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Nov 15, 2022 16:29:29 GMT
Post by Fairsociety on Nov 15, 2022 16:29:29 GMT
Well you should know, you're simply the best lol  I know, people tell me they like my stories, but I don't pretend they are real 😇  Not quite as 5 star as %I was hoping😅 5* prices
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Asylum
Nov 15, 2022 16:30:26 GMT
Post by Dan Dare on Nov 15, 2022 16:30:26 GMT
Yes, there's something very odd going on. It's not difficult to imagine a behind-the-scenes discussion between officials:
"Now this bloke Faisal who arrived this morning. He's told us he was in Warsaw for almost a month before taking a coach along with 50 others to Dunkirk where he stayed in a hotel for two weeks before catching his dinghy to Folkestone. For my money he's a Section 16 non-admissible on account of connections to a safe country, since he had plenty of opportunity to claim asylum in either Poland or France."
"I hear you but let's think it through. If you declare him inadmissible that means we've got to put him in detention and make out a deportation order and al the other bloody bumf. Once the do-gooders and lawyers get wind of it they'll make our lives a misery, we'll have to go to court and all that palaver"
"Yeah, you're right. Let's just register his asylum claim and let the system deal with him in its own good time. I'll put him down for the next hotel shuttle then he's off our hands."
"Next!"
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Asylum
Nov 15, 2022 16:44:18 GMT
Post by Orac on Nov 15, 2022 16:44:18 GMT
Dan, yes i see.
A good system doesn't allow officials to offload their procedural headaches onto the wallets of the public. The government should really be ironing this out, not offloading it onto the taxpayer.
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Asylum
Nov 15, 2022 16:46:56 GMT
Post by Orac on Nov 15, 2022 16:46:56 GMT
A good deal for the landlords. You can expect regular tenants to be turfed out in favor of government backed 'asylum seeker' tenants who, through the magic of government, can pay five years rent up front and cover any damages without questions asked. |
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Asylum
Nov 15, 2022 16:49:38 GMT
Post by zanygame on Nov 15, 2022 16:49:38 GMT
Yes, there's something very odd going on. It's not difficult to imagine a behind-the-scenes discussion between officials: "Now this bloke Faisal who arrived this morning. He's told us he was in Warsaw for almost a month before taking a coach along with 50 others to Dunkirk where he stayed in a hotel for two weeks before catching his dinghy to Folkestone. For my money he's a Section 16 non-admissible on account of connections to a safe country, since he had plenty of opportunity to claim asylum in either Poland or France." "I hear you but let's think it through. If you declare him inadmissible that means we've got to put him in detention and make out a deportation order and al the other bloody bumf. Once the do-gooders and lawyers get wind of it they'll make our lives a misery, we'll have to go to court and all that palaver" "Yeah, you're right. Let's just register his asylum claim and let the system deal with him in its own good time. I'll put him down for the next hotel shuttle then he's off our hands." "Next!" Could be. Or equally something else. "This bloke says he's from Albania" "Albania you say, but there's no danger in Albania" "I know but we're real short of low paid labour since Brexit, so I was wondering if we just push him through" "Better yet, lets stick him in a Hotel and let him abscond, the local B&B gets there pot washer and we get no bloody paperwork" |
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Asylum
Nov 15, 2022 16:52:11 GMT
Post by zanygame on Nov 15, 2022 16:52:11 GMT
A good deal for the landlords. You can expect regular tenants to be turfed out in favor of government backed 'asylum seeker' tenants who, through the magic of government, can pay five years rent up front and cover any damages without questions asked. As I said earlier, a good deal for the government too. All that money promised as foreign aid, fed back into the UK economy to help ailing hotels. Winner winner chicken dinner. |
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Asylum
Nov 15, 2022 16:52:59 GMT
Post by Dan Dare on Nov 15, 2022 16:52:59 GMT
Yes that could be another popular wangle too.
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Asylum
Nov 15, 2022 16:59:03 GMT
Post by Orac on Nov 15, 2022 16:59:03 GMT
All that money promised as foreign aid, fed back into the UK economy to help ailing hotels. Winner winner chicken dinner. As far as i know this is not coming out of the foreign aid budget - this is a separate, and now significant, budget. There is an idea though - perhaps the countries producing asylum seekers should foot any costs and, if unwilling, then deductions made from their foreign aid? I have other ideas as well - when the Americans supported our war efforts, the support was provided in the form of a loan. |
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Asylum
Nov 15, 2022 17:03:05 GMT
Post by Fairsociety on Nov 15, 2022 17:03:05 GMT
A good deal for the landlords. You can expect regular tenants to be turfed out in favor of government backed 'asylum seeker' tenants who, through the magic of government, can pay five years rent up front and cover any damages without questions asked. This hotel can cost up to £300 per night, apparently the government are paying 'three times' the going rate to house asylum seekers, which would mean the Hilton are getting £900 per night in a luxury spa hotel with swimming pool, ... utterly crazy. |
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Asylum
Nov 15, 2022 17:03:10 GMT
Post by Steve on Nov 15, 2022 17:03:10 GMT
So with no way of claiming asylum without passing through "safe countries", what you are effectively saying Steve, is that you want Britain, the fifth richest country in the world, to opt completely out of providing asylum to people in need. Even leaving aside the international implications of acting in this way, what a sad scared little country we have become. Except I didn't say that at all did I My comment was clearly aimed at those who choose asylum tourism and illegal action as their route to a better life. As others have posted we do make asylum commitments to specific situation (eg Ukraine) where the migrants concerned are genuinely in fear and it would be unfair to expect bordering countries to take the whole burden. |
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Asylum
Nov 15, 2022 17:03:34 GMT
Post by zanygame on Nov 15, 2022 17:03:34 GMT
All that money promised as foreign aid, fed back into the UK economy to help ailing hotels. Winner winner chicken dinner. As far as i know this is not coming out of the foreign aid budget - this is a separate, and now significant, budget. There is an idea though - perhaps the countries producing asylum seekers should foot any costs and, if unwilling, then deductions made from their foreign aid? I have other ideas as well - when the Americans supported our war efforts, the support was provided in the form of a loan. Ah, my error. I thought someone said it was funded from foreign aid. |
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Asylum
Nov 15, 2022 17:08:43 GMT
Post by Fairsociety on Nov 15, 2022 17:08:43 GMT
As far as i know this is not coming out of the foreign aid budget - this is a separate, and now significant, budget. There is an idea though - perhaps the countries producing asylum seekers should foot any costs and, if unwilling, then deductions made from their foreign aid? I have other ideas as well - when the Americans supported our war efforts, the support was provided in the form of a loan. Ah, my error. I thought someone said it was funded from foreign aid. The Hilton chain of Hotels aren't 'ailing', they thrive. |
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Nov 15, 2022 17:12:54 GMT
Post by zanygame on Nov 15, 2022 17:12:54 GMT
Ah, my error. I thought someone said it was funded from foreign aid. The Hilton chain of Hotels aren't 'ailing', they thrive. Fully booked I heard 😅 |
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Asylum
Nov 15, 2022 17:13:01 GMT
Post by Steve on Nov 15, 2022 17:13:01 GMT
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Asylum
Nov 15, 2022 17:16:59 GMT
Post by Fairsociety on Nov 15, 2022 17:16:59 GMT
It's a fuckin luxury hotel <editted>, no asylum seekers should be there <editted>, it's because of <editted> like you that this is allowed to happen, deadheads who think it's fine to use luxury hotels to house illegal migrants mainly Albanian young men, at the cost to the tax payer, <editted>. |
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