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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 15, 2022 11:39:09 GMT
Millions of people, already struggling with the cost of living crisis, are now having to brace themselves for energy prices to increase by a further £900 from April, as government support schemes end. News of the plans come ahead of the chancellor’s Autumn Statement on Thursday, where Jeremy Hunt is expected to announce that the £400 winter handout to help families struggling with energy bills will not be repeated next year. Hunt is busy re-writing Liz Truss’s energy price guarantee, with the £3,000 price cap now £500 higher than the limit promised by the former prime minister and almost three times above the level in April 2020. Along with the energy price hikes, council tax rates could also be hiked in a bid to ease pressures on social care. Hunt is also expected to announce up to £50bn of public spending cuts and tax hikes on Thursday, as the Tories impose a third wave of austerity on the country. Once again, the poorest and most vulnerable will bear the brunt of the cuts, even though they have not caused the crisis. Austerity is not an economic necessity but rather a political choice. Sunak could’ve chosen to raise funds to help people by imposing an effective windfall tax on energy companies who are making record profits, but who have instead avoided paying anything at all thanks to loopholes inserted by the former chancellor. Rather than relying on cuts to reduce the country’s debt, Sunak could also choose to prioritise higher taxes on static assets and bring in a wealth tax. Yet being the Thatcherite he is, he has chosen once more to go down the path of austerity.
Whats your view on the proposed Aurtristy measures and tax hike.
Are they a necessary evil or can the government take other measures like leftfoot forward suggested |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 15, 2022 11:43:19 GMT
A real conservative would have cut the bloated public spending budget rather than raise taxes.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 15, 2022 12:03:37 GMT
In that case do you agree with stopping the support scheme on energy bills.
What including pensionsers.
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Post by dodgydave on Nov 15, 2022 14:39:56 GMT
The poorest didn't cause the crisis? Did the poorest not lockdown, did the poorest not receive furlough, did the poorest not support sanctions?
The COVID lockdowns and Putin's war created all this inflation. All predicted by people who wanted more targeted lockdowns and warned against the sanctions.
Did you support lockdowns? Did you support the sanctions on Russia? Yes and yes, SO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for your actions!!
Your other point is equally stupid, they have already said it will targeted help after April, who the fuck do you think they are going to target if not poorest? lol.
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Post by dodgydave on Nov 15, 2022 14:41:31 GMT
In that case do you agree with stopping the support scheme on energy bills. What including pensionsers. Labour proposals ran till April... so what's your point? They have already said it will be reviewed and probably targeted. I've seen lefties looking for outrage, but crystal balling outrage is a new one on me hahaha. |
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Post by borchester on Nov 15, 2022 15:35:36 GMT
In that case do you agree with stopping the support scheme on energy bills. What including pensionsers. Labour proposals ran till April... so what's your point? They have already said it will be reviewed and probably targeted. I've seen lefties looking for outrage, but crystal balling outrage is a new one on me hahaha. Quite.
Hunt may be a head dick, but even he realises that a lot of Tory support comes from the pensioners. And I was reading in the i that special provisions are being made for the Cottontop army. So it looks as though Berkeley will see us straight.
Amazingly, the gap between the Tory and Labour party appears to be shrinking. Admittedly it is a bloody big gap (21%), but still less than before. And Starmer does not appear to have pulled any rabbits out of the hat recently, so maybe, just maybe, the Tories are still in the game.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 15, 2022 15:47:47 GMT
The lefty loons won't be able to keep their gobs shut as they near the GE. Plenty of time to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Post by borchester on Nov 15, 2022 15:55:09 GMT
The lefty loons won't be able to keep their gobs shut as they near the GE. Plenty of time to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
True.
Starmer is very, very slowly building the slightly left of centre party that he hopes will get him into Number Ten, but it is a racing certainty that before he gets the key in the door some of his party neanderthals will do something arse numbingly stupid and bugger everything up.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 15, 2022 16:25:16 GMT
Labour will rely on even more identity politics , platitudes, telling us how horrid Tories are and fence sitting to win the next GE.
They couldn’t win a raffle . The Tories will have to fuck up.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 15, 2022 22:01:17 GMT
In that case do you agree with stopping the support scheme on energy bills. What including pensionsers. Of course - from the start I have said it should be targeted at those that need it. There was a letter in yesterdays Telegraph from a householder who had had the £400 handout, who was most appreciative but somewhat bemused as £400 was more than his electric bill.. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 15, 2022 22:04:16 GMT
The lefty loons won't be able to keep their gobs shut as they near the GE. Plenty of time to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. But why would anyone vote Tory now? - they are to all intents and purposes New Labour. |
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Post by Toreador on Nov 15, 2022 22:13:14 GMT
In that case do you agree with stopping the support scheme on energy bills. What including pensionsers. Of course - from the start I have said it should be targeted at those that need it. There was a letter in yesterdays Telegraph from a householder who had had the £400 handout, who was most appreciative but somewhat bemused as £400 was more than his electric bill.. It's well shy of the cost of 500 litres of oil I had delivered a couple of weeks ago. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 15, 2022 22:13:21 GMT
In that case do you agree with stopping the support scheme on energy bills. What including pensionsers. Of course - from the start I have said it should be targeted at those that need it. There was a letter in yesterdays Telegraph from a householder who had had the £400 handout, who was most appreciative but somewhat bemused as £400 was more than his electric bill.. Has far has I understand it the £400 is in monthly instalments the first one being £69 |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 15, 2022 22:16:09 GMT
Of course - from the start I have said it should be targeted at those that need it. There was a letter in yesterdays Telegraph from a householder who had had the £400 handout, who was most appreciative but somewhat bemused as £400 was more than his electric bill.. Has far has I understand it the £400 is in monthly instalments the first one being £69 Well you can break it down into a tenner a week and it still comes out higher than the guys electric bill. Why anyone would think that a valid use of taxpayers money escapes me. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 15, 2022 22:39:04 GMT
The lefty loons won't be able to keep their gobs shut as they near the GE. Plenty of time to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. But why would anyone vote Tory now? - they are to all intents and purposes New Labour.
Wait until the Marxist old guard start running off at the mouth. Then voting for "Not Labour" will become the default option.
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