most certainly do. I also understand the small parts of an economy that collectivelt add up to a recession, like productivity ans/or interest on national debt, the debt which is nearly 100% of the UK's GDP. www.statista.com/statistics/282841/debt-as-gdp-uk/ |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 20, 2024 17:57:09 GMT
We dodged recession last year, the Eurozone didn't.
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 20, 2024 18:02:32 GMT
It's COV-ID, so many lost jobs, most working yet now on 20-30% less, seems only train drivers getting more Tongue in cheek yet so many pubs and food places have closed with no replacements, taxi drivers charging more. On a more serious note who is earning more than before COV-ID, I ask, as we keep being told about wage growth inflation?? I am. But only because i changed jobs and now rake in 50k whereas for nearly ten years after the collapse of the sub prime mortgage market survived on £33-£35k. While prices rocketed. Should you not be thanking Brexit for that? The blowhard propaganda that never took into account the possibility of a rise in interest rates which, when at near zero, were bound to go up?? |
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 20, 2024 18:08:39 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 20, 2024 18:21:34 GMT
You do not understand what recession means. Excuse me? I most certainly do. I also understand the small parts of an economy that collectivelt add up to a recession, like productivity ans/or interest on national debt, the debt which is nearly 100% of the UK's GDP. www.statista.com/statistics/282841/debt-as-gdp-uk/If the UK economy had grown by another 5% since 2016 (as the report claimed) that doesn't mean we would not still be in recession. |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 20, 2024 18:21:45 GMT
Who cares? The Brussels mafia are another lot who lie and cheat at every opportunity. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 20, 2024 18:37:11 GMT
I am. But only because i changed jobs and now rake in 50k whereas for nearly ten years after the collapse of the sub prime mortgage market survived on £33-£35k. While prices rocketed. Should you not be thanking Brexit for that? The blowhard propaganda that never took into account the possibility of a rise in interest rates which, when at near zero, were bound to go up?? Brexit was not thing until 2015 Prices were ratcheted up, up, up every year. There was not a year that council tax, council car parking, business rates, electricity, gas, you fucking name it did not rise, rise, rise since i started being taxed routinely on my income which would have been 1977 Brexit responsible for that ? Fuck off. Fucking EEC membership caused lots of it |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2024 19:58:30 GMT
Afraid I’m seeing double here,could've sworn I’ve seen a thread like this already.🙄 Well we can be sure of some common recurring themes. Vinny will be telling us that due to the incredible success of Brexit everything is going swimmingly well regardless of what the experts are telling us. Jonksy will be telling us that anything that is not going well is Labour's fault. Or the fault of the loony left. Which he thinks is the same thing. And he will have a wealth of Daily Mail articles at his finger tips to prove it. See2 will be along at some point to remind us all that we are all biased for not agreeing with him. And should anyone try to shoehorn in any criticism of the rich, Pacifico will immediately appear to leap to their defence |
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 20, 2024 22:16:14 GMT
Excuse me? I most certainly do. I also understand the small parts of an economy that collectivelt add up to a recession, like productivity ans/or interest on national debt, the debt which is nearly 100% of the UK's GDP. www.statista.com/statistics/282841/debt-as-gdp-uk/If the UK economy had grown by another 5% since 2016 (as the report claimed) that doesn't mean we would not still be in recession. Dont be silly. In the first place you wouldnt have had to borrow your entire GDP plus interest. Investment in the UK would have been far more attractive. And you wouldnt have wasted tens if millions on customs costs. All elements of GDP. I suggest it is you who cannot see how integrally the UK economy is interlaced with the global economy no matter how "sovereign" you feel. |
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 20, 2024 22:26:15 GMT
Should you not be thanking Brexit for that? The blowhard propaganda that never took into account the possibility of a rise in interest rates which, when at near zero, were bound to go up?? Brexit was not thing until 2015 Prices were ratcheted up, up, up every year. There was not a year that council tax, council car parking, business rates, electricity, gas, you fucking name it did not rise, rise, rise since i started being taxed routinely on my income which would have been 1977 Brexit responsible for that ? Fuck off. Fucking EEC membership caused lots of it The UK was always free to pay what it could for work done. The EEC. Did not set wages. Remember UK workers going to Germany for better wages while Greece paid very little...often because work was done out of sight of the tax authorities. And the promise of Brexit was even higher wages, which in most cases didnt happen, particularly in the pubblic sector controlled by those who sold the idea. The EEC and EU have very little if anything to say about wages and taxation. The only taxations linked to the EU is VAT and that is flexible. I sm afraid you are still not aware of what the EU does and does not involve itself with. Hence you are still gullible to the lies you were told. |
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