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Post by jonksy on Feb 13, 2024 13:22:49 GMT
What has any of that got to do with this thread? Constituents in Rochdale will look at their ballot paper and see Azhar Ali named as the Labour candidate, but he isn't the Labour candidate and if elected will not be a Labour MP. I doubt that Rochdale has a particularly high Jewish population, so Azhar Ali will still be able to get in. And then the party will be able to find someone more discreet before the General ElectionLOL good luck with one....Labour are all tarred with the same brush... |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 13, 2024 13:37:35 GMT
What has any of that got to do with this thread? Constituents in Rochdale will look at their ballot paper and see Azhar Ali named as the Labour candidate, but he isn't the Labour candidate and if elected will not be a Labour MP. I doubt that Rochdale has a particularly high Jewish population, so Azhar Ali will still be able to get in. And then the party will be able to find someone more discreet before the General Election Well yes of course, and if elected he will be an independent MP. Not a Labour MP as indicated on the ballot. I suspect Labour are already looking for a suitable Muslim candidate for the general election. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 13, 2024 13:44:26 GMT
What has any of that got to do with this thread? Constituents in Rochdale will look at their ballot paper and see Azhar Ali named as the Labour candidate, but he isn't the Labour candidate and if elected will not be a Labour MP. I doubt that Rochdale has a particularly high Jewish population, so Azhar Ali will still be able to get in. And then the party will be able to find someone more discreet before the General Election Would it be outrageous for a British white candidate to stand in Rochdale, it amazes me that white communities must do the box ticking and have Muslim candidates as a option in most predominantly white constituencies , yet in Muslim communities it would be almost unthinkable to have white British representing them, does any one else think that is racist? |
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Post by dappy on Feb 13, 2024 13:51:29 GMT
The previous MP whose death sparked the by election has white skin and as far as I know was not of muslim faith. The MP for the constituency with the largest percentage muslim has white skin and as far as I know is not of muslim faith.
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 13, 2024 13:59:58 GMT
The previous MP whose death sparked the by election has white skin and as far as I know was not of muslim faith. The MP for the constituency with the largest percentage muslim has white skin and as far as I know is not of muslim faith. next. I'll rephrase it then, since the death of Tony Lloyd 'Labour' are determined his replacement will be the box ticking usual virtue signalling woke crap, because Starmer knows he needs to please the Muslim communities because they have threatened not to vote for Labour if they don't support a Gaza ceasefire ..... there that better. |
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Post by dappy on Feb 13, 2024 14:18:25 GMT
Ali has been a senior councillor on Lancashire County Council for a number of years and a losing Labour candidate at General Elections previously. On paper he seems a credible candidate. Are you suggesting like Steppenwolf that he should be banned from standing as an MP because he is of muslim faith?
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 13, 2024 14:23:11 GMT
Ali has been a senior councillor on Lancashire County Council for a number of years and a losing Labour candidate at General Elections previously. On paper he seems a credible candidate. Are you suggesting like Steppenwolf that he should be banned from standing as an MP because he is of muslim faith? No I'm suggesting if he's a racist then he should be banned from standing, or does racism only count when it's being directed at Blacks and Muslims? |
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Post by dappy on Feb 13, 2024 14:35:25 GMT
1) No one is banned from standing because they are racist.
2) I understand the accusation against this guy is that he used anti-semitic language (from what has been reported I think that is a little dubious but there may be more that I am unaware of)
3) At the time of being selected as a candidate, those comments were not known
4) When they became known, he was dropped by Labour
5) Due to election law, he cannot be dropped from the ballot paper whatever the wishes of Labour or indeed Mr Ali himself.
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 13, 2024 14:38:16 GMT
1) No one is banned from standing because they are racist.2) I understand the accusation against this guy is that he used anti-semitic language (from what has been reported I think that is a little dubious but there may be more that I am unaware of) 3) At the time of being selected as a candidate, those comments were not known 4) When they became known, he was dropped by Labour 5) Due to election law, he cannot be dropped from the ballot paper whatever the wishes of Labour or indeed Mr Ali himself. Next. True, Corbyn got elected, and the Labour party are full of racists. |
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Post by dappy on Feb 13, 2024 14:41:17 GMT
The level of post I would perhaps expect.
Ho hum.
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 13, 2024 14:43:20 GMT
The level of post I would perhaps expect. Ho hum. The truth? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 13, 2024 15:08:19 GMT
Have to say DD, I don't think that questioning how the extremely talented intelligence services from a country constantly on guard with very good sources embedded in the Palestinian community and in neighbouring countries (eg Egypt) intelligence services could possibly have missed an attack on this scale... Don't be daft, dappy. No intelligence service is infallible and besides I'm sure that Hamas had help from more capable operators. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 13, 2024 15:15:28 GMT
...Surely though it only becomes anti semitic if your logic is that jewish people and politicians are more likely than people and politicians of other faith to make such a brutal calculation... Sadly, that's apparently not a great leap for many on the left. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 13, 2024 15:18:56 GMT
Any MP is theoretically elected as a person not a party representative and hence there is of course nothing to stop any MP choosing to change party or sit as an independent at any time. Being independent is actually not rare - indeed there are currently 18 (three more than LDs). One MP has sat in two different parties and as an independent in this parliament alone. What has any of that got to do with this thread? Constituents in Rochdale will look at their ballot paper and see Azhar Ali named as the Labour candidate, but he isn't the Labour candidate and if elected will not be a Labour MP. Doesn't matter, he'll have to do it all again by the end of the year. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 13, 2024 15:39:52 GMT
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